GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion

When I read that my brain went straight to going through the processes as an act. If he was never arrested he should be doing this, right?! JMOO
 
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I have had strong weird feelings about this for a while. I think he was trying to shove the death penalty in his Mother's face. Suicide by cop through another form. She may have excessively demanded (they seem to have a prove you love me back and fourth vibe) he save himself, confess, relinquish the DP.

I think he does not want to live and has been throwing himself away for more than a decade, torturing his family through the process, along with the rest of us now. JMOO
I think "proxy suicide" via incarceration in many cases, especially with men in their late teens into their 20s - they trash their life through crime, essentially "ending" it by going to prison forever.

However, I don't think so with BK. I think he is still proceeding through his life "experiencing" it. Sometimes I even suspect he's totally fine with what is happening to his life.

jmopinion
 
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Mistakes in that article. Combining incidents that were not about the residents of the house with unrelated things.
Well, at least they're consistent :/ The Daily Mail is known to do this often. They honestly don't care how accurate they are, as long as they get that article out there first. I still don't see how they are considered a reputable source.
 
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I think "proxy suicide" via incarceration in many cases, especially with men in their late teens into their 20s - they trash their life through crime, essentially "ending" it by going to prison forever.

However, I don't think so with BK. I think he is still proceeding through his life "experiencing" it. Sometimes I even suspect he's totally fine with what is happening to his life.

jmopinion

You could be right. Maybe this gave him an identity. That was sad to just even type. He suffers from lack of an identity more than anybody I have ever considered.

He attaches himself temporarily to ideas, acts on them via poor judgment or overcompensates when he does not like maybe his own actions. Really just a sad life, hell bent on taking others out with him. JMOO
 
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I think he does not want to live and has been throwing himself away for more than a decade,

SBM

It’s entirely possible, as he refuses to share anything, but if that’s true then IMO he should have accepted the death penalty and insisted on no decades-long appeal process.

He’s going to remain an enigma unless one day he decides to explain his motive and give all the pertinent details.

I don’t see this happening anytime soon. Maybe in 20 years when the attention has been supplanted by future murderers and he wants the spotlight again.


Just my speculation.
 
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He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion
It's towards the very end of that video if you scroll back from the end. Mentioned by the Mr Cellebrite, not Mrs C.

I wonder how or if he relayed it to his family? No job, no insurance. No PhD
 
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He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion

IMO

It shows how detached he was/is from reality :oops:

He simply didn't understand what was wrong,
didn't take hints concerning his behaviour towards others.

It seems he said whatever came to his mind,
whatever "saliva put on his tongue".
(Children sometimes do this,
say hurtful things without realizing they may bother others)

I think he is insane.

He is living in his own world,
completely oblivious of his negative impact on others.
He seems law unto himself.

His nocturnal activities look like double life.
Prowling at night
"teaching" during days.
Unable to form meaningful relationships.
Or not really needing them?

His only "soft spot" seems to be his family.
(He reacted aggressively thinking an inmate offended Mother)
But maybe he sees family as extension of himself?

No remorse whatsoever.
It struck me
when during sentencing some members of victims' families offered him forgiveness
which he did NOT ask for!

JMO

Just my observations, my impressions
as I'm not a psychiatrist.
I'm at a loss what to think really.
 
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I think BK had every intention of not getting caught and doing this all over again. He was just getting started. moo
 
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I can't help but wonder how bad of a driver he must be to be pulled over at all, let alone twice in a short span.

Doesn't mean anything, I know, but it's just an odd detail.

jmopinion
MOO
It was an out of state plate drug transport check.
 
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I think BK had every intention of not getting caught and doing this all over again. He was just getting started. moo

He even praised himself!

"About three weeks after the murders,
Kohberger told the Ph.D. student
that whoever had committed the crimes


'must have been pretty good',

Idaho State Police Detective Sgt. Michael Van Leuven wrote in a report."


 
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SBM

It’s entirely possible, as he refuses to share anything, but if that’s true then IMO he should have accepted the death penalty and insisted on no decades-long appeal process.

He’s going to remain an enigma unless one day he decides to explain his motive and give all the pertinent details.

I don’t see this happening anytime soon. Maybe in 20 years when the attention has been supplanted by future murderers and he wants the spotlight again.


Just my speculation.

I think, like you, that he will keep his secrets for awhile to enjoy just by himself. At some point though, could be next year, could be twenty years, he’s going to want to talk.
So many times we heard that he was researching and talking about and wanted to know what it felt like to commit a crime or kill somebody.
Well, now he knows. So for that reason I think he wants to sit down and talk about it all at some point. Not so much to tell it so somebody else can analyze it, but to tell how he analyzed it all. After all, he is the smartest guy in the room.
 
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Have to reply to myself because he's going to get some of what he wanted . This video is a month old but the penny has just dropped for me because I hadn't seen the WSU documents until now.

' a desire to work with'
Screenshot 2025-08-19 at 18.53.48.webp
at 9mins in the interview


Career goals
BK to TA Ben, supp 0133. Maybe it crossed his mind that he could get prison visits or correspond with incarcerated killers like Ramsland had?

View attachment 609432
BTK was one of the many serial killers identified by the Cellebrite team (BK's 26 Dec binge surfing)

BK made references to Ramsland to another WSU witness who basically replied that she'd prefer to meet KR off her own initiative, not through BK

Research goals?

