GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[MassGuy]

Couple interesting tidbits.

Minutes after reading about the search for a Hyundai Elantra, Kohberger began searching for car detailing shops, and searching for used cars.

They only have these searches because he was arrested before he was able to wipe his devices again.

If you haven’t read about Wayne Nance, “To Kill and Kill again: The Terrifying True Story of Montana’s Baby Faced Serial Sex Murderer,” is a great read.

I don’t know why they haven’t made a movie out of it yet, as the ending he met is worthy of any Hollywood movie.

Bryan Kohberger Grew Increasingly Paranoid in the Hours Before His Arrest, Started Searching for Used Cars (Exclusive)

The digital forensics team tasked with examining the cell phone and hard drive of Bryan Kohberger revealed what the cnvicted killers was searching for and downloading the day before his arrest.

people.com

Wayne Nance - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[pittsburghgirl]

MOO Sheath left on the bedding.

Of course yes, maybe Xana's distraction caused him to leave it behind. But IMO its the exertion of subduing Kaylee's that cause him to lose track of it in the bedding. So MOO then the two women one fighting and one fleeing and then fighting put into motion his leaving evidence that led to his capture.

Two women in a bed and at least one fighting back ruined his fantasy of a sleeping victim. Xana being awake to investigate what was happening upstairs further ruined the fantasy. And the one sleeping/passed out victim was a male. That explains some of his rage at Ethan.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Re the wine

It was during a department outing, right?
So,
a social occasion.

I noticed many introverts help themselves with alcohol during parties
to help them relax, shed inhibitions and socialize.

JMO

He is a former addict drinking a whole bottle of wine as a first-year grad student at a college event, when most people (not addicts, not killers) are trying to make the best possible Impression on faculty.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Re the wine

It was during a department outing, right?
So,
a social occasion.

I noticed many introverts help themselves with alcohol during parties
to help them relax, shed inhibitions and socialize.

JMO

He is a former addict drinking a whole bottle of wine as a first-year grad student at a college event, when most people (not addicts, not killers) are trying to make the best possible Impression on faculty.

 

[cottonweaver]

dbm

 

[cottonweaver]

dbm

 

[cottonweaver]

Couple interesting tidbits.

Minutes after reading about the search for a Hyundai Elantra, Kohberger began searching for car detailing shops, and searching for used cars.

They only have these searches because he was arrested before he was able to wipe his devices again.

If you haven’t read about Wayne Nance, “To Kill and Kill again: The Terrifying True Story of Montana’s Baby Faced Serial Sex Murderer,” is a great read.

I don’t know why they haven’t made a movie out of it yet, as the ending he met is worthy of any Hollywood movie.

Bryan Kohberger Grew Increasingly Paranoid in the Hours Before His Arrest, Started Searching for Used Cars (Exclusive)

The digital forensics team tasked with examining the cell phone and hard drive of Bryan Kohberger revealed what the cnvicted killers was searching for and downloading the day before his arrest.

people.com

Wayne Nance - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

View attachment 608825View attachment 608826View attachment 608827View attachment 608828

I've never heard of Nance but yes that's horror/psychological movie material for sure.

Boss and his wife
By the time he's downloading that he's finally got the termination letter from WSU. This is100% baseless speculation but could he have been considering revenge against a WSU staffer & their spouse, if he wasn't caught?

Or is it just the woman, the prowling and unrequited obsession that got BK's interest? Also Nance was a runner! ( final sentences of your screenshot)


BTW The Cellebrite couple in the Levy interview also said he was v interested in a link named SK Timelines. They didn't give the URL & there are a few out there
Here's a possibility, by Radford Univ

Serial Killer Timelines

 

[cottonweaver]

Couple interesting tidbits.

Minutes after reading about the search for a Hyundai Elantra, Kohberger began searching for car detailing shops, and searching for used cars.

They only have these searches because he was arrested before he was able to wipe his devices again.

If you haven’t read about Wayne Nance, “To Kill and Kill again: The Terrifying True Story of Montana’s Baby Faced Serial Sex Murderer,” is a great read.

