Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 6 - Part 3

[ElleElle]

Actually, I'd love to see her on the stand, answering JM's questions.

This is a good refresher. "God can't be subpoenaed" is one of my faves. :lol:

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/most-memorable-outrageous-quotes-jodi-arias-trial/

 

[ElleElle]

Just, IMO, but from what I saw on review of the timeline, the first media tweet wondering if JA was testifying was about 15 min. prior to the PIO's first announcement about closing the courtroom (Jen's). Several others posted similar guesses while watching the sidebars, chamber conferences, etc. that were going on. Recess wasn't called until about an hour after the 1st announcement, so this Justus person had over an hour of hearing speculation, etc. before posting, at the earliest. According to one media report, speculation about it ramped up even more while everyone was in the hallway. IMO, this Justus is just another one of the JA supporters who wants to be seen w/inside info, and who takes other's tweets and twists them to JA's advantage. I think they actually believe this is PR work they do for her benefit, but how it actually helps her is a mystery to me. Maybe it sells artwork and bracelets?

While I have my skeptic's hat on, Troy Hayden may have received good info, but I'm still waiting to hear confirmation that JA did indeed testify and caused JSS to close the courtroom. Reporters have been duped before, it's possible, and maybe even planned. As poorly as I think she has conducted this trial, I just can't see any logical reason for JSS going to this extreme for JA. JA clearly loved being the center of attention while she was on the stand last trial, and courts the media whenever she can - that's not the reluctant witness that I'd think a judge would believe had suddenly become shy and fearful. May very well be wrong about all of it, but this is just my thinking for now.

Jodi has been in jail for quite awhile and very likely on meds such as anti-psychotics, mood stabilizers which would tame her down.

I think everyone just wants this case over and done with and JSS calked her and her DTs bluff. Another judge can deal with the media blackout issue.

 

[Mollyandme]

Jodi has been in jail for quite awhile and very likely on meds such as anti-psychotics, mood stabilizers which would tame her down.

I think everyone just wants this case over and done with and JSS calked her and her DTs bluff. Another judge can deal with the media blackout issue.

I don't think there's any medication out there that can hide her evilness. If someone's soul is pure evil as I believe Jodi's soul is, that will come through in her testimony.

 

[janx]

The first leak by Justus that she was testifying, was posted at 12:57pm on a website....does anyone know what timezone that time reflects? Was it AZ time???

2nd reply: Wait! I now think that would have been AZ time, or the equivalent. My guess is that the site reflects Pacific Time, and since AZ doesn't do daylight savings, it would have been the same time.

:blushing:

Not that it matters much. I think this person is a red herring. It's just more speculation from a "fan."

 

[Brattinella]

I think it's time to see a motion from the State accusing DT misconduct!

Can't wait for that!

 

[LinTX]

Jodi has been in jail for quite awhile and very likely on meds such as anti-psychotics, mood stabilizers which would tame her down.

I think everyone just wants this case over and done with and JSS calked her and her DTs bluff. Another judge can deal with the media blackout issue.

You're entitled to your opinion, but seeing JA as improved and tamed enough to not want the spotlight is just another thing to file in my never gonna happen file. It wasn't that long ago she insisted on going pro per so she could abuse her privileges, reaching out to her 'teams', attacking JM, and who knows what else? As for JSS going to this extreme to simply call DT's bluff, I'd say that's highly unlikely. She's a judge, to call a bluff all she needs to do is rule against them. She had to have legal reasons to make that decision and has risked being overturned by higher court - I'm sure she was aware the media would appeal. There is something/someone we don't know, IMO, and JA throwing a temper tantrum just doesn't seem likely to me. What usually happens when a defendant tries that is a gag and being tied to a chair, but if the threat was refusing to testify that would clearly be defendant's choice. JSS said she was filing her reasons for the higher court, and seemed to believe they'd understand and agree. We'll, as usual, have to wait and see.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This is a good refresher. "God can't be subpoenaed" is one of my faves. :lol:

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/most-memorable-outrageous-quotes-jodi-arias-trial/

And JA certainly is glad of that.

