Possible lead in Susan Powell case, 8-18-11

[sunnydee]

If I remember correctly, I've seen websites that JP created in the past. Wasn't there one using his wife's name and it had danger warnings about entering it, with spiders and other stuff on it? I think it had password protection so outside people couldn't view what was posted inside.

It was pretty creepy. Is it possible that it could have taken more than a year for the police to crack the website to view what was inside? Maybe that is what led the police to Ely. Or maybe they weren't really trying too hard to break into the website until recently?

 

[sunnydee]

My opinion of D. Petersen and J.P. is that their stories of wives running off with other men illustrate their disgust of their wives, while they are trying to maintain the image that they were devoted husbands, no marital problems that they were aware of, and suddenly the wives ran off with someone else.

In reality, if they had no reason to believe their wives were involved with another man, then why wouldn't they be even a tiny bit concern that (even if they insist that they didn't do it) that their wives' disapparance may not have been voluntary - and either someone they knew or a stranger might have taken them against their will?

Seriously, no other thoughts other than their wives ran off with a man they just happened to have met?

That says a lot about what they really think of their wives, and it's not that they loved them.

 

[hollyblue]

Father-in-law, husband of missing Susan Powell argue Saturday in Puyallup, Wash.


http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52424180-78/powell-cox-josh-susan.html.csp

no video yet

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The order bars Cox from harming Josh Powell “and from molesting, harassing, threatening or stalking” him, according to court documents. It also states Cox can’t go to the Powells’ home, workplaces or to the schools where his two grandchildren, Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4, attend

The title isn't right. Should be Father and Father in law argue.

Josh has the temp restraining order, not his dad Steven.

It's been corrected

Father-in-law, father of missing Susan Powell argue Saturday in Puyallup, Wash.

Maybe their not going to allow the video?

What I'm seeing, imo, is whatever is going on in Ely, is of no concern to JP or his father...because they are more worried about court next week and the RO. I think the P's would be pretty quite and hunkering down if it was anything they knew about. :twocents: Yet, I could be wrong.

 

[sunnydee]

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16894238

On Saturday, they went to the Ward historic mining district, which is about 30 miles south of Ely. They spent less than an hour there. They also went to an abandoned warehouse still filled with core samples from drilling.
Investigators took photographs and wrote down coordinates of the various areas they looked at, which will be further analyzed when they get back to Utah.
Investigators planned to document and search abandoned mining shafts for about a half day, but finished up early.

 

[laytonian]

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16894238

On Saturday, they went to the Ward historic mining district, which is about 30 miles south of Ely. They spent less than an hour there. They also went to an abandoned warehouse still filled with core samples from drilling.
Investigators took photographs and wrote down coordinates of the various areas they looked at, which will be further analyzed when they get back to Utah.
Investigators planned to document and search abandoned mining shafts for about a half day, but finished up early.

If they're tracking coordinates that closely, they've retrieved online mapping or GPS data......OR have triangulated cell phone tower hits.

 

[katydid23]

You nailed it twizzlrgirl! The 'P' men aren't reasoning like a woman. They are giving elaborate scenarios/theories which is just not beleivable to me as a woman. I mean no disrespect to our WS goodguys but men and women are hardwired to think differently. The whole camping story is ludicrous to me.

I lived in a miserable marriage which took years to escape because I was afraid. Spot cleaning the carpet was the LAST thing on my mind when I finally fled. (with my children, btw)

MOO wm

BBM

And the alibi given by JP does not work when you think like a woman. What woman would ever agree to allow her toddlers to be taken out of the house at midnight in the middle of a blizzard, so that supposedly, they could go make s'mores? No woman that I know would ever allow that to happen. Ever.

I really worry about those little boys. I hope someone is keeping a very close eye on them now.

 

[DLT88]

These are all signs to me of a guilty man. His nervousness is coming out as anger, and he's starting to lash out. Sounds like he's starting to unravel.

Lets hope so--- just like Mark Hacking did!

 

[cluciano63]

Lets hope so--- just like Mark Hacking did!

But Mark H. caved in a matter of days and confessed to his brother...no, I don't see this guy confessing to anything...

 

[sunnydee]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52412070-75/powell-josh-susan-dec.html.csp

photos and timeline (sorry if it has already been posted before)

 

[panthera]

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16894238

On Saturday, they went to the Ward historic mining district, which is about 30 miles south of Ely. They spent less than an hour there. They also went to an abandoned warehouse still filled with core samples from drilling.
Investigators took photographs and wrote down coordinates of the various areas they looked at, which will be further analyzed when they get back to Utah.
Investigators planned to document and search abandoned mining shafts for about a half day, but finished up early.

