Porepunkah shooting: Two officers dead and another wounded after shooting at High Country property, Victoria, Australia

[sapphire blue]

Moo...I live bc canada, so kinda amusing. It is not that cold there. It is spring there, and he's a local. So if he knows the area well. Probably got connections with others of same political beliefs, he can go hang out with.

‘Not that cold there’ - you’d be surprised to learn that people from Canada, uk, Scotland etc often say they find the cold here much colder than their home countries, it is a different cold and tracky pants wouldn’t provide much warmth.

It’s still winter here. Today’s forecast for Porepunkah includes showers and the chance of a winter thunderstorm, with wind chill factor the current temp is 9c but feels like 3.5c.

 

[drsleuth]

Hail, storm could confront searchers
By Adam Vidler09:35
Police searching for Desmond Filby, aka Dezi Freeman, face another day with a "very high chance of showers", according to the Bureau of Meteorology's forecast for Victoria's north-east.
Snow is forecast to fall above 900 metres, while temperatures will range from 5 to 13 degrees.
Winds are blowing north-westerly between 20km/h and 30km/h.
Tomorrow conditions are set to worsen, with the snow level falling to 700m and the chance of damaging winds and of a thunderstorm in the north of the region.
Hail is also possible tomorrow evening, while temperatures will range from 4 to 12 degrees.
Tonight, the mercury is set to fall as low as 2 degrees.

Freeman could possibly survive in bush for 'months'
By Adam Vidler10:07
Criminologist Vincent Hurley says it's possible Freeman could survive out in the bush for "months" - but he doesn't think it likely .
"If he's a bit of a prepper, as they say, he could have somewhere in a cave food, water, change of clothes, jacket, firearms and ammunition, so he could be out there for months," Hurley told Today.
Police previously described Freeman as skilled in bushcraft.
However, Hurley suspected it was more likely police had the area Freeman was in cordoned off and that he would be unable to slip past them.

'Wear him down': Weather will help in hunt for gunman suspect, expert says

www.9news.com.au

 

[SLouTh]

If he is hiding out in a cave ….. could he possibly light a fire just inside the entrance to the cave and not be detected? Would the smoke be disguised in the low level cloud / fog? And the fire wouldn’t be visible from the air as it is just inside the cave opening?

Just asking if it would be possible? As no experience with caves ….

 

[drsleuth]

Porepunkah police shooting LIVE: Victoria police provide update on search for ‘sovereign citizen’ Dezi Freeman as thick brush around Mount Buffalo hampers progress

Alleged gunman Dezi Freeman remains on the run, heavily armed and with nothing to lose as tributes flow for the two officers shot and killed in Porepunkah. Follow our live coverage.

www.theage.com.au

Good to see they have blurred the tactical police officers faces!

Flowers at Wangaratta Police Station

Dozens of floral tributes line Wangaratta Police Station, an hour’s drive from Porepunkah

 

[Lemony]

If police had done a proper risk assessment for this case then the least they could do was to have the getaways into the bush covered.
Also they should have expected the welcome they got by noticing the CCTV cameras guarding the entrance.
I stand by the fact that conciliation with this madman was a better option than arriving in a swarm that would only aggravate the situation and incite Freeman into responding.
Now they have at least 100 people, maybe 200, involved to try and catch him before he kills someone else.
Anyway that that's my opinion and it will probably be my last post.

It sounds like you are blaming the police and telling them how they should have done their job?
I'm a Vicpol spouse and I find your comment really off.

 

[Trooper]

If he is hiding out in a cave ….. could he possibly light a fire just inside the entrance to the cave and not be detected? Would the smoke be disguised in the low level cloud / fog? And the fire wouldn’t be visible from the air as it is just inside the cave opening?

Just asking if it would be possible? As no experience with caves ….

I am not a caver, and the only caves I know of around this area are the River Caves on Mt Buffalo. . I was taken there once and screamed , absolutely refusing to enter... underground water channel .,, this was in summer,it would be ghastly in winter, now with the runoff from heavy rain... its' about 55 klms from Porepunkah he'd have to get there how he travels around without leaving a trail, considering the weaponry he is carting with him, I do not know.

even if he found a cave, smoke issuing from it looks different to fog, and they have heat seeking cameras flying back and forth........I figure they could pick up a fire...

 

[drsleuth]

'Remain indoors': New police message to locals
By Adam Vidler10:37
Police have sent another text has been sent to Porepunkah locals this morning.
"Specialist police continue to search for Desmond Freeman (Filby) who is armed and dangerous," it read.
"Multiple police units remain in the general area of Porepunkah."If you see Desmond, call 000 immediately and do not approach him.
"Restrict non-essential travel and remain indoors with buildings and vehicles locked where possible.
"Roadblocks may be in place."
The text came through shortly before 10am.

'Wear him down': Weather will help in hunt for gunman suspect, expert says

www.9news.com.au

 

[Marg944]

Porepunkah shooting live: Victoria police ‘throwing everything’ at manhunt for suspect as search enters day three​

Porepunkah police shooting live updates: Victoria police ‘throwing everything’ at manhunt for suspect as search enters day three – latest news

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www.theguardian.com

 

[TootsieFootsie]

A local camping store said he hadn't been in there.

But police would be going over all his purchases from anywhere, even going way back.

I'm thinking the details of what he has with him might change depending on what they find out.

It is possible though that what he escaped with is all he has.

 

[3llecia]

What these “sovereign citizens” don’t realise is that their whole ideology comes from a place of immense privilege AND inconveniences tax-paying Australians doing the right thing. Who pays for the roads and public schools and hospitals? Taxpayers and the governments they hate so much. I have hope that Freeman will be found soon. Preferably immediately taken into custody.

