GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #111

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Whereas Rule, a former cop, sat beside Bundy at the suicide crisis line and was fooled by his mask. To the extent that she still had doubts of his guilt when she was corresponding with him in prison.

I think Ramsland wants to write the next The Stranger Beside Me. She's got to be nearing retirement; this is her only shot. She's going to take it.

MOO

she might be having somewhat of an Ann Rule moment, I doubt that they ever had a relationship where the confided and shared in all the ways they experienced over years. is it enough for a book?
mOO
 
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she might be having somewhat of an Ann Rule moment, I doubt that they ever had a relationship where the confided and shared in all the ways that experienced over years. is it enough for a book?
mOO
I think she's written at least ten. Trust me, she can make a book from it.

MOO
 
  • #803
Yes! I didn’t think of his hair looking lighter when it’s shorter. (I have the same color hair, but I’ve never had it that short!)

I’m sure you’ll be tickled to know, @INfisherman (if you don’t already) that BK, too, was once a “healthy blonde-haired boy with blue eyes,” so
I think you’re onto something.

Sources:

Bryan Kohberger’s chilling posts as a teen reveal how he felt ‘no emotion and little remorse’

Idaho Murders Suspect Felt ‘No Emotion’ and ‘Little Remorse’ as a Teen
I’m more tickled he made several mistakes which eventually led to his arrest & admission of guilt. 😉

The hair color thing didn’t strike me until I read some posts mentioning treatments then I looked closer at the up close photos of him from last week’s plea change hearing. Once I saw the new haircut, likely faded on the sides with a clipper, I figured the barber likely used the same clippers on the Brybrows as well, as they have been mowed down to almost nothing.

I get a faded haircut & when fresh, it can appear lighter when it’s really the hair being less dense.
 
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iamshadow21, urfunny21...
I used to write fanfiction, I had a friend who did too, but who also wrote original novels. Wonderful haunting works of fabulism.

He had an icon he used all the time that read, "He's a writer, he's probably going to put you in a book."

Ramsland can and absolutely will mine this for a book. It's what writers do. Trust me.

MOO
 
  • #806
Add me to the list of people who say BK has not had his hair colored. He just got a tight crew cut and some maintenance on the Brybrows (which would have grown back by the time trial started.) It was also kinda bright in the courtroom. moo
 
  • #807
I used to write fanfiction, I had a friend who did too, but who also wrote original novels. Wonderful haunting works of fabulism.

He had an icon he used all the time that read, "He's a writer, he's probably going to put you in a book."

Ramsland can and absolutely will mine this for a book. It's what writers do. Trust me.

MOO
I am writer , lol.
 
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Whereas Rule, a former cop, sat beside Bundy at the suicide crisis line and was fooled by his mask. To the extent that she still had doubts of his guilt when she was corresponding with him in prison.

I think Ramsland wants to write the next The Stranger Beside Me. She's got to be nearing retirement; this is her only shot. She's going to take it.

MOO
Ramsland has already had a bestseller with The Vampire Companion. Since then, she has published 73 books and over 2,500 articles, reviews and short stories. She has also been an executive producer for "Murder House Flip" and "BTK: Confession of a Serial Killer."

I don't think she needs to write another book to be more famous or to make more money. I think she will pursue whatever opportunity she might get to interview BK, and write a book about him, because the study of serial killers has been the main focus of her career, and also she clearly feels a need to know why someone who presented so well as an undergraduate in her own experience went so terribly wrong.
 
  • #810
I'm still getting over the fact that SteveP is old enough to remember Wooly Willy. I've always pictured him as a handsome, brilliant fellow around 30.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. There is a reason that a pic of my Boxer, Vino, is up there instead of a pic of me. He was far more handsome. I am about a month away from turning 70. But my ego thanks you!
 
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I'm still getting over the fact that SteveP is old enough to remember Wooly Willy. I've always pictured him as a handsome, brilliant fellow around 30.

I’ll bet that @SteveP is still handsome and brilliant, even though he’s outed us oldsters.

I remember playing with Wooly Willy, but it annoys me when a commercial product misspells something. “Wiskers” instead of “Whiskers.”

Now get off my lawn. 😀

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  • #812
Dr. Katherine Ramsland is an accomplished, distinguished professor. She's written 68 books and 1,500 articles over the years. Knowing how hard she's worked to reach this point in her career, I guarantee she won't do anything to jeopardize or tarnish that. Katherine Ramsland, M.A., M.F.A., Ph.D. | DeSales University
 
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I’ll bet that @SteveP is still handsome and brilliant, even though he’s outed us oldsters.

I remember playing with Wooly Willy, but it annoys me when a commercial product misspells something. “Wiskers” instead of “Whiskers.”

Now get off my lawn. 😀

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My YOUNGER sister had a Wooly Willy.
 
  • #814
While pondering how life in prison would be for BK, it struck me that he has hit the "researchers jackpot".

Think of all the interviews he can conduct with other violent offenders. He can quiz them on their emotions, motives, feelings while committing the ultimate crime, etc.

He won't need to write a book about "his crime." He will publish research studies about the deviant mind and how those convicted individuals commit the ultimate crime and its long-term effects on them. He may even work for prison reform and rehabilitation. This could lead to his doctoral thesis.

