RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

  • #941
Hopefully at the press conference we get some really good news like a suspect in custody.

Me too!

But it might just be an update that they are trying to locate a "witness/POI" jsut to let people "know" they have someone in their sight glass.
 
  • #942
My first impression was female. Not sure why, but the hands and feet do seem relatively small on second glance. First impression of the shoes is a work clog. The shoe has a molded arch, and imo a wide, slightly upturned toe. Black pants, black clogs -- possibly kitchen work? JMO.

Dansko clog for reference
 
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  • #944
Hopefully at the press conference we get some really good news like a suspect in custody.

I just got home from a lovely Chanukah party where there were armed guards to keep us safe.

I was hoping that when I got home, there would be some more info revealed. I see the theories above that there are two persons of interest, is that correct? Also that it may be a woman.

So far I don’t really see that, but I know anything is possible. The gait still appears to me to be masculine.

Looking forward to the presser.
 
  • #945
Given the intense publicity, it's odd this guy did not contact police earlier.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but he appears to be a POC. Sadly, POC are often targeted (mistakenly), by LE. We've seen enough true crime to know someone trying to be helpful ends up becoming a POI. I can totally see why he wouldn't go to LE. Plus, maybe he didn't see anything or simply doesn't remember! I know if I'm walking often I'm zoned out in my own thoughts not paying attention.
 
  • #946
7 min ago

Student calls Barus and Holley the "worst building" for shooting to happen​

From CNN’s Maureen Chowdhury and Brian Todd

The Barus and Holley engineering building was likely the worst location for the shooting because it lacks certain security measures found in other buildings on Brown University’s campus, student Joe McGonagle told CNN.

“In particular, though, most of the buildings … they had a lobby that anyone can get into, but after, anywhere you try to go after the lobby, they had a security guard where you had to swipe in. Barus and Holley was one of the only buildings that didn’t have something like that,” McGonagle said, adding that he believes this is because it’s an older building with a different layout.

“The front part of it was actually a cafe, so just anyone could walk in and then you could just walk down the hall, past the cafe, into the lecture halls,” he said, noting that he’s familiar with the building because he has taken exams and attended class in the lecture hall where the shooting happened.

McGonagle said he believes the school should have had cameras in all parts of the building, not just the newer areas, and that he was shocked there was not more surveillance.

“I’ve been there multiple times … the fact that there weren’t cameras there actually shocked me,” he said. “I figured there was going to be cameras at least in the hallway that would’ve picked them up because I knew there was cameras in the lecture hall, they just weren’t pointed at the doors to the entrance of the lecture,” he said.

“If I’m being honest, this is probably the worst building for this to happen in, specifically because of these sorts of failures,” McGonagle said.
Earlier today, Brown University officials defended the school’s security features and procedures.

 
  • #947
7 min ago

Student calls Barus and Holley the "worst building" for shooting to happen​

From CNN’s Maureen Chowdhury and Brian Todd

The Barus and Holley engineering building was likely the worst location for the shooting because it lacks certain security measures found in other buildings on Brown University’s campus, student Joe McGonagle told CNN.

“In particular, though, most of the buildings … they had a lobby that anyone can get into, but after, anywhere you try to go after the lobby, they had a security guard where you had to swipe in. Barus and Holley was one of the only buildings that didn’t have something like that,” McGonagle said, adding that he believes this is because it’s an older building with a different layout.

“The front part of it was actually a cafe, so just anyone could walk in and then you could just walk down the hall, past the cafe, into the lecture halls,” he said, noting that he’s familiar with the building because he has taken exams and attended class in the lecture hall where the shooting happened.

McGonagle said he believes the school should have had cameras in all parts of the building, not just the newer areas, and that he was shocked there was not more surveillance.

“I’ve been there multiple times … the fact that there weren’t cameras there actually shocked me,” he said. “I figured there was going to be cameras at least in the hallway that would’ve picked them up because I knew there was cameras in the lecture hall, they just weren’t pointed at the doors to the entrance of the lecture,” he said.

“If I’m being honest, this is probably the worst building for this to happen in, specifically because of these sorts of failures,” McGonagle said.
Earlier today, Brown University officials defended the school’s security features and procedures.


If the shooter has links to Brown, he would have targeted this building and classroom on purpose and because of the poor security measures. If not, then what a coincidence and luck for him!
 
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Has anyone seen it reported what time this specific class usually meets during the week and if it actually met in that building or if it was only in that building that day due to the exam review?
 
  • #950
If the shooter has links to Brown, he would have targeted this building and classroom on purpose and because of the poor security measures. If not, then what a coincidence and luck for him!
So, I wonder if he picked that building because it didn't have cameras.

Or did he pick the building because of the people inside the classroom (or the department) AND he knew there were no cameras?

Or, targeted the people (or the department) and lucked out with the cameras?

Was the target Brown University, the engineering department, specific people, random people?

jmo
 
  • #951
If the shooter has links to Brown, he would have targeted this building and classroom on purpose and because of the poor security measures. If not, then what a coincidence and luck for him!
I originally thought shots were fired in just one classroom but it looks like the witness interviewed and quoted in multiple outlets – teaching assistant Joseph Oduro – heard gunfire outside the class he was teaching before the gunman entered and began shooting again.

 
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  • #955
I’m sorry, but I simply do not believe that law enforcement is going through all this time and effort to disseminate photos of someone who is merely thought to be a witness.

What is that person going to tell you that you haven’t already gleaned from camera footage, survivors, and other witnesses?

This press conference will be very telling, especially considering these reporters have no qualms about asking hard questions.
 
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  • #956
That looks like an Arab Women in that new tweet. And should easily be identified too.
 
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  • #959
I am more convinced this is a woman and I see a hoodie up over what might be a hijab. Looks like glasses also.
Yes, that’s what I was thinking from the side photo in the first release. This one is much better and seems to very much confirm that speculation. Not liking the direction this is heading, for sure.
 
  • #960
So that little segment of Ives street AFTER the shooting is a new piece of data. It might indicate a car was parked that way since he is walking back toward the area he was previously wandering around. Or was he linking back up with person 2 somewhere?
Going S down Ives gets you back to the same area as going E on George… has to be something in that area relevant to him.
 

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