Agree. To crusade against lockdowns and then bring terror like this to his own community, just reveals the inherent selfishness of these people.

They are so confused. Hate the law but end up in court and threatening to sue more than most. Similarly, end up in the company of police more than a regular person who has nothing against authority. Decry freedom but they can’t leave others alone and cause nuisance. The worst of them are scared of 5G towers but have all the time in the world to spend online with their fraternity of rock spiders.

Every single one I’ve ever met has access to money they didn’t earn and too much time on their hands. I think their paranoia and neurosis are channelled into beliefs that protect them from suffering guilt or shame. You can’t be bad for breaking the law if you refuse to accept the law, right? They all have something to cover up, whether it’s a moral deficit or genuine criminal behaviour, and it drives them madder and madder when alienation and aggression fail to keep reality at bay.

Deeply fragmented personalities who can’t survive the truth of themselves and the world, and so they wage war on whoever threatens the constructs of their delusions. Which isn’t hard to do, nothing they believe is truly sensible or fair, mainly selfish.

 

[Marg944]

Vic Police have today put a notice on the airport cams - Temporary Restricted Access

https://view.myairportcams.com/YPOK/showimagecamera2.php

 

[Absoluterubbish]

If police had done a proper risk assessment for this case then the least they could do was to have the getaways into the bush covered.
Also they should have expected the welcome they got by noticing the CCTV cameras guarding the entrance.
I stand by the fact that conciliation with this madman was a better option than arriving in a swarm that would only aggravate the situation and incite Freeman into responding.
Now they have at least 100 people, maybe 200, involved to try and catch him before he kills someone else.
Anyway that that's my opinion and it will probably be my last post.

They sent that detective in specifically because he had a rapport with him. So sounds like they did pretty much everything they could. The police don't expect to be executed while serving a warrant.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Scary to think that he may possibly have riigged some of the caves and tunnels around where he is.

I can understand the police not just going right in and searching them at this stage.

 

[Trooper]

'Remain indoors': New police message to locals
By Adam Vidler10:37
Police have sent another text has been sent to Porepunkah locals this morning.
"Specialist police continue to search for Desmond Freeman (Filby) who is armed and dangerous," it read.
"Multiple police units remain in the general area of Porepunkah."If you see Desmond, call 000 immediately and do not approach him.
"Restrict non-essential travel and remain indoors with buildings and vehicles locked where possible.
"Roadblocks may be in place."
The text came through shortly before 10am.

'Wear him down': Weather will help in hunt for gunman suspect, expert says

www.9news.com.au

Looks to me like VICPOL think he is in the area..... and on foot. Which is a reasonable conclusion, no cars missing, no reports of farm equipment being stolen... bloke with a bad back hefting a whole lot of clobber trying to move secretly around Porepunkah/Bright/ Myrtleford/ Wandiligong... tripping over tree branches and uneven ground in his blundie boots, his wet blundie boots.

He might have set off running without his oxycontin, too!!!!! THAT would be a terrific handicap....

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I was listening to a non Australian person narrating a different old Australian crime yesterday and I noticed they pronounced our Australian emergency number in an odd way.

They said each letter. Ie phone Zero, Zero, Zero.


It is always said as Triple Zero.


Just a bit of local knowledge.

 

[drsleuth]

Looks to me like VICPOL think he is in the area..... and on foot. Which is a reasonable conclusion, no cars missing, no reports of farm equipment being stolen... bloke with a bad back hefting a whole lot of clobber trying to move secretly around Porepunkah/Bright/ Myrtleford/ Wandiligong... tripping over tree branches and uneven ground in his blundie boots, his wet blundie boots.

He might have set off running without his oxycontin, too!!!!! THAT would be a terrific handicap....

So you can add withdrawls to his woes .................

I also think he's still local, alive or not I'm not sure

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Those earlier videos of him show him not exactly looking in the best shape.
He has "man "bumps".

I had to edit the word into something else, so "man bumps" instead of man you know starting with b.
And kind of a bit pudgy looking.

I hope he reads this somehow

 

[TootsieFootsie]

And I'm not saying he's old but he is just a few years away from being 60.

So I just wonder how fit he actually is and how long he can keep going out in the elements, even with shelter.

 

[drsleuth]

3 minutes ago

Heavily armed police swarm on Mt Buffalo Rd property​

Tactical response units descended on a property on Mt Buffalo Rd on Thursday morning where concerned neighbours could be seen speaking with officers.

The Herald Sun obtained exclusive vision of the operation, during which about six members of the Critical Incident Response Team surrounded the home with their guns drawn as they scoured the area.

Police speak to a woman after descending on a property on Mt Buffalo Rd. Picture: Jason Edwards

Heavily armed police searched the property. Picture: Jason Edwards

About six members of the Critical Incident Response Team searched the property. Picture: Jason Edwards

The manhunt at Porepunkah is in its third day. Picture: Jason Edwards
A woman who appeared to live at the house directed attending officers’ attention to the back of the property before CIRT operatives walked around the house and a nearby shed.

The operatives trained their guns on the home for several minutes while other officers walked towards the back of the house and into the shed.

A short time later, a sudden noise caught the attention of the police, who then scanned bushland behind the home with their guns still drawn.

After clearing the home, the tactical team patrolled a nearby track.

 

[Trooper]

So you can add withdrawls to his woes .................

I also think he's still local, alive or not I'm not sure

I figured if he is in receipt of a disability pension, his symptoms of his bad back stuff would be registered and medicated,,, packets of endone all over the house, and wet weather does bad backs no favours Dr S!!

If he is in withdrawal of that substance and that means increase in pain relative to his dosage, he won't last long....

I hasted to add, in my amateur opinion, Sleuthy!!