Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #4

[4Jacy]

Hi everyone - this is my first post! I too have been fascinated by this case. I have to say that I am of the mind that Rebecca did commit suicide. My thought is that she received a call from JS that Tuesday night that Max was brain dead and that they were going to do an MRI the next morning to confirm, but that essentially at that point it was known that he would not survive. I think it is also possible that JS either behaved as if he was done with her or that he actually said as much...telling her to pack her bags and get out. Even if he accepted that Max's death was the result of an accident, it is such an enormous tragedy that he decided he wouldn't be able to get past it. This news combined with Rebecca's guilt and grief over the death of a loved child drove her to commit suicide in a dramatic and violent manner, probably to send a message and to illustrate her guilt.

DS and JS were, at that point, probably awake for over 30 hours straight and emotionally devastated. I cannot see either of them mustering the strength to either perform or arrange for a murder at that time.


When you look at the overhead photos, it seems clear to me that the table was pulled over to the brick walkway from the grassy area to get Rebecca down. Why would anyone keep a table in that location? It was probably the first thing AS spotted that could allow him to reach her body, so he grabbed it and dragged it to that location.

This is IMO, of course...but to me seems the most realistic scenario, given the current information.

Welcome, gemvt! I totally disagree with your theory, but we can agree to disagree, right? I just don't think, being the type of woman Rebecca was, that she would have allowed herself to be seen in such a horrible and gross way. To me this seems like a rage killing.

Also, WHY did AS go to CA? What help was he actually to JS? And when did AS tell his realtor he was going back out on the tugboat? :waitasec:

There are so many questions yet not answered, we need more evidence to be revealed.

 

[defense101]

I don't trust anything the media writes because each puts its own spin on it. obmama - do u have a video link to the police chief's statement? I trust the videos of where I can actually see & hear what LE is saying and the radioreference archives that was posted several pages up.

Its here, below the first video move the videos along and it will show the press conference. http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/...mansion-owners-son-girlfriend?redirected=true

 

[mentalsolstice]

It must have been brought from somewhere else. There are no chairs with the table. Or any I can see in the courtyard...unless it was somewhere near the guest house. I think there was a matching chair on the front porch of the mansion.

Also, RN may have put the table there to stand on before she "hung" herself or AS could have moved it.

Someone said quite awhile back that it was weathered teak. It also appears to have a "broken plank".

Actually somewhere back in the thread there was picture of an Adirondack chair that was the same color and had the same weathered look. It appeared to me that it was tucked back on the patio (against the wall) and underneath the balcony.

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Hi everyone - this is my first post! I too have been fascinated by this case. I have to say that I am of the mind that Rebecca did commit suicide. My thought is that she received a call from JS that Tuesday night that Max was brain dead and that they were going to do an MRI the next morning to confirm, but that essentially at that point it was known that he would not survive. I think it is also possible that JS either behaved as if he was done with her or that he actually said as much...telling her to pack her bags and get out. Even if he accepted that Max's death was the result of an accident, it is such an enormous tragedy that he decided he wouldn't be able to get past it. This news combined with Rebecca's guilt and grief over the death of a loved child drove her to commit suicide in a dramatic and violent manner, probably to send a message and to illustrate her guilt.

DS and JS were, at that point, probably awake for over 30 hours straight and emotionally devastated. I cannot see either of them mustering the strength to either perform or arrange for a murder at that time.

When you look at the overhead photos, it seems clear to me that the table was pulled over to the brick walkway from the grassy area to get Rebecca down. Why would anyone keep a table in that location? It was probably the first thing AS spotted that could allow him to reach her body, so he grabbed it and dragged it to that location.

This is IMO, of course...but to me seems the most realistic scenario, given the current information.

Welcome to WS!

:welcome:

 

[arielilane]

During that week, I don't think there was a lot of hatred towards Rebecca, with the exception of one person. Suicide is a selfish act.

 

[arielilane]

Welcome gemvt!

 

[time]

It must have been brought from somewhere else. There are no chairs with the table. Or any I can see in the courtyard...unless it was somewhere near the guest house. I think there was a matching chair on the front porch of the mansion.

Also, RN may have put the table there to stand on before she "hung" herself or AS could have moved it.

Someone said quite awhile back that it was weathered teak. It also appears to have a "broken plank".

Don't know if this is accurate or not, but a while back I posted that someone on another forum said the table under the balcony was not there is in early coverage but was moved there later.

 

[MizStery]

Welcome to the forum gemt. I am also totally immersed in this story. This is now my virtual home and you are all my virtual friends. I am worried about Palidine we have not heard from her since yesterday. What if??? Under the guise of a BD dinner her family carried out a Websleuths sleuthing 12step type intervention ...because of her fixation with this case. My husband has been eying me with a worried expression as I sit with my iPad reading and refreshing the page. I am afraid he might be thinking of a Websleuths sleuthing 12step intervention for me. This case has not made me.:crazy: yet.

