Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/3/14 Hearing

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  • #641
I don't think anyone is going to come forward for her. I don't envy him trying to find some. If he gets a little extra time to search for just one that doesn't bother me. What I don't get is why her parents won't get up for her. What kind of parents are these people?! Or maybe they are using that to get people to feel bad for her..
The parents were interviewed by Flores in Yreka right after JA's arrest and they had very negative things to say about JA. It's all on the interrogation tapes. Presumably this would make them a liability for the DT.
 
  • #642
Been gone all day, I started working so I won't be able to follow as closely. Can anybody briefly catch me up on what happened today? Or was it much of anything?

Immediate secret sidebar ... sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle-sizzle ... no witnesses til next Wed.

http://www.azcentral.com/videos/news/local/mesa/2014/11/04/18487455/
 
  • #643
Been gone all day, I started working so I won't be able to follow as closely. Can anybody briefly catch me up on what happened today? Or was it much of anything?
Start with watching today's hearing ... :)
 
  • #644
Hasn't the frigging defense had oh maybe 6 years to find dang witnesses????? Come on let's get this done!!!
 
  • #645
Been gone all day, I started working so I won't be able to follow as closely. Can anybody briefly catch me up on what happened today? Or was it much of anything?

It went something like this:
JSS: Call your next witness Mr Nurmi.
KN: No.
Sidebar: JM yelling.
JSS: Okay let's take a week off.
 
  • #646
Been gone all day, I started working so I won't be able to follow as closely. Can anybody briefly catch me up on what happened today? Or was it much of anything?
Sizzlebars[emoji621]. And frustration [emoji49] [emoji35]
 
  • #647
I'm frustrated and disheartened. I had to walk away and really think hard about whether or not I want to follow this trial any more.

I have nothing helpful and true to add to the conversations here, so I transcribed Juan Martinez' words from the AZCentral.com raw video of today's hearing. I liked what he said and I hated everything else.

Juan Martinez

...considerations that the court has to look at in making its decision on whether or not we should proceed on Wednesday, as you indicated, at 10:00. The first one is under Rule 19 in the Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure. That sets out the rules that gives you, the judge, the discretion to order the defendant to go forward. I believe that you should exercise that discretion. We actually even advised the jury of the order of the proceedings that is contained or set out in the Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure.

The thing that should not be lost in this argument of whether or not we should proceed in this sort of “star chamber” approach to things is the victims’ rights. The victims also have a constitutional right to continue. One of the things that I indicated to the Court of Appeals yesterday was that, when they were talking about the Stay, I opposed the Stay should proceed. The reason that I cited was that the victims have a right to continue with these proceedings. Somehow their constitutional rights have not been addressed by defense counsel’s request.

The other thing that we must consider is that we have a jury that has been impaneled—a jury that has been told that they are to serve until the 18th of December.

These are all factors that must be considered by you in deciding whether or not we should take the defendant’s position that we are not going to go forward just because they received a ruling that they did not like. And whether they like it or not—and they’re saying it’s not a ruling on the merits—it’s still an order of a higher court that says, “It is ordered staying the enforcement of the Superior Court’s ruling of October 30th which closed the courtroom to the public.”

It did not stay these particular proceedings, and what they are asking you to do is stay these proceedings. They didn’t ask you in so many words, but that is what they’re asking you to do.

I am requesting that you not follow their request and that you not stay the rest of the proceedings in this case. The rules are there for everybody to follow and it appears that in this particular case, because of a ruling they did not like, they are holding this process hostage. They are saying, “Just because we received a ruling that we did not like, we are now going to try to sabotage the process until some time later on down the road.”

We know there are witnesses who could be called. There was also that witness who was on the witness stand who can be called on Wednesday.

There is no reason why we cannot proceed and I ask that you look at and consider Rule 19, victims’ rights, and the fact that the jury is already impaneled and have been told that we are going to be here until December 18th. In light of those things, and in light of the ruling that only talks to the issue of whether or not we are going to close the proceedings, I ask that we proceed—as you indicated—tomorrow, Wednesday, at 10:00.

Thank you.

WTH???????

This means that Juan argued, given the actual state of things, it was not remotely impossible to continue. And yet Judge Stephens chose to stay all proceedings for an entire week, and her reasons are secret. How can this be right?

Also, thank you daisydomino for the transcript. it is very much appreciated!
 
