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Except for the fact that the Russian Hockey Team is currently sitting in Ukraine's rink and isn't playing a game or drinking beers.
And, quite frankly, instead of being the referee, the US is getting credit and points for those Russian assists.
Elbows up Ukraine.
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Trump-Zelensky call over
Bernd Debusmann JrReporting from the White House
The phone call between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky has ended.
In a post on his Truth Social social media account, Trump described the call as "very good" and lasting about one hour.
"Much of the discussion was based on the call made yesterday with President Putin in order to align both Russia and Ukraine in terms of their requests and needs," he wrote.
"We are very much on track," Trump added.
Trump said that he's requested that Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz "give an accurate description of the points discussed".
A further statement will be published "shortly", he added.
We're likely to hear more details of the call from Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt at a briefing at 13:00 EST (17:00 GMT)
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
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Why aren't our allies in Europe included in these negotiations?Trump-Zelensky call over
Bernd Debusmann Jr
Reporting from the White House
The phone call between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky has ended.
In a post on his Truth Social social media account, Trump described the call as "very good" and lasting about one hour.
"Much of the discussion was based on the call made yesterday with President Putin in order to align both Russia and Ukraine in terms of their requests and needs," he wrote.
"We are very much on track," Trump added.
Trump said that he's requested that Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz "give an accurate description of the points discussed".
A further statement will be published "shortly", he added.
We're likely to hear more details of the call from Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt at a briefing at 13:00 EST (17:00 GMT)
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
I still consider the UK and EU to be allies of the US. Trump may be aligned with Russia, but the US is not. JMO
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What about the kids Russia stole . Are they even still aliveRussia and Ukraine exchange 372 prisoners, defence ministry says
Vitaliy Shevchenko
Russia editor, BBC Monitoring
Ukraine and Russia have swapped 175 prisoners of war each, the Russian defence ministry says.
The United Arab Emirates acted as a mediator in the exchange, it says.
Russia also handed over 22 badly injured Ukrainian soldiers as “a gesture of goodwill”, it says.
The prisoner swap was announced after the telephone conversation between the Russian and US presidents, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump.
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
Russia attacks rail infrastructure again, company says
While we wait for more updates on the phone call, we've received news that Russia has attacked Ukrainian rail infrastructure in Dnipro for a second time today, according to Ukraine's state railway company.
In a post on Telegram, the company Ukrzaliznytsya said four workers were injured, two seriously.
The attack was preceded by a missile, it adds. The BBC has not been able to independently verify this.
Earlier, Ukrzaliznytsya reported that a drone attack was carried out, affecting electricity on part of the railway.
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
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Ukrainian prisoners arrive home
Earlier we reported that there has been a prisoner exchange between Russia and Ukraine.
According to Zelensky, busses carrying 175 Ukrainians are now back in the northern Chernihiv region - some of them are "severely wounded", he wrote on X.
"All will be provided with the necessary medical and psychological assistance immediately," he added.
Zelensky called it one of the largest exchanges.
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
www.bbc.co.uk
I can't ever let myself think when it happened, not even animals p and his gang are. t has done the same here.
ALL garbage.Trump-Zelensky call over
Bernd Debusmann Jr
Reporting from the White House
The phone call between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky has ended.
In a post on his Truth Social social media account, Trump described the call as "very good" and lasting about one hour.
"Much of the discussion was based on the call made yesterday with President Putin in order to align both Russia and Ukraine in terms of their requests and needs," he wrote.
"We are very much on track," Trump added.
Trump said that he's requested that Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz "give an accurate description of the points discussed".
A further statement will be published "shortly", he added.
We're likely to hear more details of the call from Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt at a briefing at 13:00 EST (17:00 GMT)
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
White House details Zelensky-Trump call
Bernd Debusmann JrReporting from the White House
We're getting more details on the call between Trump and Zelensky from White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt.
Referring to a statement from Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, Leavitt says Trump and Zelensky had a "fantastic" conversation.
She says Zelensky thanked the US for its support - particularly for Javelin missiles - and that "lasting peace under President Trump's leadership can be achieved".
The two men also discussed the fighting in Kursk, with Zelensky also requesting more air defence resources.
A technical meeting is expected soon, with a view towards a wider ceasefire on the Black Sea.
Trump also reportedly said that "American ownership" of Ukrainian energy infrastructure could help the country.
Much of the briefing thus far has focused on US immigration policies and domestic issues, particularly the legal wrangling over deportation flights.
US 'beyond' minerals deal, White House says
Bernd Debusmann JrReporting from the White House
Leavitt was asked about the minerals deal between the US and Ukrainethat was, just a few weeks ago, a main topic of conversation between both countries.
She did not answer directly, referring to the previous statement from Rubio and Waltz.
She did, however, say that the US is "beyond" the minerals deal and is now more focused on peace negotiations. Leavitt was also asked about a line in the Kremlin's read-out of the Putin-Trump call, which suggested that US and Russian ice hockey teams would play each other.
"It did come up," she responded. "However, we're more interested in a peace deal than scheduling hockey games."
So far, Leavitt seems largely content to cite the White House's own read-out on the call between Trump and Putin, with her answers on the topic relatively short.
Ukraine war live: Zelensky says lasting peace achievable this year after he and Trump hail 'positive' call
Zelensky describes call with Trump as 'frank' and 'very substantive'
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Zelensky released this photo along with his statement on the phone call
Volodymyr Zelensky has just commented on his earlier phone call with Donald Trump, describing it as "positive", "frank", and "very substantive".
"We agreed that Ukraine and the United States should continue working together to achieve a real end to the war and lasting peace," he says.
