Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #2

[4Jacy]

Where is Casey????:crazy::crazy:

Who cares? She's yesterdays' nightmare. I hope we never hear about her again. Just sayin'

 

[~n/t~]

I still find that 15 police working on the case is significant. The fact that a very high priced attorney to known stars is significant. Also a very expensive PR firm has been hired is significant. Who the heck needs a very high priced law firm and PR firm unless there is more hidden than exposed? Stay tuned.

I don't think it has any significance imo. With the kind of money he has, he probably has these people on speed dial. They're probably his best friends. Just sayin.......

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I still find that 15 police working on the case is significant. The fact that a very high priced attorney to known stars is significant. Also a very expensive PR firm has been hired is significant. Who the heck needs a very high priced law firm and PR firm unless there is more hidden than exposed? Stay tuned.

I really don't hold that against them Bonepile. Look at the chatter already spreading on the internet about their possible involvement. 1.Adam 2. Jonah 3. Dina

Rich people do hire PR firms to speak out in their behalf.

Of course the police are still working this case diligently as they should any case. By wanting the camera footage at the hospital shows me they pretty much do believe Jonah, Dina and Adam and what they have told them and are wanting to confirm it once and for all by seeing the activity at the hospital.

LE rules out and rules in as they go, imo.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I don't think it has any significance imo. With the kind of money he has, he probably has these people on speed dial. They're probably his best friends. Just sayin.......

I think having a PR firm is the right thing to do in this case. PR firms try to put out fires that are started through speculation.

This not only affects Jonah's personal life but he has stockholders in his company also.

Lots to lose so of course they need someone to speak out on their behalf.

Doesn't mean they are guilty of anything.

I wouldn't think Jonah or Dina are in the right frame of mind now to speak out on their own to the media. I am sure they are aware how things can get twisted around if they do that.

IMO

 

[Lawgirl]

Interesting thought - thank you.

A law enforcement source told Radar Online, “The San Diego Sheriff's Department will be obtaining a search warrant to review the footage. Investigators want to confirm details of what Jonah, Adam, and Dina [Shacknai's second ex-wife and the mother of Max], have revealed to them. Jonah maintains that he was at the hospital when Rebecca's body was found. This is a very fluid investigation.”

Source: http://www.examiner.com/us-headline...veillance-tapes-to-be-examined-by-authorities

I'm glad LE is looking at the video to make sure there's nothing hinky going on.

MOO

Mel

Sure he may have been at the hospital when she was found -- he may have been anywhere else but home. Now that I've given it some thought Jonah is suspect too. I'm not going to buy all the lovey dovey photos I've seen so far. There is, after all, a PR firm in the mix. The man was married twice already and I'm inclined to think he would not be quick to want to get married a third time. We don't know if the relationship between the two was peachy as the media portrays...

Hopefully, those video will show that the two were indeed at the hospital after midnight on Tuesday night. We shall see...

 

[Lawgirl]

I don't know Linda. The officer in the press conference said he didn't want to disclose what type of material she was binded with but said she was suspended by rope. The media mentioned the electrical cord.

I could have been an orange colored rope. Those photos on the web are not too clear.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I don't necessarily believe that Rebekkah was killed because she was blamed for Maxie's accident. Maybe she was killed so she wouldn't tell anyone what really happened to Maxie. I don't know what happened, but I'm not buying the simple fall down the stairs story.

I think she either refused to continue to participate in a cover-up, or was using what she knew about it to manipulate Jonah. What if she told him, "marry me or I'll tell"?

I don't believe the spin about his intention to marry her. Why would he want to share his assets? He doesn't seem like a lovey-dovey family man to me!

Well he has no aversion to marriage. He has already done it twice so I do think he wanted to marry Rebecca. Now there may have been some prenuptial agreement beforehand but by all accounts they were very much in love with each other.

Why would she not tell the truth instantly about Max's accident. She and her sister were the only one in the home at the time of his accident.