There have been so many memorable moments in this trial due to Juan Martinez.

I go back and look/listen when Juan is in action often and still to this day I am mesmerized. Never do I get tired of seeing him over and over again!

 

[LinasK]

2nd reply: Wait! I now think that would have been AZ time, or the equivalent. My guess is that the site reflects Pacific Time, and since AZ doesn't do daylight savings, it would have been the same time.

:blushing:

Not that it matters much. I think this person is a red herring. It's just more speculation from a "fan."

Yes, PST and ?Mountain Time (what Arizona is on) were the same until last night. PST just got off Daylight Savings time at midnight, so now we are one hour behind AZ here in CA.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The "politics" and drama in the courtroom should not sway a good jury.

They should just stick to the facts, and no matter what BS Jodi comes with at this point is too late. She has lied under oath and will continue to given the chance.

A random thought came through my head. Maybe Jodi asked for her family to be removed because she will confess she stole the gun?

Her family already knows she stole the gun and used it against Travis.

Hearing that wouldn't bother them in the least.

imo

 

[Frigga]

I truly don't understand how JA supporters could hate the Alexander family. Do they not realize the case belongs to the State of AZ? And what did the family do to Arias that she didn't do to herself? It's so irrational. I could see, I suppose, being angry at the state, the DA, the judge, the entire court system, but what has TA's family done other than be the victim's relatives, show up every day to court, and hope for justice?

It defies logic, Madeleine.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes, PST and ?Mountain Time (what Arizona is on) were the same until last night. PST just got off Daylight Savings time at midnight, so now we are one hour behind AZ here in CA.

So EST is just two hours ahead of Arizona now instead of three hours?

tia

 

[Frigga]

Rose, they may well have quite a bit to do with how JA turned out. BPD and bi-polar run in my family. It could well run in theirs.

In my opinion, I would be surprised if it didn't.

 

[janx]

so est is just two hours ahead of arizona now instead of three hours?

Tia

yes!!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If Juan didn't argue against the closed courtroom, then he must see through their BS. No doubt Juan ripped/will rip her to shreds. He's done it before. My favorite moments were when he asked her if she was crying while she slit Travis's throat and stabbed and shot him.

We all know Juan doesn't put on airs for the media. He is genuine in every case he tries. So the media nor the gallery being there will not stop him from his intended target. He has a bulls-eye right on Arias' forehead and that is his focus and always has been.

He should ask her : 'Was Travis crying when he knew you were going to kill him?' 'Was he begging for his life when you slit his throat from ear to ear?'

Juan has come to know this murderer so well that I think he can tell which lie she is going to tell even before she thinks of it herself.

IMO

 

[krkrjx]

Last I heard, this "Jodi Arias was testifying" came about when a person accidentally opened the courtroom door and saw her. Has there been any new information regarding how she came to be seen either at the podium or on the stand?

If that is still the prevailing story, I am going back to the secret witness being Alyce LaV. If JA was seen speaking to the jury, she could have been giving her allocution in private as long as the opportunity to do so was available. IOW, her being on the stand or at the podium does not necessarily mean there is or was no other witness demanding to testify under the cloak of secrecy. And for me, the person who would least want to be there but who the DT would most want to be there, is someone who is deemed an expert in their field and who can possibly give JA's lies some substance.

JM would dismantle such testimony but he did that last time very skillfully, yet we came away with a juror who believed TA could have been abusive. And remember, there was absolutely NO documentation of TA abuse; it was claimed by Jodi alone, and backed up by her experts who had never met TA.

 

[LinasK]

Last I heard, this "Jodi Arias was testifying" came about when a person accidentally opened the courtroom door and saw her. Has there been any new information regarding how she came to be seen either at the podium or on the stand?

