David Rogers
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I found this on an old Google Groups site. Everything in quotes is from Google Groupes site.
“This should not be reproduced without attributing them to me.
On 19 Feb 1997, Kathie B wrote:
}To date, everyone in this newsgroup and in the chat rooms have been
}focusing on John Ramsey and John Andrew Ramsey. I've maintained that
}while people are certainly free to speculate, they shouldn't condemn
}before all the facts are in. Now I'm going to do my speculating about
}this case, which may be unfair since I've had the opportunity to talk
}to the Roswell PD detective who lives in my complex. I concede he
}certainly doesn't know all the facts either but, and he did NOT tell
}me who the primary suspect is, but, I think I have a fairly
}reasonable guess.
}
}First, John Andrew is out of the equation. He was confirmed to be in
}ATL not only by his mother and sister, but by his mom's next door
}neighbor who has told police they all had Christmas dinner with her.
}
}Second, while John Ramsey is still considered the prime suspect by it
}seems most of the public, I don't believe he did it. In the past,
}I've tried to point out logical reasons for many of the things he and
}Patsy have done in the past, though I may ultimately still be wrong
}about him. Now, though, the Roswell detective that I know (and
}Geraldo even mentioned it too), hinted around that John may soon be
}taken out of the equation, that the first two writing exemplars that
}he gave, cleared him from being the ransom note writer. While this
}obviously isn't certain since it hasn't come from the Boulder PD, its
}something to consider.
}
}What about Donald Paugh? He's been someone I've been seriously
}looking at as a possible prime suspect for several weeks. Why
}JonBenet's grandfather. Why not? He lives in Denver which isn't
}that long a ride from Boulder, he is known to have been in Denver and
}Boulder on Christmas Day, he has a key to the Ramsey house, his
}presence in the house at night wouldn't have scared JonBenet (maybe
}why she didn't scream and maybe why she may have willing gone to
}another part of the house with him), he works very closely with John
}Ramsey and therefore would probably have had easy access to John's
}bonus figures and certainly would have known John had served in the
}Navy at Subic Bay. It also would explain why Cindy Ramsey described
}John as a good husband and loving father (why not? if its Patsy's
}father then Cindy's daughters wouldn't have been molested). Then
}recall that it was Donald's wife who jumped to explain the bruise on
}JonBenet's arm (the hamster cage). It also explains why the Ramseys
}are staying with friends in Boulder rather than living with Patsy's
}father in Denver. It also supports John Douglas' conclusions that
}parents who murder their children are not usually the ones who find
}the body. There are a number of inconsistencies which can be as
}easily explained by inserting Donald Paugh into the equation instead
}of John Ramsey.
}
}I'm not going to create a scenario about how I think it exactly
}happened, I'll leave that to the fiction writers here or the DA in
}court if it comes down to that. But I think Mr. Paugh is as good (if
}not better) a suspect as anyone else. I just pray for Patsy's sake
}that it isn't her father. I can almost see a betrayal of this nature
}by a husband, but how would she live with a betrayal like this by her
}own father? My next question is one nobody else has brought up
}either, has anyone looked into whether Patsy or her sister Pamela
}were molested as young girls? The parallel early childhoods of Patsy
}and JonBenet would be almost to much.
}
}Again, these are not accusations, but I do think the speculations are
}reasonable given what we know are facts.
Tanya:
Thanks. Interestingly, my friend in the Roswell PD won't tell me
anything about Donald Paugh except - just watch for some news about
him (which of course only peaked my curiosity even more). From what
I remember about the very early coverage of this story in Atlanta's
papers though, Donald Paugh was in Denver the night of the murder (an
easy drive to Boulder in the middle of the night), and while Donald
and Nedra aren't divorced or legally separated (as far as I remember
- again from the paper), he lives he Denver to work at Access
Graphics. During the time of the funeral and when the Ramseys were
here in December-January for the week, they all stayed (Ramseys, Don,
Nedra) at the Paugh home on 865 Brooksglen Drive in Roswell.
What the Roswell detective did tell me I posted: John Andrew's alibi
is firm per Cindy, Melinda and neighbor Joan Crowley (who has sworn
the 4 of them all had dinner together Xmas), and, he said that the
reason the BPD wants a third writing exemplar from John Ramsey is
that the first two exonerate him and they want to make sure. While
this alone doesn't mean he didn't do it (I personally don't put much
faith in handwriting experts), it gives me more reason to look at
Donald Paugh. If I can get my neighbor to cough up anymore, I'll
certainly post it.
