GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[whiterhino]

I can't see her bothering to put shoes on just to pick up a food order. It's not like they leave your order at the sidewalk, so you'd have to walk across the driveway... They put your order right at your front door, usually as close to it as they can. All she'd have to do is open the door and grab it, all without even needing to step outside. So shoes not necessary IMO.

jmo Doc Martens are not the shoe of choice for throwing something on to run an errand but that's just me.

Maybe someone took them off and tossed them but they didn't land together? Or the boots were together and someone stumbled over them, causing one to end up where it was found?

 

[Megnut]

32m

 

[gremlin444]

Maybe she was still wearing both of them inside and one of them flew off in her desperate race to escape.

Lots of young girls wouldn't bother to lace them up if they were just putting them on to meet a delivery.

Problem is....she was murdered immediately afterwards....and was not wearing any pants when she was found.

IMHO, she wasn't traipsing outside or around the house in a sweatshirt, thong underwear, and Doc Martens.

Also IMHO, the shoes are a red herring. Esp when there are much simpler explanations, IMO.

 

[LinasK]

You cannot be sure of his Motive, as you cannot know whether he had any personal interaction, or any specific incidents or verbal conversations , or otherwise, with any one or more of the victims. None of us knows that,
I’m not saying the knife had anything to do with his conviction, but the prosecution could want to retrieve it, if they knew where it was .

I am sure.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960976135988093370

 

[Twistinginthewind]

It was below freezing at 4 am on the night of their murders, 28 degrees:

Pullman, WA Weather History | Weather Underground

IMO, anyone in the house even if well heated would keep their shoes, socks, or slippers on, and anyone answering the door or stepping outside would also be well shod.

So it makes sense to me that clomping up and down the stairs was heard that night and the stray shoe/boot was where it was in the living room having been recently taken off from being outside/going to the door/keeping their feet warm.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960880520683749446

"Now,
as the case is prepared to be unsealed,
both the State and defense in Kohberger's trial
objected to witness names, addresses and contact information being revealed
with concerns of
'unwarranted invasion of personal privacy'.

'Although Defendant has now pled guilty and been sentenced for the crimes,
the parties note that the case remains subject to intense media scrutiny,'
court documents stated.

'Consequently,
the parties anticipate that revealing the identities of the witnesses will constitute
an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy'.

The motion noted that witnesses who had already been identified had been subject to
'harassment, threats, stalking and other concerning behaviors by the public and media'."

 

[Dotta]

" 'Based on how he talks to women and treats women,
people in the department thought he was a possible future rapist',
the Idaho State Police report says,
though no one suspected him of committing the Moscow murders.

'Kohberger was interested in the emotions of what it felt like when committing a crime',
the police report said the student told investigators,
adding that the student said Kohberger
'discussed how offenders might avoid getting caught'
and about
'different emotions violent offenders might have'.
The student said she logged a number of complaints to faculty after the conversations."

Bryan Kohberger's Professor Warned He'd 'Stalk and Sexually Abuse' People — and Then He Killed 4 Students

A new report released by police shows fellow students and faculty were concerned about Kohberger's sexist and creepy behavior prior to the 2022 murders

people.com

 

[Warwick7]

As for Xana upstairs, did she see BK? With all of Maddies twinkle lights on you can see in the bedroom, true. But, you can't see the bed from the door. My take from this is, he was standing at the end of the bed, in the doorway, and she caught sight of him.

It could be the blood drops in the doorway to Maddie’s room were because he heard someone coming up the stairs and was stood in the doorway when she came up. She then saw him and yelled and he chased her.

 

[squareandrabbet]

I don't believe the DDD was carrying the bag around, or was she? I think she was walking around trying to locate the house, and then would take the food out of the insulated hot bag to the porch once she found the address. That's how I'd do it. I wouldn't be carrying the order around when I had no idea where I was delivering it to.

Good question.

I don't think it's a guarantee that every DDD bothers running around with an insulated hot bag though.

The best ones would; but living in Manhattan, I find it's catch as catch can whether or not they do; and whether the food arrives piping hot or a sort of lukewarm.

 

[Tillyjames]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960976135988093370

They had a conversation about knife sheaths and collecting knives? Jesus.

 

[squareandrabbet]

It was below freezing at 4 am on the night of their murders, 28 degrees:

Pullman, WA Weather History | Weather Underground

IMO, anyone in the house even if well heated would keep their shoes, socks, or slippers on, and anyone answering the door or stepping outside would also be well shod.

So it makes sense to me that clomping up and down the stairs was heard that night and the stray shoe/boot was where it was in the living room having been recently taken off from being outside/going to the door/keeping their feet warm.

I agree, and was thinking it (the donning of boots) all depends upon how Xana felt about having cold feet as well; and isn't so much dependent upon whether or not she was assembling what outside eyes would see as a coherent complete outfit.

 

[Warwick7]

Problem is....she was murdered immediately afterwards....and was not wearing any pants when she was found.