While I question the accident and how it happened.. I know that he could have hit his head on a hard object when he fell such as a table, light or even the wood carved walls and sustained serious head trauma.

If it is not a suicide then I dont think it was done by Jonah at all.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I could have been an orange colored rope. Those photos on the web are not too clear.

Thats true and they do make a bright orange color in nylon ropes used for various things. They too are very strong and come in many thicknesses.

IMO

 

[4Jacy]

I am very troubled by the fact that Max's sister was whisked away immediately after the accident to SC. Why? Wouldn't she stay for the funeral? Something is not at all right with this picture.

 

[Cazzie]

I read "somewhere" that JS utilized/utilizes his own products (the cosmetic enhancement ones). If true, I wonder what, if any, side effects there could be?

Sorry to quote myself...

The reason I'm wondering is that could it explain some of the rumors of JS' behavior and the reported DV with DS? For example, could any of the cosmetic enhancement treatments contain steroids or any other substances that cause violent/abusive behavior (a la "roid rage")? I'm asking in the context of the former JS/DS marriage, the JS/RN live-in relationship, family dynamics, and RN's death.

And then there is the alleged alcohol issue (with JS). I'm sure we all know "happy drunks" and those that are not so happy (understatement) when they are under the influence, IYKWIM.

 

[jjenny]

You do the best CPR you can in any given setting.
Including initiating it as soon as possible.

Some/most are not in the perfect setting or location
nor is the victim always in the best position for receiving CPR.

While the setting might not have to be "perfect" it still has to make some sense. A person given CPR has to be laid on their back (on a hard surface). So, how is it possible to give CPR to someone whose hands are tied behind their back? You can't even lay the victim flat on her back because hands are behind her back. I imagine people trained in CPR would have cut the cord holding the hands behind back first before giving CPR.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't necessarily believe that Rebekkah was killed because she was blamed for Maxie's accident. Maybe she was killed so she wouldn't tell anyone what really happened to Maxie. I don't know what happened, but I'm not buying the simple fall down the stairs story.

I think she either refused to continue to participate in a cover-up, or was using what she knew about it to manipulate Jonah. What if she told him, "marry me or I'll tell"?

I don't believe the spin about his intention to marry her. Why would he want to share his assets? He doesn't seem like a lovey-dovey family man to me!

Well even Paul McCartney is engaged again, after the nightmare of his second divorce and the fact that he is almost 70...some men just like to get married, IMO...I don't think it is a factor whether or not they were officially engaged or not...

 

[peace9274]

While the setting might not have to be "perfect" it still has to make some sense. A person given CPR has to be laid on their back (on a hard surface). So, how is it possible to give CPR to someone whose hands are tied behind their back? You can't even lay the victim flat on her back because hands are behind her back. I imagine people trained in CPR would have cut the cord holding the hands behind back first before giving CPR.

Your comments are true, but it's not always possible to get the person flat on their back
& on a hard surface. You just do the best you can in any situation.

If rigor mortis had set in, as I believe it had, cutting the cord wouldn't have done any good,
in order to move her arms to her sides. After cutting the cord, the arms would still be locked behind her back.

If rigor had set in, the EMT's (or whoever responded) would not have initiated CPR.

 

[jjenny]

Your comments are true, but it's not always possible to get the person flat on their back & on a hard surface. You just do the best you can in any situation.

If rigor mortis had set in, as I believe it had, cutting the cord wouldn't have done any good, in order to move her arms to her sides.

If rigor had set in, the EMT's (or whoever responded) would not have initiated CPR

Well maybe they didn't initiate CPR.
Especially if she was already in rigor they wouldn't.

 

[kljohnson0458]

Not to be argumentative, but I don't believe the police said she was not hogtied. At the press conference, he said, she didn't APPEAR to be. IMO, that doesn't mean that she wasn't hogtied at some point.