I don’t know why they haven’t made a movie out of it yet, as the ending he met is worthy of any Hollywood movie.

Bryan Kohberger Grew Increasingly Paranoid in the Hours Before His Arrest, Started Searching for Used Cars (Exclusive)

The digital forensics team tasked with examining the cell phone and hard drive of Bryan Kohberger revealed what the cnvicted killers was searching for and downloading the day before his arrest.

people.com

Wayne Nance - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

View attachment 608825View attachment 608826View attachment 608827View attachment 608828

I've never heard of Nance but yes that's horror/psychological movie material for sure.

Boss and his wife
By the time he's downloading that he's finally got the termination letter from WSU. This is100% baseless speculation but could he have been considering revenge against a WSU staffer & their spouse, if he wasn't caught?

Or is it just the woman, the prowling and unrequited obsession that got BK's interest? Also Nance was a runner! ( final sentences of your screenshot)


BTW The Cellebrite couple in the Levy interview also said he was v interested in a link named SK Timelines. They didn't give the URL & there are a few out there
Here's a possibility, by Radford Univ

Serial Killer Timelines

 

[Dotta]

He is a former addict drinking a whole bottle of wine as a first-year grad student at a college event, when most people (not addicts, not killers) are trying to make the best possible Impression on faculty.

Mind you,
This guy is not right in the head.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

He is a former addict drinking a whole bottle of wine as a first-year grad student at a college event, when most people (not addicts, not killers) are trying to make the best possible Impression on faculty.

Mind you,
This guy is not right in the head.

JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

Went back to a very old msm report to see if it has any details about his drinking.
Maybe it was for ' Dutch courage' before approaching women? Despite having told the other WSU student that he couldn't understand why people drank alcohol

Bryan Kohberger harassed women at Pennsylvania brewery: report

Bryan Kohberger, accused of brutally murdering four University of Idaho students last month, frightened female staffers at a Pennsylvania brewery near his hometown, according to a report.

nypost.com

Around May 2022 when he was at De Sales

' The brewery, which scans everyone’s IDs, has a system in which staff members can add notes or comments about a patron that will pop up on a screen whenever the ID is scanned again, Serulneck told the network.

“Staff put in there, ‘Hey, this guy makes creepy comments, keep an eye on him. He’ll have two or three beers and then just get a little too comfortable,” he said.'
Kohberger would ask women — staff or customers — who they were at the brewery with, and where they lived, Serulneck said. If the women weren’t interested, “he would get upset with them a little bit.”

In one instance, Seruneck recalled he called an employee a “” when she declined to answer his questions.

Serulneck said he was forced to confront Kohberger during his final visit to the brewery.

“I went up to him and I said, ‘Hey Bryan, welcome back. We appreciate you coming back. … I just wanted to talk to you real quick and make sure that you’re going to be respectful this time and we’re not going to have any issues,’” Serulneck said he told the alleged murderer, who was stunned

“He was shocked that I was saying that, and he said, ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about. You totally have me confused.’”



( Ever the liar - similar to what he was like with his parents if he was ever busted in earlier years)

 

[cottonweaver]

Went back to a very old msm report to see if it has any details about his drinking.
Maybe it was for ' Dutch courage' before approaching women? Despite having told the other WSU student that he couldn't understand why people drank alcohol

Bryan Kohberger harassed women at Pennsylvania brewery: report

Bryan Kohberger, accused of brutally murdering four University of Idaho students last month, frightened female staffers at a Pennsylvania brewery near his hometown, according to a report.

nypost.com

Around May 2022 when he was at De Sales

' The brewery, which scans everyone’s IDs, has a system in which staff members can add notes or comments about a patron that will pop up on a screen whenever the ID is scanned again, Serulneck told the network.

“Staff put in there, ‘Hey, this guy makes creepy comments, keep an eye on him. He’ll have two or three beers and then just get a little too comfortable,” he said.'
Kohberger would ask women — staff or customers — who they were at the brewery with, and where they lived, Serulneck said. If the women weren’t interested, “he would get upset with them a little bit.”

In one instance, Seruneck recalled he called an employee a “” when she declined to answer his questions.