  • #648
  • #649
"We know there are witnesses who could be called. There was also that witness who was on the witness stand who can be called on Wednesday." Juan Martinez. November 4, 2014.

This makes me believe 1000000% that CMJA was the secret witness! She was the witness who was on the stand on Wednesday and since she is already in custody, they could easily put her back up there and complete testimony. JMO

(Thanks Daisy for transcribi)

I just said the same to my sister on the phone.... agree totally !
 
  • #650
I first read that it was the state that called him but then I read that it was the defense that called him to testify. MOO

The report that it was a defense witness was not factual.

1). If he was, we would not know his name as the entire defense witness list is under strict seal and

2). Juan said was going to call him.
 
  • #651
"We know there are witnesses who could be called. There was also that witness who was on the witness stand who can be called on Wednesday." Juan Martinez. November 4, 2014.

This makes me believe 1000000% that CMJA was the secret witness! She was the witness who was on the stand on Wednesday and since she is already in custody, they could easily put her back up there and complete testimony. JMO

(Thanks Daisy for transcribi)

Yup, my thoughts exactly. He said it in a way like, there would be no problem with this person's schedule. Her docket is wide open.
 
  • #652
Nope. They don't work on Friday.

Now, this judge could make an exception and even have them work late, but she would rather have this go to January and inconvenience the jury, who were told Dec 18.

Oh they work on Fridays. Most Courtrooms are dark Fridays. Fridays are generally motion days. Judges hear motions on other cases on their dockets during their dark days.
 
  • #653
I still think the witness from CA is Mr. Vernon Parker. He was TA's and Deanna Reeves' Mormon bishop in Riverside.

If it's not JA herself that is my second guess.
 
  • #654
I just posted a transcript over in the sidebar thread...just a few minutes ago.
 
  • #655
Sometimes things are so IRONIC!

So in Washington State a new Supreme Court Ruling could now overturn dozens of convictions in rape cases. This was because of a case where the prospective jurors were asked in the Judges Chambers if they themselves had ever been raped. The convicted felon is now claiming he was not made aware of his legal rights to object to these questions not being asked in open court.

See video at link:

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/court-ruling-could-overturn-dozens-of-convictions/29535034

You just can't make this stuff up! JSS . . . . seriously the secrets need to stop NOW!!!
 
  • #656
If it's not JA herself that is my second guess.

I don't think he can testify on behalf of something Travis may have said to him. IIRC only the clergy/Bishop can testify in court if the person they were "ministering" to gives their consent to speak about their discussion (ie: JA's Bishop speaking on her behalf with her permission). But I am not an Atty
 
  • #657
She did it.
She planned ahead of time to do it. Big time. Lots and lots of planning.

She has not admitted to anything. Never apologized for any of her deeds. Which are well documented with pictures, for heaven's sake.

I guess normal people just cannot understand evil.
Just because they, would never commit such evil acts, does NOT, mean that others would not.
I personally would like to see her get the death penalty.
it's highly unlikely that she would ever be put to death.

BUT what's important to me, is that she is placed in a strict ward. Where life is not so easy, and she suffers the loss of freedom.
All, this political carp is just carp.

A killer who makes news because they look normal to us Is a killer, nevertheless.

Do a little research. Killers always, look like your innocent neighbors or friends.

Their is no half limbed, toothless monster coming after you.

Nope. But a sicko woman bent on revenge. The Worst monster ever.

















Have you ever googled courgarlicious? She is so crude. Seriously, this whole damned cast of characters from the defense and arias side couldn't be any more coarse and unclassy.

Cougarlicious is the adjective form of the term "cougar"--- a cougar is an older woman (mid-to-late thirties and onward) who is unattached and seeks young males for sex and companionship.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cougarlicious
 
  • #658
Oh they work on Fridays. Most Courtrooms are dark Fridays. Fridays are generally motion days. Judges hear motions on other cases on their dockets during their dark days.

Oh no. I knew that. I meant they don't do this trial on Friday, which they absolutely could do given the circumstances. The jury shouldn't be kept until January. Instead, they should work late and hold this trial on Fridays until it is done. Sometimes, the thoughts in my head don't come out right when I type. I knew what I meant. lol
 
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The report that it was a defense witness was not factual.

1). If he was, we would not know his name as the entire defense witness list is under strict seal and

2). Juan said was going to call him.

The state witness list posted by DGC listed Marsha Parker, the Bishop's wife, as a witness for the state--has D. Vernon Parker been added as well?:confused:
 
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