Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #4

[oceanblueeyes]

Here it is. My thanx to Lauriej!

Thanks, Peace.

Where is the broken leg supposed to be in the first photo? I don't see a 30'" or longer piece of wood that would represent the table leg?

And the second photo shows one leg on the front and back on the left side and one on the front on the right side but the back leg is blocked from view. If there was no leg on the back then the officer's leg would go underneath the table when he carried it but as you see his thigh is outside of the table and leg area.

 

[peace9274]

Thanks, Peace.

Where is the broken leg supposed to be in the first photo? I don't see a 30'" or longer piece of wood that would represent the table leg?

My guess is: After the rescue attempt, the broken-leg table was
moved from under the balcony to where it is in the top photo.

It may have broken off while AS was standing on it, attempting to cut RN from the balcony.
Then it was set back upright, on it's 3 legs, with the 4th leg still under the balcony & out of the photo... (???)

 

[nanny2five]

i have been looking hard at the pic peace posted above (only because the horrid part is blurred) and i think the blue thing is a piece of the neck stabilization device.
also this, nobody go on a wild link chase, just if anybody remembers, did the LE say RN was bound with those orange extension cords or did he just say electric cord? imo it makes a difference. if it was orange extension cords then pferrin made some very valid points about how and why it would be difficult for her to tie herself up with those. on the other hand, if it was electric cord, maybe from a lamp or something, she would be more likely to be able to manage that herself imo. fwiw it looks to me like something bright orange around her arm, but i cant tell for sure since its so blurry.

 

[nanny2five]

Thanks, Peace.

Where is the broken leg supposed to be in the first photo? I don't see a 30'" or longer piece of wood that would represent the table leg?

And the second photo shows one leg on the front and back on the left side and one on the front on the right side but the back leg is blocked from view. If there was no leg on the back then the officer's leg would go underneath the table when he carried it but as you see his thigh is outside of the table and leg area.

i don't see a broken piece in the first photo either, ocean, but in the second one you can see right on the front where the leg is broken off. i believe the table is broken, but if it was broken in the incident then the leg should be on the ground and i don't see it.

 

[peace9274]

Regarding the blue item shown next to RN's neck:
There are other photos of her that are not blurred.
In those, it looks to me as though it's a scarf around
her neck & may have been used to gag/silence her.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Did anyone do a screen shot before the media blurred her body almost completely out?

tia

IMO

 

[obmama]

i saw that he said their last discussion was about a joint credit card but i didn't see that i was about the bill. don't chase the link tho, i am reading backwards so i should run into it. if i do i will send it down

It was a local (San Diego) news video, I believe Thursday, the day after RN's death. I don't have the link. He said she changed, wanting a life of luxury. Said they spoke the week before about a joint credit card.

I also find it odd he didn't file for divorce until mid-2010, when she'd been living with JS for approximately 1 1/2 years.

He obviously isn't rolling in money. Her situation changed drastically, and she was. I can't imagine JS approving a joint credit card between the two. She betrayed NN, how can she be sure he wouldn't do the same by maxing out a credit card and leaving her with the bill.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

i don't see a broken piece in the first photo either, ocean, but in the second one you can see right on the front where the leg is broken off. i believe the table is broken, but if it was broken in the incident then the leg should be on the ground and i don't see it.

Thank you.

Yes that was what I was looking for and dont see it on the ground anywhere. If it broke off or came loose then the table leg should be around three feet long imo.

Thanks for helping me everyone. It is confusing to me when the angle of the shots can distort the photo.

IMO

 

[peace9274]

Did anyone do a screen shot before the media blurred her body almost completely out?

tia

IMO

I didn't screen shot any unblurred photos, but I did look at them several times & studied them
at length. They were from a different angle than the blurred ones that I just re-posted above.

The unblurred photos were posted very early on... they may still be on the 1st thread & within the
first few pages. In those unblurred photos, you can see her legs bent & arms still behind/under her.

I also keep saying that if she hanged herself, her legs would be straightened. That is unless, the rope
stretched and she slumped into a semi kneeling position on the ground or onto the table.

But in the unblurred photos, you can also see that her legs are tied, but not close together...
which keeps taking me back to the theory that she died while sitting in & tied to a chair. KWIM???

I'll see if I can find them.

 

[nanny2five]

Did anyone do a screen shot before the media blurred her body almost completely out?

tia

IMO

i think there are some in the first thread, ocean. i am going back to see if i can find out exactly what was said about the cords. if i find an unblurred pic i will send it down.

 

[nanny2five]

MS had been in a medically induced coma since the accident. He wasn't breathing when EMT's arrived, and may have suffered irreversible brain damage due to lack of oxygen. He had an MRI scheduled Wednesday morning, the morning of RN's death, presumably to confirm what doctors suspected after two days of observation, that he was "brain dead".

RN spoke to her sister at midnight, I assume 10 p.m. PST, and said RN was "normal, fine" and planned to call the next day with an update on Max's condition. It's likely RN got the bad news after speaking to her sister.

Whether JS blamed her, or she blamed herself, I believe it was motive for suicide. I'm inclined to believe he blamed her, and she saw her future ruined.

bbm i am so in the middle right now. i don't know what to think. the clues that we have are all over the place with nothing pointing definitively in any one direction. it would be so easy for me to believe it was suicide, under the circumstances, but the way it was done just does not add up to me.

 

[nanny2five]

I didn't screen shot any unblurred photos, but I did look at them several times & studied them
at length. They were from a different angle than the blurred ones that I just re-posted above.

The unblurred photos were posted very early on... they may still be on the 1st thread & within the
first few pages. In those unblurred photos, you can see her legs bent & arms still behind/under her.

I also keep saying that if she hanged herself, her legs would be straightened. That is unless, the rope
stretched and she slumped into a semi kneeling position on the ground or onto the table.