 

[obmama]

Bolded by me. Come to think of it - how could one be "normal, fine" after having a child fall and in the hospital under your watch.

Exactly! Either . . .
*RN's sister is in denial (understandable)?
*RN was in a calm state, often the case when a suicidal person finds a solution?
*RN acted "fine" and said she'd call "tomorrow" to make it look like murder, out of anger or shame?

It's never been made clear who initiated the phone call, RN or her sister?

 

[justice be served]

Welcome, gemvt! I totally disagree with your theory, but we can agree to disagree, right? I just don't think, being the type of woman Rebecca was, that she would have allowed herself to be seen in such a horrible and gross way. To me this seems like a rage killing.

Also, WHY did AS go to CA? What help was he actually to JS? And when did AS tell his realtor he was going back out on the tugboat? :waitasec:

There are so many questions yet not answered, we need more evidence to be revealed.

4Jacy - I think you bring up some good questions about AS. I would add the following as well:
1-Was AS close to JS as a brother/confident?
2-Would JS's inner circle/family expect or find it to be a normal thing that AS would come to town as support after MS's accident?
3-If the answer is yes to 1 and 2 above, did AS then remain close to his brother after yet a second tragedy happened or did he head back out of town?

 

[Theforeigner]

I agree with several other that suicide is not likely because:

1.Woman VERY seldome choose hanging when they comit suicide.

2.The fact that electrical cord was used to hang her and tie her feet and hands IMO point to that somone, who did NOT belong to the household , bound and hung her, because it IMO point to that it was what was on hand "here and now". If RN had decided to commited suicide by hanging I belive she would have found or bought some rope, and that she would have done it away from the house or at least INSIDE the house, and definitley NOT naked.

3. I would assume that RN or her fiance JB had sleeping pills or other drugs avaible in the house that she could have used to commit suicide so WHY choose hanging? and naked, outside hanging from a balcony?

4. Why no suicide note? why no last text message to a loved one? expressing her remorse and sorrow if unbearable remorse was her motive?

5. If she was THAT devastated, why was she "normal" the evening before when she talked to her sister by phone?

I just can not phantom that this was a suicide.

 

[peace9274]

Welcome to the forum gemt. I am also totally immersed in this story. This is now my virtual home and you are all my virtual friends. I am worried about Palidine we have not heard from her since yesterday. What if??? Under the guise of a BD dinner her family carried out an 12step type intervention ...because of her fascination with this case. My husband has been eying me with a worried expression as I sit with my iPad reading and refreshing the page. I am afraid he might be thinking of a 12step intervention for me. This case has not made me.:crazy: yet.

LOL @ MizStery!


:welcome:
gemvt, to WS!

:greetings:

 

[Carrington]

Of all places, Rebecca Nalepa's x-husband Neil J Nalepa's native area is Long Island, NY.
At least he graduated in 1993 from High School in Centereach, NY (Long Island) and he has several older relatives on Long island.
ALL his own and his relatives Long island addresses are located in Nassau and Suffolk county.


I´m NOT saying that NJN is connected to the Long Island Serial killer case, I just found it kind of interesting him beeing a native of the two Long Island counties, Nassau and Suffolk, right were the Long island Seral killer case is taking place.

I have a list of the towns in which NJN have listed addresses as well as his relatives. If it´s alowed to post them, and someone want me to post them, please let me know.
I will NOT post street addresses or names, just towns.

She has close friends all over the place,” says Zahau-Loehner. “She was a person who wasn’t afraid to move. If she thinks there is a better chance for her career, she wasn’t afraid to move to another city. She was in Phoenix only the last four years. She was in California and New York.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ebecca-zahau-incident-remains-mysterious.html

 

[CuriousAmazon]

RN used to attend Calvary Chapel Island of Grace when she lived on Long Island. Someone asked about her religious beliefs. They are having a memorial service for her today. RIP Becky.

 

[CuriousAmazon]

Beautiful Pics of RN, posted by church members.

 

[peace9274]

Beautiful Pics of RN, posted by church members.

Wow! Thanx, CuriousAmazon, for posting the above photos for us to see.
And for informing us of the memorial service at the church she used to attend, with her ex.

 

[jjenny]

Inobu, I came here because I was interested in this case and valued everyone's thoughts & opinions. I also value your thoughts & perspective and hope this is NOT your last post.

I've been around Asians all my life and taking what her family says about her religion and when she came to this country from Burma, etc... I feel she would not have committed suicide in the NUDE in this Manner. If she wanted not to upset her family with her phone call the night before, well she didn't think about how finding her in this manner would greatly upset her family and bring shame on the family. That's just me speaking based on my cultural experiences.