Sounds as if they have found what they were there for if they wrapped up early.

I do question if Susan's body is anywhere near this location due to the weather conditions at the time she went missing. It appears to be an area that would've been covered with ice and/or snow if he went off-road.

MOO

 

[sunnydee]

If I remember correctly, I've seen websites that JP created in the past. Wasn't there one using his wife's name and it had danger warnings about entering it, with spiders and other stuff on it? I think it had password protection so outside people couldn't view what was posted inside.

It was pretty creepy. Is it possible that it could have taken more than a year for the police to crack the website to view what was inside? Maybe that is what led the police to Ely. Or maybe they weren't really trying too hard to break into the website until recently?

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No, I think it was under his son's name Charlie and said something like welcome to the spider's lair - but you could only enter the website with permission by the owner ... anyone else remember this?

 

[gwenabob]

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No, I think it was under his son's name Charlie and said something like welcome to the spider's lair - but you could only enter the website with permission by the owner ... anyone else remember this?

Yes, I do. Super creepy.

 

[cluciano63]

JP reminds me more of Scott P., complete with enabling family members...

 

[sunnydee]

If Josh did use industrial plastic wrap to seal Susan's body, it could have preserved evidence as well. Wouldn't that be something?

 

[laytonian]

But Mark H. caved in a matter of days and confessed to his brother...no, I don't see this guy confessing to anything...

JP has a very protective Hamburglar, who always seemed to know which buttons to push.

 

[sunnydee]

Idiocy of the theory that she ran off with a guy she just met -- this is a woman who completed training to be a certified financial planner, and she was in the process of getting her cosmotology license (I think she was short some hours) -- why would a woman leave not only her husband, children, family, friends behind but walk away from the way she earns a living?

Why wouldn't she just get a divorce, so she could continue to make a living using her credentials rather than start all over again? Did she flee from her life with Josh for a glamourous job of using a fake ID so she can be a waitress or other job that you can get without references or a history of employment?

 

[laytonian]

If Josh did use industrial plastic wrap to seal Susan's body, it could have preserved evidence as well. Wouldn't that be something?

All it would have done, is kept the remains tightly-wrapped for disposal. I always wondered if he shrink-wrapped her to the sled, so he could slide her down a steep, snowy ravine.

Plastic wrap wouldn't stop bacteria, insects, natural decomposition and swelling of the body. Animals would quickly bite holes in it, and once it was compromised, it'd be "scattered remains". (sorry to be so graphic)

 

[laytonian]

Idiocy of the theory that she ran off with a guy she just met -- this is a woman who completed training to be a certified financial planner, and she was in the process of getting her cosmotology license (I think she was short some hours) -- why would a woman leave not only her husband, children, family, friends behind but walk away from the way she earns a living?

Why wouldn't she just get a divorce, so she could continue to make a living using her credentials rather than start all over again? Did she flee from her life with Josh for a glamourous job of using a fake ID so she can be a waitress or other job that you can get without references or a history of employment?

Precisely.

If she had her bachelor's degree (required for certification as a financial planner), she could easily have walked away. I wonder why she didn't get a brokerage license (she was an assistant, who takes the calls and enters the trades we call in).
I'm not sure why one would leave a CFP to become a hairdresser, though.

 

[cluciano63]

Precisely.

If she had her bachelor's degree (required for certification as a financial planner), she could easily have walked away. I wonder why she didn't get a brokerage license (she was an assistant, who takes the calls and enters the trades we call in).
I'm not sure why one would leave a CFP to become a hairdresser, though.

Was she changing careers or planning for a second income, I wonder...

 

[laytonian]

But Mark H. caved in a matter of days and confessed to his brother...no, I don't see this guy confessing to anything...

Jennifer Graves (his sister) went to Washington State with her husband, to have a "come to Jesus" meeting with Josh. It didn't work as well as Hacking's brother's work.

Then again, the case was actually solved the first day. Hacking was tipped as having bought a mattress that morning (before he reported her missing) and was also seen disposing of the old (bloody) mattress on a security camera. The confession is all it took.

I knew he was lying, when I saw Hacking in that neatly-ironed and perfectly-centered and folded light-blue Harley Davidson headband...that first morning. Who'd take time to do that, and why was he so freshly-clean after having searched fo her?