Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #4

[pferrin]

I am with Tim Curran on the suicide description...people can be creative when commiting suicide. Brother looked and started telling me about how creative folks can be. He agreed about hands and feet bound..they do find folks that have done that.

He said in his experience women that have commited suicide in the nude have done so in the shower or bath..women want to save someone from having to clean up mess. Of course in those cases..the hands and feet were not bound.

Also Maxies fall could lend itself to RN thinking suicide..however her conversation with her sis and hearing that she was supportive to folks in her life rules that out for me. She would have wanted to be helpful during time of need.

Paladine I do agree that most likely AS would not act without JS approval..however sometimes a demented mind might think they are being helpful. IMO

 

[peace9274]

<snipped>
it's my BD today, I hate BD's...but I gotta go out w/the kids and act happy, lol

arty:arty:arty:
:Happybirthday::Happybirthday::Happybirthday:
:bdsong::bdsong::bdsong:

 

[Lovejac]

I wonder who the other clients are of that PR team that was hired? Media clients, perhaps? As soon as that PR team was hired, it was like a faucet turned OFF! No info. Something to sleuth...it's my BD today, I hate BD's...but I gotta go out w/the kids and act happy, lol...or I'd search myself...

ALL IMO

Happy Birthday, Paladine!!!

arty::bdsong::bdsurprise::bdscroll:

 

[arielilane]

I wonder who the other clients are of that PR team that was hired? Media clients, perhaps? As soon as that PR team was hired, it was like a faucet turned OFF! No info. Something to sleuth...it's my BD today, I hate BD's...but I gotta go out w/the kids and act happy, lol...or I'd search myself...

ALL IMO

LOL! Happy Birthday, Paladine! :great:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I wonder who the other clients are of that PR team that was hired? Media clients, perhaps? As soon as that PR team was hired, it was like a faucet turned OFF! No info. Something to sleuth...it's my BD today, I hate BD's...but I gotta go out w/the kids and act happy, lol...or I'd search myself...

ALL IMO

Well I hate that you hate birthdays Paladine but I always say...'it sure beats the alternative!" lol:woohoo:

Have a wonderful great birthday and be proud that you have those who love you and want to make you happy! Just relax and enjoy it all!

IMO

 

[Paladine]

deleted; repeat

 

[arielilane]

Thank you.

In any official autopsy report the toxicology report is always listed within the official report. Remember they did the same thing with Michael Jackson's autopsy report?

They are different reports because the ME sends them out to a lab to be tested and the lab sends them back to the ME showing the results of what was found and the amounts found of certain drugs. Then the ME encapsulates them into the official AR.

IMO

I did not care to read MJ's autopsy report. LOL

 

[scorekeeper]

To All:

Any thoughts on why they could rule his hanging death a suicide before tox results and we need tox results before they rule one way or the other on Rebecca?

No evidence of violence or bizarre situation? Based on scene, was obvious that he took him own life......

RIP...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes, results sealed, no link, take it for what its worth, lol...

This convinces me I have just kept up with too many cases over the years.:floorlaugh:

It isn't uncommon at all that AR are sealed during an ongoing investigation. Once something breaks the media will go to the Judge and request that they be released. The Judge can still seal them if the prosecutor convinces the Judge that the facts in the AR would impede their criminal case if they arrested anyone for this.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I did not care to read MJ's autopsy report. LOL

LOL! I just mentioned his because it was also in California.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

No evidence of violence or bizarre situation? Based on scene, was obvious that he took him own life......

RIP...

You are right but the ME does want to know if he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time because often suicide victims are and it would maybe make it more understandable that it was a compulsive decision because of being under the influence.

IMO

 

[Inobu]

oceanblueeyes

1. Cut down the body to revive her.

A hanging by the neck is graphic. A jump from the balcony would have snapped the neck and left a insightful image of death. Bodily functions occur. The question is who is giving the most accurate account. AS's hanged or LE suspended and LE is looking at the evidence before them?

2. Cut down to revive.

The body still had arms behind the back, scarf around neck and orange tethering. The body was also in a positioned that does not reflect a revival attempt as he stated. His only possible revival method is CPR and the body was not poised for that. Action and motive of revival is questionable. Once you start CPR you do not stop.

3. What do you do?

Cut her down and then call 911 or Call 911 and then cut here down? Place the table on the walkway to cut her down and then call 911. Too many illogical questions for a self inflected suicide and what was the actual sequence of events.

4. As for the tugboat the time line is critical but not defined. If he told the agent that he was going to the tugboat but had a ticket to San Diego then that is a questionable comment. Only the agent can clarify. Then the question is Why lie about it? That's my only point. If the event occurred before his notification then it pans out if not you need to understand why?

It is about validating peoples creditability.

Him moving the body compromised the scene in the beginning.

 

[pferrin]

I love Dr Voss. He made study of dead bodies sound interesting and besides he is cute. :crazy::crazy:

 

[jjenny]

You are right but the ME does want to know if he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time because often suicide victims are and it would maybe make it more understandable that it was a compulsive decision because of being under the influence.

IMO

Hanging oneself while naked, with hands bound behind back and feet bound just doesn't sound like a compulsive decision, or something a person can physically accomplish if highly intoxicated.

 

[justice be served]

Forgive me if I missed this but has anyone confirmed who the defense lawyer that showed up at the house was actually defending? An earlier post suggested -- and I agree -- that probably JS's business hired the lawyer. Although the lawyer at that time was quoted that he had never met JS, that could certainly have been a true statement at that juncture -- he just had not YET met him. Have I missed any further speculation or fact on who we think hired the lawyer?

 

[scorekeeper]

Happy Birthday, Paladine!!!!

Thank God your children want and can spend time with you on this special day!!

No greater love than family!!

:bdsong::martini:

 

[CuriousAmazon]

Something to sleuth...it's my BD today, I hate BD's...but I gotta go out w/the kids and act happy, lol...or I'd search myself...

ALL IMO

It's your birthday? If it is, happy birthday Paladine!

 

[pferrin]

Forgive me if I missed this but has anyone confirmed who the defense lawyer that showed up at the house was actually defending? An earlier post suggested -- and I agree -- that probably JS's business hired the lawyer. Although the lawyer at that time was quoted that he had never met JS, that could certainly have been a true statement at that juncture -- he just had not YET met him. Have I missed any further speculation or fact on who we think hired the lawyer?

My guess would be JS hired the man..But that is just a guess. I wouldn't think that someone that works on a tugboat and lives in a fairly small apt could afford a high $$$ lawyer.

 

[jjenny]

As I recall the lawyer wasn't even allowed to meet with anyone. I fail to see how that could have possibly happen if JS hired him.

 

[pferrin]

Actually Pfingst could have been hired by DS..He said he was hired by someone connected with this case.. did he ever come out and say he was hired to defend AS??