What is your explanation as to why her legs are bent in the position they are?

Honestly I wasn't there and can't explain the position of her body. Maybe the perp position her body??????I

ETA: If AS cut her down as he says, maybe he picked her up and naturally the legs would bend and placed her on the ground. I will wait for the answer. Patient as I can be. LOL

 

[elementry]

I am very troubled by the fact that Max's sister was whisked away immediately after the accident to SC. Why? Wouldn't she stay for the funeral? Something is not at all right with this picture.

One of the two possible witnesses to what happened to the son. Also, exiting her from the premises where a day or two later an R or X-rated suicide/(murder?) was to occur. Hmmm......

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I am very troubled by the fact that Max's sister was whisked away immediately after the accident to SC. Why? Wouldn't she stay for the funeral? Something is not at all right with this picture.

According to HLN yesterday, it wasn't MS's sister is was RN's sister that was there when he fell and it was RN's sister that made the 911 call for that fall.

 

[elementry]

Sorry to quote myself...

The reason I'm wondering is that could it explain some of the rumors of JS' behavior and the reported DV with DS? For example, could any of the cosmetic enhancement treatments contain steroids or any other substances that cause violent/abusive behavior (a la "roid rage")? I'm asking in the context of the former JS/DS marriage, the JS/RN live-in relationship, family dynamics, and RN's death.

And then there is the alleged alcohol issue (with JS). I'm sure we all know "happy drunks" and those that are not so happy (understatement) when they are under the influence, IYKWIM.

In re: the counterclaims of abuse between JS and DS:

"Weeks later, in a formal letter to Chief John Bennett of the Paradise Valley Police Department dated Jan. 26, Jonah wrote Dina previously filed “false and misleading reports” about bruises on her body stemming from contact with their dog.

“Importantly,” Shacknai wrote, "Dina has been treated medically for years for a bruising disorder, whereby the slightest contact with an object or other material causes bruises. This information can certainly be verified medically.”..........

Btw, I looked up possible side effects of Restylane and didn't find what you mentioned, about steroidal based psychological effects; but did repeatedly find the mention that a side effect was noticeable bruising.

Still, there's a universe of other drug choices available that could cause erratic or impulsive behavior. JS likely had access to it all.

 

[Paladine]

I agree, I'm not sure the reports are true. Nonetheless...if he did lay her face up, why would her legs be bent?

In my mind, from the images, it makes more sense that he did lay her face down and they tried to roll her over, otherwise, I just don't see her legs being bent at all, unless rigor had set in. If she wasn't in rigor, I believe they would have laid her on her back, legs straight out, etc. like you are supposed to do to render CPR.

Don't mean to keep going round and round about it, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

RBBM

Lol...I'm putting the hogtied issue to bed for now, too. Not enough info, imo, to support EITHER position definitively. But, hey, I'm on the 'WAS hogtied or otherwise restrained' before death category...mark me in. And I'll leave it alone. Until there's more info ...:fence:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Honestly I wasn't there and can't explain the position of her body. Maybe the perp position her body??????

Exactly. None of us know the particulars or what the investigation showed once they arrived upon the scene. We really have no clue exactly what the medics did or didn't do when arriving either.

We really don't know the 'rope' in question was an electrical cord (that came from the media) or some other type of makeshift rope used. We don't know if rigor was present or not when LE first arrived. During a LE investigation the body is not removed for many hours. We have no idea how long Rebecca had laid there until the media helicopter arrived and took the aerial view.

Is it possible when she jumped over the balcony that the rope began to sag some from the weight and it pitched her body more to one side and that is how one of her legs became crooked because it rested on the ground some? Possible, imo but we just don't know because we have no clue how long she had been dead when found.

We haven't been on those grounds......talked to LE or know what they know or showed them what was found where and what a person did once finding her.

We are only left to guess because LE isn't going to disclose any of those particulars to the media in an ongoing investigation.

IMO