Kathie”
“This should not be reproduced without attributing them to me.
On 19 Feb 1997, Kathie B wrote:
}To date, everyone in this newsgroup and in the chat rooms have been
}focusing on John Ramsey and John Andrew Ramsey. I've maintained that
}while people are certainly free to speculate, they shouldn't condemn
}before all the facts are in. Now I'm going to do my speculating about
}this case, which may be unfair since I've had the opportunity to talk
}to the Roswell PD detective who lives in my complex. I concede he
}certainly doesn't know all the facts either but, and he did NOT tell
}me who the primary suspect is, but, I think I have a fairly
}reasonable guess.
}
}First, John Andrew is out of the equation. He was confirmed to be in
}ATL not only by his mother and sister, but by his mom's next door
}neighbor who has told police they all had Christmas dinner with her.
}
}Second, while John Ramsey is still considered the prime suspect by it
}seems most of the public, I don't believe he did it. In the past,
}I've tried to point out logical reasons for many of the things he and
}Patsy have done in the past, though I may ultimately still be wrong
}about him. Now, though, the Roswell detective that I know (and
}Geraldo even mentioned it too), hinted around that John may soon be
}taken out of the equation, that the first two writing exemplars that
}he gave, cleared him from being the ransom note writer. While this
}obviously isn't certain since it hasn't come from the Boulder PD, its
}something to consider.
}
}What about Donald Paugh? He's been someone I've been seriously
}looking at as a possible prime suspect for several weeks. Why
}JonBenet's grandfather. Why not? He lives in Denver which isn't
}that long a ride from Boulder, he is known to have been in Denver and
}Boulder on Christmas Day, he has a key to the Ramsey house, his
}presence in the house at night wouldn't have scared JonBenet (maybe
}why she didn't scream and maybe why she may have willing gone to
}another part of the house with him), he works very closely with John
}Ramsey and therefore would probably have had easy access to John's
}bonus figures and certainly would have known John had served in the
}Navy at Subic Bay. It also would explain why Cindy Ramsey described
}John as a good husband and loving father (why not? if its Patsy's
}father then Cindy's daughters wouldn't have been molested). Then
}recall that it was Donald's wife who jumped to explain the bruise on
}JonBenet's arm (the hamster cage). It also explains why the Ramseys
}are staying with friends in Boulder rather than living with Patsy's
}father in Denver. It also supports John Douglas' conclusions that
}parents who murder their children are not usually the ones who find
}the body. There are a number of inconsistencies which can be as
}easily explained by inserting Donald Paugh into the equation instead
}of John Ramsey.
}
}I'm not going to create a scenario about how I think it exactly
}happened, I'll leave that to the fiction writers here or the DA in
}court if it comes down to that. But I think Mr. Paugh is as good (if
}not better) a suspect as anyone else. I just pray for Patsy's sake
}that it isn't her father. I can almost see a betrayal of this nature
}by a husband, but how would she live with a betrayal like this by her
}own father? My next question is one nobody else has brought up
}either, has anyone looked into whether Patsy or her sister Pamela
}were molested as young girls? The parallel early childhoods of Patsy
}and JonBenet would be almost to much.
}
}Again, these are not accusations, but I do think the speculations are
}reasonable given what we know are facts.
Tanya:
Thanks. Interestingly, my friend in the Roswell PD won't tell me
anything about Donald Paugh except - just watch for some news about
him (which of course only peaked my curiosity even more). From what
I remember about the very early coverage of this story in Atlanta's
papers though, Donald Paugh was in Denver the night of the murder (an
easy drive to Boulder in the middle of the night), and while Donald
and Nedra aren't divorced or legally separated (as far as I remember
- again from the paper), he lives he Denver to work at Access
Graphics. During the time of the funeral and when the Ramseys were
here in December-January for the week, they all stayed (Ramseys, Don,
Nedra) at the Paugh home on 865 Brooksglen Drive in Roswell.
What the Roswell detective did tell me I posted: John Andrew's alibi
is firm per Cindy, Melinda and neighbor Joan Crowley (who has sworn
the 4 of them all had dinner together Xmas), and, he said that the
reason the BPD wants a third writing exemplar from John Ramsey is
that the first two exonerate him and they want to make sure. While
this alone doesn't mean he didn't do it (I personally don't put much
faith in handwriting experts), it gives me more reason to look at
Donald Paugh. If I can get my neighbor to cough up anymore, I'll
certainly post it.
Kathie”
