GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[LinasK]

I hear you on this.

Mostly I want to feel convinced that the person who reportedly entered a bedroom in Pullman in October 2021 with a knife was not BK, so as not to buy into something far-fetched. In terms of height and race, the physical description of that earlier intruder was wildly off. Someone in the neighborhood was suspected. And BK was tucked into his bed across the country in PA (or roaming the house) at the time, one presumes.

BUT. Witness descriptions can be super, or they can be inaccurate to the point that they fall somewhere between being unhelpful and being unintentionally misleading. IMO

Being awakened perhaps seconds before the earlier 2021 encounter....feeling sudden shock and alarm, and maybe dealing with poor lighting---that 2021 victim's description might not have been on the money.

Dylan had circumstances not greatly unlike those to contend with but she was at least standing upright for her sighting, where it might be easier to judge height against one's own, and she may have been awake a little longer.

The same weekend this 2021 home invasion incident took place in Pullman, WSU's Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology hosted their event for prospective and incoming students. That is curious.

No, there is no record of BK having attended that event, but he could have known about it. Idle googling provides no end of information, as we know. Far-fetched, but he could have even cyber-stalked that intended 2021 victim. He didn't register at the event but that doesn't mean he wasn't in Pullman.

He could have told his parents that he needed to fly to WA at that particular time for reasons relating to his future. There's this event, Mom and Dad. His parents might not have required proof of attendance to believe that he attended sessions. A trip would have been expensive, but for a son trying to have a future after winning struggles with issues like weight and drug addiction? Pull out all the stops, we'll find a way.

I wish I could see some type of undeniable confirmation that puts BK far away from Pullman on that particular night in October 2021.

Exactly! You are thinking about this how I am. He could well have gone there without arousing suspicion. Until he can be definitively ruled out as being across the country, I have to believe he was capable of doing this. Seems far more likely than a copy-cat multiple killer in the PNW.

 

[ilgirl]

Yes, and thanks for the welcome. I've actually been reading on here for a long time but haven't posted, just liked posts. You are all so amazing on here, I'm so impressed!

 

[Inthedetails]

Exactly! You are thinking about this how I am. He could well have gone there without arousing suspicion. Until he can be definitively ruled out as being across the country, I have to believe he was capable of doing this. Seems far more likely than a copy-cat multiple killer in the PNW.

When was he accepted into the program at University of Washington? October seems early for that, as acceptances usually happen late winter/spring.

But I suppose an argument could be made he visited before being accepted and without telling anyone at the University.

jmo

 

[Dotta]

Dec 29 was a Thursday and I think both parents worked for the schools so they likely were not at work? IDK

It's a strange detail.

jmopinion

As FAIK parents are retired.

 

[Inthedetails]

As FAIK parents are retired.

I didn't realize that. Thank you!


jmo

 

[Dotta]

I didn't realize that. Thank you!


jmo

Here:

Bryan Kohberger’s Parents and Sisters: Where Are They Now?

Bryan Kohberger was arrested as the primary suspect in the brutal killings of four University of Idaho students in November 2022. The case drew nationwide attention due to its shocking nature and his background in criminology. Since his arrest, the spotlight has also fallen on his family. His...

moviedelic.com

 

[SteveP]

And this is interesting:

"On December 29, a day before his arrest, Kohberger began calling and texting his parents obsessively, just as he had on the morning of the murders. If his mom didn’t answer, he’d call his dad, they said.

That same day, Kohberger searched terms like 'paranoid' 'psychopath' and 'wiretapping.'

'It was obviously weighing on him,' Heather noted."

I'm following the link posted by MassGuy above, but will post it again as it might get lost in the convo and people will want to read it:

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.the-independent.com

He was staying at the family home. Was he constantly calling and texting from the basement to avoid having to go upstairs and speak to them face to face?? Did he think if he stayed in the basement, LE would never think to look there for him?? What a weird...

 

[SteveP]

Yes, and thanks for the welcome. I've actually been reading on here for a long time but haven't posted, just liked posts. You are all so amazing on here, I'm so impressed!

Welcome to WS! Glad to have you join us!

 

[Tealgrove]

And this is interesting:

"On December 29, a day before his arrest, Kohberger began calling and texting his parents obsessively, just as he had on the morning of the murders. If his mom didn’t answer, he’d call his dad, they said.

That same day, Kohberger searched terms like 'paranoid' 'psychopath' and 'wiretapping.'

'It was obviously weighing on him,' Heather noted."

