GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[browneyes]

YES the judge

That’s what I thought. Loved it.

 

[MeadowMuffin]

He's angry now. She got to him.

Good.

Sorry, I am 20+ pages behind. But had to jump ahead to say that she isn't a Handmaiden, (his ideal,barefoot and pregnant) she is fire! NOT his ideal woman at all and I bow to her. She's a Queen.

 

[NoeticSoul]

I hope that lady has a support structure in place. She needs a serious intervention.

She needs a lobotomy and a deep study of her brain function. moo

 

[cottonweaver]

so he regularly used VPNs too.

 

[joe jones]

The prosecutor could easily have made this a condition of the plea deal and they chose not to.

Then. he may not. have pled guilty, we won't ever know what was discussed as part of the negotiations unless either side chooses to talk and if a NDA is not in place

 

[NoeticSoul]

so he regularly used VPNs too.

Yeah he was Soooooooo clever lol

 

[joe jones]

so he regularly used VPNs too.

Doesn't everybody, I know I do, as there is lots of US websites I can't access without one, plus I hide my internet ID for security purposes

 

[cottonweaver]

Yeah he was Soooooooo clever lol

Am assuming tons of rape _ _ _ _ and dark web stuff as well as cyber stalking of potential victims across both universities

as a criminology student he wouldn't need to use a VPN to look at serial killer crimes etc

 

[MTW2011]

The prosecutor could easily have made this a condition of the plea deal and they chose not to.

Right. Thompson leaned heavily into the “there’s no provision under law where we can require that” which while technically true does not mean they cannot try to include it in a plea agreement. They could’ve tried to include that BK hey no tablet & TV in prison, sure there’s technically no basis in law for them to bring that into a plea agreement, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t try to require it.

The parties were making a deal, a literal agreement where each side could’ve specified things they wanted or did not want. I imagine for some of the families who didn’t agree with the plea deal that they may have felt that the state did not even try to include him needing to give up more details as part of the plea and that’s what stings. It felt like they were wrapping up something so quickly and in a way that was not going to get them answers to their questions [and certainly by some of their media interviews they have said they wanted more answers].

Of course we don’t know for sure if the state did not try to include anything like that in the agreement, but if you take just Thompson saying they “can’t” require that under the law, it seems pretty likely to me that they did not try to push for any of that. Then you add Thompson’s statements about BK probably never telling the truth… JMOO

 

[browneyes]

Per AP:

"His mother quietly wept at times as the victims’ parents described their grief. She sobbed briefly when Maddie Mogen’s grandmother said her heart goes out to the other victims’ families, as well as to Kohberger’s family"

Maddie’s grandmother and Xana’s uncle mentioning the Kohberger family as victims was very respectful and touching.

 

[arielilane]

@newsfromkerri


Heading home. Good to hear everyone’s statements today, especially what the judge said.

City of Moscow website will have docs and more news releases this afternoon.

 

[justtrish]

I'm honestly surprised that he is not Papa Rogers.

I do then wonder if Pappa Rogers was LE and if it was, I doubt they would ever disclose that. Maybe someone trying to draw out the killer. Once BK was arrested then PR didn't need to post any more.

 

[DianaWW]

the highest Court in Idaho, the Supreme Court, has already held that their state laws dictate that "...victim impact evidence from the victim's non-immediate family and friends was inadmissible because non-victims presented the evidence".

This stemmed originally from an appeal of a case Taylor worked on. I believe she knows well that the Supreme Court has already ruled who is entitled (under the law) to give victim impact evidence and statements, and today I think we saw several statements given by what they would say are "non-victims".

Is that right? In my opinion they should've been able to speak, but this loophole, if you want to call it that, has helped get some defendants new trials or new sentencing. And if anyone will try to exploit such a loophole on an appeal, I could see it being him. And he certainly has decisions from the highest court that would help holster such a claim. JMOO.
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Do you have a link to the source of the screenshot please? I’d be interested in reading more.

 

[Dexter12]

SG said Kaylee was stabbed more than 30 times per CNN

 

[NoeticSoul]

To me, the fact that BK chose not to speak at all during sentencing only solidifies in my mind, that he had no reason but to feel what it was like to murder, did not care one bit what he did, how he did it, or who it impacted... he had not even one emotion on his nasty face surface during this sentencing but for possibly boredom and then loathing when Alivea told him Caylee would have kicked his Fn a$$, had she not been asleep.... smh moo

ebm (sp)

 

[browneyes]

SG said Kaylee was stabbed more than 30 times per CNN

She probably put up a heck of a fight, as did Xana.

 

[cottonweaver]

Q about Loserberg's background history
A from LE - ' we can't go into his younger years, that's under seal' , we mainly focussed on later education in criminology wrt how he prepared.
BT chips in to add that ' there's no evidence of significant criminal history, history of violence or predisposition to do these crimes... no evidence that he was a serial killer in waiting'

( Having read one of the recent books, we just heard he had a history of trespass & theft. ( J Saba's mom & the Bayliss guy who believes that BK stole from his house & later stalked the house but cops didn't solve. Connie Saba never reported it due to compassion for BK's family wrt heroin addiction etc)

ETA
re 'a serial killer in waiting'
Every experienced profiler & SK academic I've heard have always said that they thought that BK would've become an SK had he got away with this

 

[Sundog]

The only time I thought that BK showed any significant change in appearance was when the judge spoke at the end of the victim impact statements at sentencing. For whatever reason, I think it was harder for BK to hear the judge's remarks than it was to hear the remarks of the victims' family members directed toward him.

 

[Inthedetails]

Q about Loserberg's background history
A from LE - ' we can't go into his younger years, that's under seal' , we mainly focussed on later education in criminology wrt how he prepared.
BT chips in to add that ' there's no evidence of significant criminal history, history of violence or predisposition to do these crimes... no evidence that he was a serial killer in waiting'

( Having read one of the recent books, we just heard he had a history of trespass & theft. ( J Saba's mom & the Bayliss guy who believes that BK stole from his house & later stalked the house but cops didn't solve)

I'm thinking he had been slithering into the Moscow house before the murder night.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

The only time I thought that BK showed any significant change in appearance was when the judge spoke at the end of the victim impact statements at sentencing. For whatever reason, I think it was harder for BK to hear the judge's remarks than it was to hear the remarks of the victims' family members directed toward him.

I wonder if he was concentrating on tuning out the victim statements but then had to start paying attention to the judge.

jmo