GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[Warwick7]

WhaT?! Can someone please explain Hippler saying: Although defendant waives his right to appeal, this does NOT mean he cannot appeal??

I had the same question!!

 

[MassGuy]

Right to appeal??

Yes. He’s limited but there are certain avenues.

 

[Gemmie]

Link to today's hearing scheduled for 10:30 a.m. (local time) Thursday, July 17:

 

[Warwick7]

Yes. He’s limited but there are certain avenues.

I thought part of the Plea bargain was there is NO appeals...

 

[NyxNY]

Yes. He’s limited but there are certain avenues.

I'm sure @Warwick7 and I are not the only ones surprised by this. The families are NOT going to be happy when they hear that. Now I want to hear from the state now more than ever.

 

[Megnut]

I thought part of the Plea bargain was there is NO appeals...

He just said the waiver doesn't remove the right.

Yikes.

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

@BrianEntin


Kohberger judge just said people should not expect documents to come out quickly -- even with gag order over.He has to decide what to unseal. And unseal things after reviewing.And may not unseal things before appeal period is up.


12:53 PM · Jul 17, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945889692186001699

Ok here's the sad part. I watched the hearing today. Hippler says BK has a right to appeal. That is NOT what Chapman's understood:

Ethan Chapin's Parents React to Bryan Kohberger's Guilty Plea | Court TV Video Ethan Chapin's Parents React to Bryan Kohberger's Guilty Plea

 

[Missyrocks5]

I hope that we have an appellate attorney from Idaho who can clarify this. I saw an attorney on TV that we all know saying that there is, perhaps, the possibility that he could raise ineffective assistance of counsel between now and sentencing to appeal. Sounds like they need to be sure they dot every I and cross every T between now and the sentencing is vital. Therefore, I think the judge made the prudent decision because what is the sense of blowing it all up over waiting just another six days? I think after sentencing, he cannot appeal.

But I would like to hear from an appellate attorney, the difference between keeping the record sealed until after sentencing versus not, and more importantly, does he still have the right to appeal anything that happened up until his sentencing? That doesn't seem to make sense. In other words, once we get to sentencing next week, at that point, aren't all of his appellate options off the table?

Anyone questioning that this plea deal wasn't a good maneuver just needs to look at what's happening with this right now. Anne Taylor is one hell of an attorney and you can only imagine how many tricks she had up her sleeve by the time four months of a trial went by.

 

[Warwick7]

He just said the waiver doesn't remove the right.

Yikes.

JMO

Exactly, not cool. Look what Chapan's said the other day...

Ethan Chapin's Parents React to Bryan Kohberger's Guilty Plea | Court TV Video Ethan Chapin's Parents React to Bryan Kohberger's Guilty Plea

 

[CLGM]

In light of the gag order being lifted, any thoughts about where the first new reporting will come from? Are there news outlets with pieces ready to go?

 

[Megnut]

I'm sure @Warwick7 and I are not the only ones surprised by this. The families are NOT going to be happy when they hear that. Now I want to hear from the state now more than ever.

Maybe it is just a procedural appeal to review the waiver. Make sure the plea was free of coercion.

I hope this is nothing but a technical stamp of approval.

JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945887781319762378

 

[arielilane]

Breaking: The #Idaho4 judge has vacated the court's gag order in the case, over objections from defense for #BryanKohberger. Prosecutors withdrew their prior request to maintain the order through sentencing on July 23. From
@alex_brizee. More coming.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945894368323461350

 

[Melsworld]

He just said the waiver doesn't remove the right.

Yikes.

JMO

What does this mean?

 

[Megnut]

What does this mean?

I. Don't. Know.

I sure hope that the wording didn't come as a surprise to the victims. I hope they've had someone explaining every step of the legal process to them.

I hope it means the opposite of how it sounds.

JMO

 

[Melsworld]

I. Don't. Know.

I sure hope that the wording didn't come as a surprise to the victims. I hope they've had someone explaining every step of the legal process to them.

I hope it means the opposite of how it sounds.

JMO

That would be terrible. I hope we are misunderstanding.

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945889692186001699

 

[Seattle1]

I think there's a Statutory period to unseal, and the Judge just called it the 'appeal period,' although BK has no appellate right per his plea agreement.

 

[INfisherman]

From what I am reading via a Google search, an appeal might be allowed under the following circumstances:

• Ineffective assistance of counsel
• Lack of knowing & voluntary plea (coerced into plea agreement)
• Violation of plea agreement

Not a lawyer but I feel those chances of occurring, if applicable to ID law, are slim to none. I wouldn’t worry too much. JH is likely being wise & safe for the time being.

MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Bryan Kohberger watches from jail as judge reveals gag order decision

After Bryan Kohberger pleaded guilty, a media coalition - including Daily Mail - argued the need to protect his right to a fair trial is 'moot.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

7/17/25

As well as the request to lift the gag order, the media coalition has also filed a separate motion asking Judge Hippler to unseal all records in the case arguing that Kohberger’s change of plea means ‘there is no reason for this case to remain cloaked in secrecy.’

The judge said he was 'denying outright' that request, calling it 'premature.'

Instead, he said that, after sentencing, the court will begin the process to review all the records in the case to determine what can be unsealed and what should remain sealed.

He said he expects to release unsealed documents in groups at a time, starting from newest to oldest.

'That process is going to take time - I'm not talking days, I'm probably not talking weeks... patience will be required,' he said.

Judge Hippler said information like birth dates, social security information about minors and victims and 'information that would be essentially inappropriate to unseal, including protection of individuals from undue harassment' would need to remain sealed.