If that is still the prevailing story, I am going back to the secret witness being Alyce LaV. If JA was seen speaking to the jury, she could have been giving her allocution in private as long as the opportunity to do so was available. IOW, her being on the stand or at the podium does not necessarily mean there is or was no other witness demanding to testify under the cloak of secrecy. And for me, the person who would least want to be there but who the DT would most want to be there, is someone who is deemed an expert in their field and who can possibly give JA's lies some substance.

JM would dismantle such testimony but he did that last time very skillfully, yet we came away with a juror who believed TA could have been abusive. And remember, there was absolutely NO documentation of TA abuse; it was claimed by Jodi alone, and backed up by her experts who had never met TA.

I don't buy that they'd use Alice again. Her credibility was ripped to shreds. I don't believe her testimony is why the Foreman thought Jodi was abused. I think he was swayed by Jodi. And Alice wouldn't want to face Juan again- she had to be hospitalized last time for anxiety.
Besides the integrity of Troy Hayden, the two things that convince me it was Jodi testifying are her putting on her blazer and kicking her family out (because she's throwing them under the bus). She wouldn't kick her family out for anybody else. Besides, although she loves the camera under her circumstances, this way Jodi can't be ripped apart in the media if we don't know what she's saying, so the secrecy gives her more power. And then when the leak is revealed, they'll call mistrial again.
I think Jodi has just this much chutzpah that her side leaked the secret witness. I just read an article in the last day about a woman hit her own personal car with a county vehicle and is suing the county for it!!!

 

[bznbear]

If that is the case then how is she going to sentence Arias to life in prison without parole? Can she sentence a younger woman to spend the rest of her life behind bars? I sure hope so.

I think she's playing it so cautiously now, so she can say she did everything to make sure JA got a fair trial. And that she will feel justified in sentencing her to LWOP. This is merely my opinion, but perhaps she really needs to justify it to herself.

 

[krkrjx]

I don't buy that they'd use Alice again. Her credibility was ripped to shreds. I don't believe her testimony is why the Foreman thought Jodi was abused. I think he was swayed by Jodi. And Alice wouldn't want to face Juan again- she had to be hospitalized last time for anxiety.

It could be someone else just like Alyce, if not her.

ALV's credibility was ripped to shreds but not in front of this jury. This jury does not know so much about what went down in the courtroom during the guilt phase and then the first penalty phase. They will see her with new eyes...hopefully the will see clearly but you never know with a jury.

Who do you think it is? And if you think it's Jodi, what do you think she's saying that she wanted to keep private? Basically refused to say if not in private.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Last I heard, this "Jodi Arias was testifying" came about when a person accidentally opened the courtroom door and saw her. Has there been any new information regarding how she came to be seen either at the podium or on the stand?

If that is still the prevailing story, I am going back to the secret witness being Alyce LaV. If JA was seen speaking to the jury, she could have been giving her allocution in private as long as the opportunity to do so was available. IOW, her being on the stand or at the podium does not necessarily mean there is or was no other witness demanding to testify under the cloak of secrecy. And for me, the person who would least want to be there but who the DT would most want to be there, is someone who is deemed an expert in their field and who can possibly give JA's lies some substance.

JM would dismantle such testimony but he did that last time very skillfully, yet we came away with a juror who believed TA could have been abusive. And remember, there was absolutely NO documentation of TA abuse; it was claimed by Jodi alone, and backed up by her experts who had never met TA.

I really do believe it is the evildoer on the stand. Only she could be this dramatic and controlling, imo.

I think something very serious happened last time when ALV was there. Juan found out something very serious imo. Maybe she was the width of a hair from being charged with perjury. Juan has eluded to it in court.

So I don't think ALV would ever come back to testify for JA.

IMO

 

[krkrjx]

Ok...Has anybody addressed Nurmi's "new look"? Gastric bypass? He is half the size he was!

Yes, many times. He also grew out his hair, which helped almost as much as the weight loss.