In the photos of her we have seen so far, while she is super fit, and the clothing she wears are form fitting, they are not super revealing. So, I agree, why would she kill herself in the nude and outside? It has to be extremely rare for a woman to commit suicide naked and outside-has it ever happened before at all?

 

[obmama]

BBM - ITA! I'm just waiting for LE to officially rule suicide. No matter what, that's what they are going to say.

I like to think not. I can't imagine the medical examiner and three different law enforcement agencies engaged in a cover-up.

Not saying it's impossible. Prior to founding Medicis, JS worked in various government positions, including for DEA. I doubt his big pharm's rapid success in a relatively short period of time was not without a little help from his connections.

Another thing to consider is Medicis stock. I don't know its current position, but it dropped a few points after the news of RN's death. If he was charged with murder, would it mean the death of his company? Shareholders would lose millions.

It's not as if he has immediate family there to run the company. If he had any idea he was a suspect, he'd probably sell out. Last month, he transferred $5 million into a trust fund for his kids. Two weeks ago, he sold and bought back shares in his company, profiting $1.5 million in a day.

Would he get away with murder for economic reasons? I don't know.

 

[MsFacetious]

Of all places, Rebecca Nalepa's x-husband Neil J Nalepa's native area is Long Island, NY.
At least he graduated in 1993 from High School in Centereach, NY (Long Island) and he has several older relatives on Long island.
ALL his own and his relatives Long island addresses are located in Nassau and Suffolk county.


I´m NOT saying that NJN is connected to the Long Island Serial killer case, I just found it kind of interesting him beeing a native of the two Long Island counties, Nassau and Suffolk, right were the Long island Seral killer case is taking place.

I have a list of the towns in which NJN have listed addresses as well as his relatives. If it´s alowed to post them, and someone want me to post them, please let me know.
I will NOT post street addresses or names, just towns.

That's interesting... because this occurred to me last night.

Right after it occurred to me that Adam is from Memphis.

As in 2 hours from Holly Bobo.

Not to mention a few other young ladies.

It just hit me when I was standing there... freaked me out. :waitasec:

This video shows RS's who is AS's leasing agent neighbor. He discusses the conversation with AS. The video is on this webpage. http://www.wmctv.com/story/15091608...others-san-diego-mansion?clienttype=printable

The reporter states that AS called RS during the interview to say "police are interrogating him about the death of his brother's girlfriend"..."but don't worry I didn't have anything to do with it."

Why did Adam feel the need to call him in the first place?

It isn't like they were going to meet for dinner and Adam had to call and say "Hey, I'm going to have to cancel... my brother's girlfriend kinda died and they are interrogating me about it... but don't worry, I didn't have anything to do with it."

He just called him to tell him that, just because?
Did he happen to mention his nearly dead nephew?
Or did that warrant it's own phone call earlier? :waitasec:

If he never called to tell the guy about Max, but only called to tell him he was being interrogated about a crime he didn't commit...
I would find that rather unusual and abnormal... :waitasec:


That immediately made me think of Nikki Halpin's killer... calling someone during questioning. I can't find an article that talks about this specific part of the case. But while detectives were interviewing him at his home... he called his girlfriend. He told her that he was the main suspect.

He also told her that Nikki had been hit in the head, that she had not been raped and that her boys were not injured. All information that had not been released.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/01/09/Northpinellas/A_light_in_darkness.shtml


This one does talk about the 911 call and how you can hear him talking to her on it.

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/01/21/Northpinellas/Man_indicted_in_bruta.shtml


This episode talked about it... "No Safe Harbor" Season 2, Episode 6

http://press.discovery.com/us/id/programs/nighmare-next-door/

 

[cleo612]

I concur..hehehe.

And this statement may be upsetting to some..but some dogs have good sense. If JS was the dogs master and she was yelling at JS ..dog bite.

My dogs would do it in a New York second. Animals are protective.

Now if the dog bit her when she was being a sweetie pie..then that is a whole different issue.

Decades ago (yikes!) when I was a young pre-teen, our family had a sweet little dog. She had the best temperament, was loving to all of my family members...until voices were raised. She stood less than 2 feet tall--she was a Chihuahua-Dachshound mix.

If my mother felt a need to yell at one of my siblings or me, Lucky would spring into action and go on the attack towards my mother. Mom learned quickly that if she wanted to yell at one of us, she either had to put Lucky outside or lock her in a bedroom; if she didn't take those actions, Lucky would jump up and start biting at my mother's arms and legs. Lucky would do the same thing towards anyone who raised their voice--whether it was me or a sibling, or a perfect stranger. The person who was speaking with a raised voice was putting themselves at risk in Lucky's presence.

I can easily see the Shacknai family dog going on the attack to whomever was speaking with a raised voice. I do not believe that their dog had been told to attack Dina; from all accounts Dina was yelling at Jonah and that is when the dog attacked Dina. Their dog sounds just like my dog, Lucky.