GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[Ghostwheel]

thank you! I figured that's what people were seeing ... I don't see a dog but I understand from documents that he was actually there

The hanging sleeve is over one of his eyes and his nose is just right and down. Once you see the nose, the rest comes into focus.

 

[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

Exactly! You are thinking about this how I am. He could well have gone there without arousing suspicion. Until he can be definitively ruled out as being across the country, I have to believe he was capable of doing this. Seems far more likely than a copy-cat multiple killer in the PNW.

Yes, and not just the unlikely idea of a copy cat in the PNW. It would be the unlikely idea of a copy cat in Moscow-Pullman! As a WSU alum I've heard people express surprise that both of those towns are homes to major state universities, being as smallish as they are. (But therein lies the charm.)

I stated that I wished I could see some type of undeniable confirmation that put BK far away from Pullman on that particular night in October 2021, but I'm thinking maybe I'd rather see it confirmed that he was present. That way the intended 2021 victim and the others in the home would know that the same boogey man will never, never come back to look them up.

 

[SophieRose]

Law&Crime police bodycam video investigating knife attack in Pullman WA in Oct 2021

33K views · 238 reactions | Bodycam: Bryan Kohberger Investigated for Home Invasion Before Murders | Law&Crime

Bodycam: Bryan Kohberger Investigated for Home Invasion Before Murders.

www.facebook.com

 

[LeahBee]

I appreciate the appreciation regarding the summaries I've been working on.
I'll finish the rest tomorrow - I've been up for 33 hours and I'm forgetting how words work

 

[Dotta]

"Idaho Victim's Father ​

Wants Bryan Kohberger's Commissary Money Confiscated.​

Goncalves revealed he has spoken with Idaho legislators about proposing a law
that would use the commissary money from convicted murderers
to reimburse the costs of investigating their crimes.

Throughout the duration of the case,
Kohberger received various donations from fans to his commissary account.

However,
these amounts seem negligible compared to the funds Idaho State spent on the case.

By April 2024,
the state had reportedly spent over $3.6 million prosecuting the murders,
with costs likely significantly higher by the time Kohberger chose to accept a plea deal."

Idaho Victim's Father Wants Bryan Kohberger's Commissary Money Confiscated And Used For Firing Squad

A father of one of the slain University of Idaho students is calling for a harsher form of justice for Bryan Kohberger.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Chloegirl]

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.the-independent.com

“Turning off your phone isn’t enough,” Heather said. “You have to disable Wi-Fi, disable cellular, then power down. And that’s what he did.”

They discovered that in the days right before and right after the murders, Kohberger disabled WiFi access on his devices and routed his traffic through NordVPN, a tool designed to anonymize online activity.

While the act is not criminal, it is abnormal, Jared noted.

“He was diligent in prep and cleanup and he made our job really hard,” Jared said. “This is someone who tried really hard to not be detected.”

Something I've wondered since the PCA was released...it's clear that he understood enough that he needed to switch off his phone during the murders. That his phone could place him at the scene.

WHY did he bring the phone with him at all? Why not just leave it at home? Give himself some form of possible alibi by showing he was "home the entire time"?

Did he need the phone for GPS purposes to get there and back? For as many times he was documented driving by the house, it seems like he should've known the drive by heart.

Did he need some kind of "pump up playlist" to get himself worked up on the drive?

Did he want to snap photos?

I don't buy that he was just sloppy. Why bring the phone at all?

PHOTOS! He thinks he's a crime scene investigator. JMOO

 

[NottaYutz]

Yes, and thanks for the welcome. I've actually been reading on here for a long time but haven't posted, just liked posts. You are all so amazing on here, I'm so impressed!

Welcome to the fray!

 

[Chloegirl]

But he was home in PA at that time. Why would he be phoning and texting them if he was home?

WT#? This is fantastic, he has nerve endings and was worried when the jig was up. Wowza. JMOO

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.the-independent.com

 

[Dotta]

PHOTOS! He thinks he's a crime scene investigator. JMOO

Did he have time to snap photos though?
Were any photos,
or traces of deleted photos found on his phone?