In the documents he makes references to his chosen field of study and specific research interests. 'Sexual burglars', ' offender decision-making' and their emotions and that the perps impulses were more important than victimology.
Corresponding with incarcerated killers would be a step-up from reddit questionnaires.
?

Incarcerated in Idaho max sec, the idea of this project probably keeps him going atm
 
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I think BK had every intention of not getting caught and doing this all over again. He was just getting started. moo
he thought he was invincible and even to this day, he's not suicidal.
Didn't want the DPenalty and the leaked prison video shows they don't think he needs a suicide vest.
As commentators have said, even though he was in a medical obs room with CCTV and windows, it's not effective 24x7 suicide prevention when you have all that kit, cords and plastic bags in his cell. We have to conclude that even after sentencing , he wasn't evaluated as a suicide risk
 
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I think, like you, that he will keep his secrets for awhile to enjoy just by himself. At some point though, could be next year, could be twenty years, he’s going to want to talk.
So many times we heard that he was researching and talking about and wanted to know what it felt like to commit a crime or kill somebody.
Well, now he knows. So for that reason I think he wants to sit down and talk about it all at some point. Not so much to tell it so somebody else can analyze it, but to tell how he analyzed it all. After all, he is the smartest guy in the room.
Right, and now he is the only guy in his room.
 
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I think, like you, that he will keep his secrets for awhile to enjoy just by himself. At some point though, could be next year, could be twenty years, he’s going to want to talk.
So many times we heard that he was researching and talking about and wanted to know what it felt like to commit a crime or kill somebody.
Well, now he knows. So for that reason I think he wants to sit down and talk about it all at some point. Not so much to tell it so somebody else can analyze it, but to tell how he analyzed it all. After all, he is the smartest guy in the room.
IMO he will only talk to experts he deems "worthy".
 
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Kevin Fixler reposted

@AmericaRpts


Did Bryan Kohberger’s red flags slip through the cracks?

· Wash State Univ received 12+ complaints

· Classmate called him as “possible future rapist”

· Kohberger was rude and condescending toward women

· Female classmate needed escort to car to avoid Kohberger

· Gonclaves reported a man watching her from nearby dumpster

2PM ET
@kfixler of @IdahoStatesman on the 500+ pages of new documents

https://foxnews.com/us/idaho-murder-documents-reveal-victims-stalking-fears-kohbergers-inappropriate-behavior-school


9:55 AM · Aug 19, 2025

 
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Freud would have a thing or two to say about it.

Guessing it was a complex dynamic. Mother and Father both, intuitively afraid of what he might do, left to his own devices. (I'm going to assume they feared drugs, theft, self-harm, not murder.)

I think he actually hated his mother. Controlling her satisfied his daily fix. He held them hostage, through guilt, fear, fidelity, pity, something. In them, he had an unfettered audience, monologue central, I expect.

Every day they got him through was perhaps a victory, an exhausting victory but a victory all the same. I wonder if he created a verbal fantasy social life, where they may have actually felt he was finding his way, fitting in, etc.

Pool party? He saw it as a fishbowl for phone number fishing. Must have felt quite powerful to him to decide who was and wasn't worthy of his perfect attention.

Where did he get this gross, inflated ego??????

A trove of personal selfies? Shirtless, puffed up chest. Impressing himself over and over?

Didn't last a single term in WA. For all the reasons, preoccupied with his greatness and the crime he was plotting long before he even landed himself at WSU. IMO this was the thesis and dissertation he planned all along.

Heartless criminal, barely disguised by a dress shirt.

JMO
I think it's funny he was appealing the termination. M00 Once he left he wasn't coming back.

1. BK leaves his home. Leaves behind a coverall tag and Walmart receipt on a bathroom shelf. He also takes ALL his clothes.

2. Dec 19, 2022 FBI had located a close family member of BK causes a genealogy"hit" relative to BK . Got BK's name.

3. Dec 19, 2022 BK is officially terminated at his job. The same day they got his name. That can't be a coincidence.

4. He is arrested Dec. 30th

5. Dec 30, 2022 WSU issued a No Trespassing Order against BK. Same day as the arrest. Again not a coincidence.
 
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Kevin Fixler reposted

@AmericaRpts


Did Bryan Kohberger’s red flags slip through the cracks?

· Wash State Univ received 12+ complaints

· Classmate called him as “possible future rapist”

· Kohberger was rude and condescending toward women

· Female classmate needed escort to car to avoid Kohberger

· Gonclaves reported a man watching her from nearby dumpster

2PM ET
@kfixler of @IdahoStatesman on the 500+ pages of new documents

https://foxnews.com/us/idaho-murder-documents-reveal-victims-stalking-fears-kohbergers-inappropriate-behavior-school


9:55 AM · Aug 19, 2025

Twelve complaints made and it wasn't even a full semester. That continues to amaze me. It's almost as if he were driven to get as many complaints as possible.

And, I'm thinking there were people who didn't make formal complaints. So many people try deal with people like BK on their own, through avoidance, etc. without actually making a complaint.

To rack up a dozen in just a few months is astonishing. It's like a tornado hit WSU.

jmo
 

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