Serulneck said he was forced to confront Kohberger during his final visit to the brewery.

“I went up to him and I said, ‘Hey Bryan, welcome back. We appreciate you coming back. … I just wanted to talk to you real quick and make sure that you’re going to be respectful this time and we’re not going to have any issues,’” Serulneck said he told the alleged murderer, who was stunned

“He was shocked that I was saying that, and he said, ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about. You totally have me confused.’”



( Ever the liar - similar to what he was like with his parents if he was ever busted in earlier years)

 

[girlhasnoname]

ok I'll cop to it - I have used those terms and so have many others in my huge immediate family and extended family but the one cousin who does it all the time, I consider him 'weird'

the weird thing about the 'SISTER' for me is that he has two sisters so which one did he not have in his phone or was she under a different name, maybe even her first name?

Good catch, maybe the murderer didn't have a relationship with one of the sisters? Could be a lot of reasons why IYNWIM.

 

[Tricia]

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[Chloegirl]

He is a former addict drinking a whole bottle of wine as a first-year grad student at a college event, when most people (not addicts, not killers) are trying to make the best possible Impression on faculty.

Busted! Former addicts do not typically drink, have green leafy substances when arrested, and so I am going to say he was using the moment he got to the area. Not clean and sober. Got away from the family, back into habits, out of control. JMOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

The time difference for her as well! 5am calls then bedtime?
Hope this poor mother could nap during the day

I think Mrs. K enabled the murderer, whether from unconditional love or from fear of what he may do if he felt rejected or unwanted based on past behaviors. She is still a victim of his to me.

I would hope a mother of a 28 year old attending CJ Doctorate studies would be able to set some very important boundaries. It sounds like the murderer called the shots in the emotional relationships within the family. I will always believe he was a problem child from very early on.

Maybe Mom(ther) felt some sort of guilt because of the murderer's strange behaviors and actions and in turn, overcompensated in an effort to 'fix' him. Which is common, but can also be dysfunctional itself.

Oh to know the real story of the family dynamics of the entire family from the time the murderer entered the picture and onward. Isn't there quite an age difference between him and his 2 sisters?

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

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The murderer is the one who opened up his entire innocent family to this intense scrutiny by killing four young adults of other parents and loved ones.

Unfortunately, this case will never be closed for them and all the other people affected (Survivors, LE, UI and the Community as a whole) by the murderer's actions that night. HE made them all victims, including his own family.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

My comment was in sympathy for the time difference and interruption of life/sleep/emotional energy of a retired older mom of what should be a fully launched 28 year old 3rd born finally out from under them and across the country in a PhD program.
It’s ODD as well especially when said failure to launch creep brutally slaughtered 4 beautiful young students who did launch successfully.
It ALL invites speculation, interest and examination
No one is expecting to know what was said but we’re a typically curious bunch here trying to understand the dynamics, pathology and backstory of what made BK

Books will be written asking all the same questions and more

Agree, Books, TV series and Specials already with plenty more in the pipeline I'd guess.

The murderer caused this, not his parents, but they will unfortunately suffer the consequences.

MOO

 

[Warwick7]

I never caught before BK turned his wifi off 2 days before the murder.

 

[cottonweaver]

Go back to that old ' People' link I posted on this page

Was that the pre-Washington MO? ( from at least as far back as May 2022)

Kohberger would ask women — staff or customers — who they were at the brewery with, and where they lived, Serulneck said. If the women weren’t interested, “he would get upset with them a little bit.”

Trawl for women. ( public places, bars etc)
Select the right ' specimen' as he told the WSU TA ( Mass Guy's links)
Try & find out name ( SM Cyber stalk opportunities if they give him their full name , download images etc)
In case he can't get that detail, ask them where they lived ( Prowl and creep around the area and streets where they lived. Find the house. Scope it for ease of access or just voyeurism etc)
Planning! ( At least in this link, he's not using typical pick-up lines or even Qs like 'Are you single?', ' What are you studying?' etc )

Feels like the brewery manager told us the MO, back in late Dec 2022

ETA - actually it implies he asked ' who are you with' not ' who are you'