I think
he took the phone "just in case".
For whatever emergency.

JMO

 

[LetsSolvIt]

PHOTOS! He thinks he's a crime scene investigator. JMOO

Oh, my gosh. This is stunning information (Independent article).

Wonder what he and Mommy talked about over extensive periods every single day — just wonder if it would give us or LE insight. My musings only.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Tealgrove said:
But he was home in PA at that time. Why would he be phoning and texting them if he was home?

He may have been at “home” in PA, but were his parents at work or some daily activity? Was he texting and calling them everytime they left the house, like he was so anxious he couldn’t tolerate being alone?

Only Throwing out some ideas.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

But he was home in PA at that time. Why would he be phoning and texting them if he was home?

Dunno, reaĺly, but guessing maybe, his generation does that, their communications can be preferrable at a distance, on the electronic and somewhat anonymous internet/SM, IME.

Over 10 years ago, when I was visiting a family member who had a child in her teens/20s, and her daughter in the middle of a family visit she had bowed out from apparently, texted her mom from her bedroom down the hall, that she was hungry, and said "mom, bring me some food, I don't want to deal with you all, it's not my thing...."

And another time, when sitting right across a table from a young woman I worked with, and she could have just talked to me, she texted me instead about a work related situation & I was just floored.... and didn't understand why she wouldn't want to talk to me face to face, but she had her reasons, it turned out.

JME/JMO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.the-independent.com

“Turning off your phone isn’t enough,” Heather said. “You have to disable Wi-Fi, disable cellular, then power down. And that’s what he did.”

They discovered that in the days right before and right after the murders, Kohberger disabled WiFi access on his devices and routed his traffic through NordVPN, a tool designed to anonymize online activity.

While the act is not criminal, it is abnormal, Jared noted.

“He was diligent in prep and cleanup and he made our job really hard,” Jared said. “This is someone who tried really hard to not be detected.”

Something I've wondered since the PCA was released...it's clear that he understood enough that he needed to switch off his phone during the murders. That his phone could place him at the scene.

WHY did he bring the phone with him at all? Why not just leave it at home? Give himself some form of possible alibi by showing he was "home the entire time"?

Did he need the phone for GPS purposes to get there and back? For as many times he was documented driving by the house, it seems like he should've known the drive by heart.

Did he need some kind of "pump up playlist" to get himself worked up on the drive?

Did he want to snap photos?

I don't buy that he was just sloppy. Why bring the phone at all?

I think he knew he needed his phone for GPS tracking, getting there, leaving there, for all of the travels he did that night, to orient himself, especially on the dark backroads between the place in Moscow where he committed their murders, and his apartment in Pullman.

LE had his movements between those places very early on (in the PCA mapped out), and IIRC they thought he couldn't have traveled hither and yon, even with his "stargazing" history thereabouts, without a GPS system on his cellphone telling him which way to go.

JMO

 

[gremlin444]

Some schools have what they call Early Acceptance/Early Decision. It means that you are accepted in the Fall for the following year and you have to commit to your decision by like January of that year I believe. So like for example hypothetically, the person would receive an Early Acceptance admission in Oct. 2025 for admission for Fall 2026 academic year, and they would have to decide to commit to that school by January of 2026- filling that slot.

PhD programs have different acceptance dates and schedules than even MA programs at WSU.

It does not appear, from my searches, that WSU criminal justice PhD has an early acceptance that would let a student know as early as Oct whether or not they are accepted for fall of the next year.

Doctor of Philosophy in Criminal Justice and Criminology | The Graduate School | Washington State University

gradschool.wsu.edu

 

[LadyL]

Really good read about Kohberger’s efforts to thwart investigators:

“Forensic analysis revealed that Kohberger’s phone had only four periods of total inactivity, dating back to June 2022. One of those silent moments occurred on the night of the murders.

He didn’t just lose signal or run out of battery,” Jared explained. “This was an actual button press, power off, on purpose, and then a power back two hours later. And in the middle of that, four people were killed.”