IMHO, she wasn't traipsing outside or around the house in a sweatshirt, thong underwear, and Doc Martens.

Also IMHO, the shoes are a red herring. Esp when there are much simpler explanations, IMO.

Yes a red herring. It comes down to occam's razor. Ah yes....the simplest explanation is usually the most likely the right explanation.

 

[Megnut]

The question for me is, if DM heard Doc Martens on the stairs and they were on KG or XK's feet, how did the felon manage not to make a sound, including as he came down the steps hurriedly (he would have heard DM call out to Kaylee)? We KNOW he went up, we know he came down, probably quickly.

DM calls out to Kaylee. Meanwhile XK is awake, maybe hears DM and the same sounds from upstairs, and turns toward the stairs and answers DM, "there's someone here" and in moments the felon tears down the stairs and overtakes XK outside her door. It's okay, I'm here to help. She cries, whimpers outside the bathroom door as he attempts to gain control of her.

Both KG and XK were in their pajamas so, while it could have been one of them on the stairs, I think the simplest explanation is that it was the felon, and he didn't put great care into being silent at that point.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Wow, what an emotional, unimaginable, senseless crime. Perpetrated by this murderer hiding in the shadows. We know he drove past the 1122 King St. on 23 occasions from August until the murders. This wasn't just a random act on random people, it was a well thought out, timed and planned event. Thank goodness he wasn't smart enough to pull it off perfectly.

I believe he specifically targeted these young women in that house, who represented everything he hated about women in general and his own pathetic life. Ethan just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. He followed one, two or maybe all of them on social media at some point where they all had a large, open online presence. Maybe even before he actually arrived at WSU.

I think his main target was Kaylee (destroying her very identity - facial features left almost unrecognizable ). He committed the act that night because he had to. Kaylee was back in town for essentially the last long weekend before graduation, which he would have known by following her SM accounts.

I also think it's likely that he actually was behind the Papa Rodgers account, no proof, JMO. Even if LE couldn't/didn't definitively link him to it, he was well versed enough in computer technology to erase the digital trail. We know through the documents released that he used software to do that.

He made the Plea deal because he knew the State had a rock solid winning case. He was beaten after all the Motions and rulings against the Defense in the last hearings. He wasn't sorry or remorseful, he didn't care about his family, it was simply a matter of self preservation.

I hope prison serves him exactly the Karma he deserves.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

@BrianEntin


Judge says she will decide at a later date how to handle what Bryan Kohberger crime scene photos/videos can be released. Hearing just ended. No official decision.A temporary restraining order prohibiting images from inside victims bedrooms remains.


2:12 PM · Aug 28, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1961129814372270332

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960842142697582771

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1961131693982847136

 

[Megnut]

@BrianEntin


Judge says she will decide at a later date how to handle what Bryan Kohberger crime scene photos/videos can be released. Hearing just ended. No official decision.A temporary restraining order prohibiting images from inside victims bedrooms remains.


2:12 PM · Aug 28, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1961129814372270332

What does this mean for already released photographs? The ones already in circulation. Contempt of court? Civil liability? No way to put the internet genie back in the bottle.

As much as I/we want to understand what happened, it's sad that families have this added task of toiling to keep sensitive evidence sealed.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

Wow, what an emotional, unimaginable, senseless crime. Perpetrated by this murderer hiding in the shadows. We know he drove past the 1122 King St. on 23 occasions from August until the murders. This wasn't just a random act on random people, it was a well thought out, timed and planned event. Thank goodness he wasn't smart enough to pull it off perfectly.

I believe he specifically targeted these young women in that house, who represented everything he hated about women in general and his own pathetic life. Ethan just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. He followed one, two or maybe all of them on social media at some point where they all had a large, open online presence. Maybe even before he actually arrived at WSU.

I think his main target was Kaylee (destroying her very identity - facial features left almost unrecognizable ). He committed the act that night because he had to. Kaylee was back in town for essentially the last long weekend before graduation, which he would have known by following her SM accounts.

I also think it's likely that he actually was behind the Papa Rodgers account, no proof, JMO. Even if LE couldn't/didn't definitively link him to it, he was well versed enough in computer technology to erase the digital trail. We know through the documents released that he used software to do that.

He made the Plea deal because he knew the State had a rock solid winning case. He was beaten after all the Motions and rulings against the Defense in the last hearings. He wasn't sorry or remorseful, he didn't care about his family, it was simply a matter of self preservation.

I hope prison serves him exactly the Karma he deserves.

JMO

As the reports are emerging...

I'm beginning to think
that the attack was "one & only".

It seemed to be the perp's "special project" to experience emotions felt by murderers.
His curiosity & obsession + the survey.
(He suffers from OCD)

There are 2 clues:
- talks with others about such emotions
(link above sent by me)
- his opinion voiced during a class that the murders would not be repeated by a perp.
(During discussion about the murders at University)

Both clues were reported by MSM and the links were sent by me to the threads.

JMO