I'm following the link posted by MassGuy above, but will post it again as it might get lost in the convo and people will want to read it:

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.the-independent.com

But he was home in PA at that time. Why would he be phoning and texting them if he was home?

 

[Inthedetails]

But he was home in PA at that time. Why would he be phoning and texting them if he was home?

That's what we're wondering!

jmo

 

[Tealgrove]

That's what we're wondering!

jmo

So weird.

 

[LinasK]

When was he accepted into the program at University of Washington? October seems early for that, as acceptances usually happen late winter/spring.

But I suppose an argument could be made he visited before being accepted and without telling anyone at the University.

jmo

Some schools have what they call Early Acceptance/Early Decision. It means that you are accepted in the Fall for the following year and you have to commit to your decision by like January of that year I believe. So like for example hypothetically, the person would receive an Early Acceptance admission in Oct. 2025 for admission for Fall 2026 academic year, and they would have to decide to commit to that school by January of 2026- filling that slot.

 

[Inthedetails]

Some schools have what they call Early Acceptance/Early Decision. It means that you are accepted in the Fall for the following year and you have to commit to your decision by like January of that year I believe. So like for example hypothetically, the person would receive an Early Acceptance admission in Oct. 2025 for admission for Fall 2026 academic year, and they would have to decide to commit to that school by January of 2026- filling that slot.

Does the University of Washington have Early Acceptance/Early Decision for their PhD program? idk

jmopinion

 

[LinasK]

Does the University of Washington have Early Acceptance/Early Decision for their PhD program? idk

jmopinion

I don't know. Wasn't a school my daughter applied to. I can ask my neighbor if I see them. Actually, it's WSU- Washington State that's relevant, not UW. (Other side of the state- UW is in Seattle)

 

[LadyL]

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he's in Kaylee's room under the desk on the floor in front of the chair. Murphy is right at the wheels. Murphy is a blonde color.

thank you! I figured that's what people were seeing ... I don't see a dog but I understand from documents that he was actually there

 

[Inthedetails]

I don't know. Wasn't a school my daughter applied to. I can ask my neighbor if I see them. Actually, it's WSU- Washington State that's relevant, not UW. (Other side of the state- UW is in Seattle)

Ack! Thanks for that correction about the school name!

 

[Dotta]

That's what we're wondering!

jmo

Prosaic reason.
Parents may have been out doing weekly shopping.

Maybe he called them asking to buy him something?
Or checking on them In a paranoid fashion?

Didn't he google
terms like “paranoid”, “psychopath” and “wiretapping" that same day?

He was unravelling IMO.

JMO

 

[Ghostwheel]

Really great article.

I wonder what the other 3 phone "periods of inactivity" were about. Practice runs? Actual attempts that he backed away from for some reason? I guess we'll never know.

Interesting that his family members were listed as "Mother", "Father", and "Sister" in his phone contacts. Weirdly formal.

Maybe not so much. If you end up in an accident with just your phone and no id, and an incoming call comes in from any of those three, someone can answer and find out who you are. JMO, since I have D listed as Name -daughter and S listed as Name - son.

 

[Ghostwheel]

But he was home in PA at that time. Why would he be phoning and texting them if he was home?

Calling/texting from the basement bedroom to upstairs? Did it say he was out of the house? Or they were out of the house? I didn't see it.

 

[Vaderman]

Expert who was to testify at Kohberger trial says ‘he prepared’ for Idaho murders

Before the DNA, before the arrest, before his name was ever made public, Bryan Kohberger was already preparing to kill. Two digital forensics experts tell Andrea Cavallier what they discovered by digging through his phone

www.the-independent.com

“Turning off your phone isn’t enough,” Heather said. “You have to disable Wi-Fi, disable cellular, then power down. And that’s what he did.”

They discovered that in the days right before and right after the murders, Kohberger disabled WiFi access on his devices and routed his traffic through NordVPN, a tool designed to anonymize online activity.

While the act is not criminal, it is abnormal, Jared noted.

“He was diligent in prep and cleanup and he made our job really hard,” Jared said. “This is someone who tried really hard to not be detected.”

Something I've wondered since the PCA was released...it's clear that he understood enough that he needed to switch off his phone during the murders. That his phone could place him at the scene.

WHY did he bring the phone with him at all? Why not just leave it at home? Give himself some form of possible alibi by showing he was "home the entire time"?

Did he need the phone for GPS purposes to get there and back? For as many times he was documented driving by the house, it seems like he should've known the drive by heart.

Did he need some kind of "pump up playlist" to get himself worked up on the drive?

Did he want to snap photos?

I don't buy that he was just sloppy. Why bring the phone at all?