To determine exactly what happened during that two-hour window on the night of the murders, the Cellebrite team re-created the digital environment and studied call logs.

“Turning off your phone isn’t enough,” Heather said. “You have to disable Wi-Fi, disable cellular, then power down. And that’s what he did.”

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.independent.co.uk

so is anyone else thinking about what he was doing the other three periods of inactivity?

 

[LadyL]

It has always been, and likely forever will be, a mystery as to how Kohberger came to choose that house, and those victims.

The experts who analyzed his phone however, did find a tantalizing clue.

“Madison Mogen and Xana Kernodle worked at local restaurant The Mad Greek as servers before Kohberger murdered them.

After the killings, a fellow employee said they remembered Kohberger visiting it twice and eating vegan pizza.

So one WiFi log caught Heather’s attention when she was searching his digital footprint: the network name for The Mad Greek. Though nothing concrete tied him to the location at the time of the murders, the WiFi log suggested he had been there before, possibly more than once.

“There it was,” Heather confirmed. “His device had passively logged that network.”

so many of us knew that didn't we?

 

[LadyL]

If academic research, no need to scrub.

He scrubbed.

He was doing his own research for his own reasons.

And his reasons were all bad.

JMO

it amazes me that criminals bother to delete anything when experts always seem to find it anyway
and why wouldn't he do his research on a burner phone then throw it away like the knife?

 

[gremlin444]

I'm not putting much weight one way or another on his phone having registered The Mad Greek's wifi without knowing the duration for a few reasons:

1) There was outdoor seating for the Mad Greek as well as neighboring businesses out front. Chances are good that the Mad Greek's wifi was set up to reach those seats out front. I've been in situations like that where I was seated outside at one restaurant, and my phone connected to the wifi for the restaurant next door. According to google, there is/was a taphouse+kitchen on one side of Mad Greek and a cafe on the other, which all appear to have outdoor seating.

2) There is street parking available in front of the Mad Greek. Ditto for wifi meant to reach outdoor seating to also being reached from a car parked in front...with a person who may or may not have been going to that business or one on the other side of the street.

All things that the defense would have said. And trust me, I believe BK is guilty 100%. But I'm not hung up one way or another on him having to have actually gone into or bought food from the Mad Greek. There's outdoor tables, Maddie and Xana would have been going out to serve customers there. Easy enough to catch sight of one of them if you were at any business nearby.

 

[LadyL]

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.the-independent.com

“Turning off your phone isn’t enough,” Heather said. “You have to disable Wi-Fi, disable cellular, then power down. And that’s what he did.”

They discovered that in the days right before and right after the murders, Kohberger disabled WiFi access on his devices and routed his traffic through NordVPN, a tool designed to anonymize online activity.

While the act is not criminal, it is abnormal, Jared noted.

“He was diligent in prep and cleanup and he made our job really hard,” Jared said. “This is someone who tried really hard to not be detected.”

Something I've wondered since the PCA was released...it's clear that he understood enough that he needed to switch off his phone during the murders. That his phone could place him at the scene.

WHY did he bring the phone with him at all? Why not just leave it at home? Give himself some form of possible alibi by showing he was "home the entire time"?

Did he need the phone for GPS purposes to get there and back? For as many times he was documented driving by the house, it seems like he should've known the drive by heart.

Did he need some kind of "pump up playlist" to get himself worked up on the drive?

Did he want to snap photos?

I don't buy that he was just sloppy. Why bring the phone at all?

maybe he just had too much confidence in his ability to wipe the phone and too little appreciation of what experts could recover despite his best efforts

 

[Warwick7]

I am a bit confused about why he was calling his mother and father the day before his arrest. Wasn't he at home? I thought the FBI and state police were watching him?

Also interesting that he was searching "psychopath" on Dec. 29. Does that mean he wondered if he was one? I'm so glad they caught this guy, as I definitely think he could have become a sk.
JMO.

I'm thinking his parents were at work.