I don't trust BK.....One or more of the families involved will probably need to file a civil case against BK and perhaps his family. As part of the verdict in the civil case would be the most realistic method to stop BK publishing anything related to his crimes.

I haven't looked into it, but some states ban inmates from publishing anything or cooperating with authors. A quick Google seems to say that it is on a case-by-case basis in Idaho and up to the director of the prison.

Of course, Judges can also put such things into the sentencing.

He is allowed to have visitors but they must be preapproved and pass a background check. Visits are scheduled solely at the discretion of the prison management. So, Ramsland would have to go to Boise (closest place to stay to Kuba, where the prison is) and get one hour at a time in supervised visits. Probably no more than once a week. Everything he said would be heard by guards.

But I surely am curious as to how this is handled by Judge H, and then by IMSI.

For prisoners on the strictest security regimen, they of course can only communicate via prison phones (I assume they have those security windows between them, but they cannot be in the same room as the visitor or touch them).

It will be interesting to try and follow this aspect of the case, for sure. I doubt that Dr R will make her visitation plans (if approved) public. If she publishes in non-academic presses, she may not actually state her research protocols and how many hours she actually spent with him. She doesn't say in her book about Rader, just that she ceased making visits.

When she wrote the book about Rader, she found prison visits to be "non-productive" and therefore corresponded by mail and by phone with him. I suspect that the presence of guards made it so that she couldn't get the information she wanted. She also relied on many other sources besides Rader himself (including the work of another researcher) and of course, Rader notoriously made a detailed confession. At any rate, she made her first contact with him via writing a letter. BK will be allowed to send and receive letters. Ramsland published a lot of the letters she received from Rader verbatim. That would be very interesting in the case of BK.

It's true that a civil case might stop him from "co-authoring" the book. But I'd very much like to see Judge H put something in place in the upcoming sentencing. Ramsland of course did not credit Rader as a "co-author," but instead calls the book his "confessions."

JMO
 
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong. There is a reason that a pic of my Boxer, Vino, is up there instead of a pic of me. I am about a month away from turning 70. But my ego thanks you!
We are of the same generation. I'm a tiny bit ahead of you. But we can both be 30 and fabulous in my imagination.
 
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I'm wondering if this had gone to trial, would BK have been allowed to alter his appearance by shaving/making his eyebrows less noticeable, as well as possibly dying his hair somewhat lighter.

Since his very bushy eyebrows were one very obvious and important reason that the survivors identified him, and did the Door Dash driver identify him by his Bushy eyebrows ? So during a trial, don't you think the jury would need to see him, in person, still having those very bushy eyebrows ? I don't think he would haven been allowed to alter that very identifiable item, since they were such an important piece of physical evidence, as well as lightening his hair, did the lighter hair make him look less menacing ?
 
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I'm wondering if this had gone to trial, would BK have been allowed to alter his appearance by shaving/making his eyebrows less noticeable, as well as possibly dying his hair somewhat lighter.

Since his very bushy eyebrows were one very obvious and important reason that the survivors identified him, and did the Door Dash driver identify him by his Bushy eyebrows ? So during a trial, don't you think the jury would need to see him, in person, still having those very bushy eyebrows ? I don't think he would haven been allowed to alter that very identifiable item, since they were such an important piece of physical evidence, as well as lightening his hair, did the lighter hair make him look less menacing ?
Had this case gone to trial, and had BK appeared with a shaved head and no eyebrows at all, the jury still would have known what he looked like a mere six hours after murdering Kaylee, Maddie, Xana, and Ethan. I am sure that the state would have had that ghoulish selfie that he took that morning blown up to poster size, and it would have been prominently displayed for the jury's benefit. JMO
 
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Add me to the list of people who say BK has not had his hair colored. He just got a tight crew cut and some maintenance on the Brybrows (which would have grown back by the time trial started.) It was also kinda bright in the courtroom. moo
The brybrows look bleached to me... Mia Goff style ha

Doubt the lock up barber has a bottle of peroxide though. There's a stark brow difference imo so he's consciously done something to alter their appearance. Maybe bic'd them to the stumps. I hardly doubt he's built enough cred inside for the barber to give him any extras on top (think Mangiones stylish taper fade and eyebrow threading prior to his first appearance) beside the typical cut given.

Scrawny creep looks like he's crawled off the trailer of 28yrs later
 
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I agree. Much like Steven Parent, who was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and became the first victim when Charles Manson's followers killed Sharon Tate, Jay Sebring, and others.
bless you for remembering the unfamous victims of Manson. I feel immense sadness and outrage for all the victims, but some don't get mentioned as much.
 
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Dr. Katherine Ramsland is an accomplished, distinguished professor. She's written 68 books and 1,500 articles over the years. Knowing how hard she's worked to reach this point in her career, I guarantee she won't do anything to jeopardize or tarnish that. Katherine Ramsland, M.A., M.F.A., Ph.D. | DeSales University
I am curious about this. Has there ever been a book written or a crime series from the perspective of a criminal psychologist unknowingly actively involved with a serial killer before and after the murders? She has a unique perspective in that she was his instructor prior to the murders and could very well be the one he reaches out to now that he's caught, pled guilty and going to serve time. This could be the crown jewel of her career, sad to say but it's all there for it to happen. I suspect she has something in the works. All JMO
 
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