But in the unblurred photos, you can also see that her legs are tied, but not close together...
which keeps taking me back to the theory that she died while sitting in & tied to a chair. KWIM???

I'll see if I can find them.

bbm if that was the case and rope stretched and she was semi kneeling, then why would AS need to "cut her down" and also would they have said she was "hanging"? i think there is another explanation for the position of her legs. i don't know what that explanation is.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I want to thank everyone again for trying to help me understand the photos more.

I just think we are missing something.

If Adam's story just didn't add up why would LE a week later tell a local reporter they were leaning toward a suicide and saying there is documentation that people do bind their hands and feet up before they commit suicide? On a link already posted.

It just seems to me these 15 homicide detectives would know if what Adam said rang true based on the scene.

The problem we have with really no sound conclusive evidence of what happened or how Adam cut her down.

Yet, Adam is allowed to leave and go back to his home very early after Rebecca's death. His story had to make sense to LE about what he found and what he did.

IMO

 

[nanny2five]

I want to thank everyone again for trying to help me understand the photos more.

I just think we are missing something.

If Adam's story just didn't add up why would LE a week later tell a local reporter they were leaning toward a suicide and saying there is documentation that people do bind their hands and feet up before they commit suicide? On a link already posted.

It just seems to me these 15 homicide detectives would know if what Adam said rang true based on the scene.

The problem we have with really no sound conclusive evidence of what happened or how Adam cut her down.

Yet, Adam is allowed to leave and go back to his home very early after Rebecca's death. His story had to make sense to LE about what he found and what he did.

IMO

bbm i totally agree with you that AS being allowed to leave and return home would tend to take him off of the suspect list, if it even was a murder. on the other hand, it is possible that LE suspects AS of something but they cannot just tell him to stay in california when his home and job is in another state. of course we have all heard of LE telling someone to "not leave the area" but how long can they keep a person away from their home without charging them or even declaring the death a murder. and if AS is actually the one who got a lawyer, maybe it wasn't to defend him in a murder, but simply to protect his right to go home?

 

[Theforeigner]

Of all places, Rebecca Nalepa's x-husband Neil J Nalepa's native area is Long Island, NY.
At least he graduated in 1993 from High School in Centereach, NY (Long Island) and he has several older relatives on Long island.
ALL his own and his relatives Long island addresses are located in Nassau and Suffolk county.


I´m NOT saying that NJN is connected to the Long Island Serial killer case, I just found it kind of interesting him beeing a native of the two Long Island counties, Nassau and Suffolk, right were the Long island Seral killer case is taking place.

I have a list of the towns in which NJN have listed addresses as well as his relatives. If it´s alowed to post them, and someone want me to post them, please let me know.
I will NOT post street addresses or names, just towns.

 

[nanny2five]

She was nude and her hands and feet were bound with electric wires. it does't say what kind of electric wires.

from this article: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/182...ens-pharmaceutical-jonah-girl-friend-fath.htm

 

[defense101]

BBM

---there have been a few replies based on this statement ----attributing it to adam as what he said during his 911 call

---i was just taking another listen to the press conference-------that's not what captain curran says at all.

curran----"At approx. 06:48 hrs. yesterday morning units from the coronado police department went to that address in response to a 911 call. The reporting party , later identified as adam shaknai told the responding officers that he had found nalepa with a rope around her neck, and hanging from a balcony off the main house.

When the Coronado units arrived at the scene, they located a female on the property who appeared to be deceased."

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/...mansion-owners-son-girlfriend?redirected=true
--press conference--

That is what AS told responding officers. If you go further into the press conference video during the reporters questions about the 911 call this is what he says. "That there was a woman on the property and that she appeared to be dead".

 

[jjenny]

I want to thank everyone again for trying to help me understand the photos more.

I just think we are missing something.

If Adam's story just didn't add up why would LE a week later tell a local reporter they were leaning toward a suicide and saying there is documentation that people do bind their hands and feet up before they commit suicide? On a link already posted.

It just seems to me these 15 homicide detectives would know if what Adam said rang true based on the scene.

The problem we have with really no sound conclusive evidence of what happened or how Adam cut her down.

Yet, Adam is allowed to leave and go back to his home very early after Rebecca's death. His story had to make sense to LE about what he found and what he did.

IMO

I do not believe LE has a right to tell someone where to go or not to go.

 

[obmama]

until autopsy comes in it will be difficult perhaps impossible to figure wheither RN died before or after she was hanged.

The autopsy is in, just sealed. So, LE involved with the case are in the know. The Coronado police chief made a statement that there was no evidence of criminal activity. He went as far as saying, "that leaves suicide." That's when RN's sister spoke out and said her sister would NEVER take her own life.

I presume he said this because nothing was discovered in the autopsy that pointed to foul play. Unless, it was to throw off the killer, if it is indeed a murder.

 

[scorekeeper]

BBM

I think whoever killed RN, whether herself or someone else,
s/he knew that MS was brain dead & was still on life support until organ recipients &/OR more family members arrived.

As a nurse, I've seen it happen for both situations.

I'm catching up from last night.
BBM
I have wondered if the parents knew on Monday that due to the severity of MS's injuries he was already brain dead. I would think it would be SOP to repeat testing in a couple of days to re-confirm condition (would make that Wed). This also give parents/family time to come to terms with child's condition and to discuss options. If RN was at the hospital on Monday and Tuesday, I'm sure she was well aware of MS's condition and that they were running more test on Wed............things could have been said/implied at the hospital to make RN feel responsible or she could have overheard conversations. If no change in his condition and family knew the outcome from Wed testing was not going to positive, did the angry build and build?
Did someone demand answers from RN?

I am having a really hard time accepting suicide due to the violent scene.