"We believe that together with America, with President Trump, and under American leadership, lasting peace can be achieved this year."
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IMAGE SOURCE, ZELENSKYYUA
Image caption,
Zelensky released this photo along with his statement on the phone call
Volodymyr Zelensky has just commented on his earlier phone call with Donald Trump, describing it as "positive", "frank", and "very substantive".
"We agreed that Ukraine and the United States should continue working together to achieve a real end to the war and lasting peace," he says.
"We believe that together with America, with President Trump, and under American leadership, lasting peace can be achieved this year."
Zelensky’s overview of his call with Trump
It was an hour-long call between the two presidents, and Zelensky’s summary of it is not brief either. Here’s a quick breakdown of what the Ukrainian president says:- Lasting peace can be achieved this year "together with America, with President Trump, and under American leadership"
- Ending strikes on energy and other civilian infrastructure, is "one of the first steps toward fully ending the war", Zelensky said, adding: "I supported this step, and Ukraine confirmed that we are ready to implement it"
- Trump shared details about his conversation with Putin yesterday, and Zelensky gave an update on the battlefield situation and the consequences of Russian strikes
- Agreed to stay in contact - both "at the highest level" and through their teams, which can "agree on all necessary aspects of advancing toward lasting peace and security guarantees"
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
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33m ago17.36 GMT
Zelenskyy says that Trump shared details of his yesterday’s conversation with Russian president Vladimir Putin, and in response confirmed Ukraine’s readiness to “implement” a limited energy, civilian infrastructure ceasefire.
“The American side also proposed an unconditional ceasefire on the frontline, and Ukraine accepted this proposal as well. We will continue working to make this happen,” he said.
Zelenskyy also said that he leaders “instructed our teams to resolve technical issues related to implementing and expanding the partial ceasefire.”
Here’s the statement in full:
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Zelenskyy confirms Ukraine is ready to implement limited energy, infrastructure ceasefire
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has just posted his readout from the call with US president Donald Trump, saying it was “a positive, very substantive, and frank conversation,” and he believed that “under American leadership, lasting peace can be achieve this year.”Zelenskyy says that Trump shared details of his yesterday’s conversation with Russian president Vladimir Putin, and in response confirmed Ukraine’s readiness to “implement” a limited energy, civilian infrastructure ceasefire.
“The American side also proposed an unconditional ceasefire on the frontline, and Ukraine accepted this proposal as well. We will continue working to make this happen,” he said.
Zelenskyy also said that he leaders “instructed our teams to resolve technical issues related to implementing and expanding the partial ceasefire.”
Here’s the statement in full:
Zelenskyy says Ukraine ready to implement limited energy and infrastructure ceasefire after ‘positive’ and ‘frank’ Trump call – live
Zelenskyy said he accepted US proposal of unconditional ceasefire on frontline in ‘substantive’ conversation with Trump
12m ago17.58 GMT
The most interesting line is that Ukraine’s Zelenskyy “asked for additional air defence systems to protect his civilians, particularly Patriot missile systems,” and Trump “agreed to work with him to find what was available, particularly in Europe.”
Other key points:
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US 'finding what available' in response to Ukraine's request for more air defence systems
White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt has just read out the full White House readout from the Trump-Zelenskyy call.The most interesting line is that Ukraine’s Zelenskyy “asked for additional air defence systems to protect his civilians, particularly Patriot missile systems,” and Trump “agreed to work with him to find what was available, particularly in Europe.”
Other key points:
- Trump “fully briefed” Zelenskyy on his conversation with Putin.
- The leaders agreed on “a partial ceasefire against energy” targets.
- There will be further “technical” discussions about extending the ceasefire to cover the Black Sea “on the way to a full ceasefire.”
- The leaders discussed “the situation in Kursk” and agreed to share more information about the situation.
- Trump suggested that US ownership of Ukrainian electrical supply and nuclear power plants “could be very helpful in running those plants,” and “be the best protection” for that critical infrastructure.
- Trump promised “to work closely with both parties” to make sure children abducted during the war children “were returned home.”
Zelenskyy says Ukraine ready to implement limited energy and infrastructure ceasefire after ‘positive’ and ‘frank’ Trump call – live
Zelenskyy said he accepted US proposal of unconditional ceasefire on frontline in ‘substantive’ conversation with Trump
2m ago14.09 EDT
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt speaks during the daily briefing at the White House in Washington. Photograph: Mark Schiefelbein/AP
When specifically asked about it, Leavitt also confirmed that “intelligence sharing in terms of defence of Ukraine will continue to be shared.”
She was also repeatedly asked about minor differences in the Kremlin and the White House readouts as to the extent of the proposed partial ceasefire, specifically whether it covered energy and infrastructure, as two separate items named by the US, or energy infrastructure, as put out by the Russian side.
Leavitt said she would “defer … to the readout that was provided by the White House,” as “that is our understanding and that is the truth.”
Asked about the minerals deal, she said the conversation has moved “beyond the economic minerals deal,” with focus on “partial ceasefire, and we are moving towards a full ceasefire and a longstanding peace in this conflict.”
Pressed further if that meant it is off the table, she said it was “the first set of framework” discussed earlier, but the US “was not focused on a long-term peace agreement.”
“The Ukrainian president, at the time, wasn’t talking about a greater peace deal. We are now at that place where we are talking about that,” she said.
“We’ve moved beyond just the economic minerals deal framework, and we’re looking at a lasting ceasefire, right now a partial ceasefire. But again, the president is sending his highly skilled, intelligent and experienced team to Saudi Arabia later this week to creating peace in this conflict, and I would just reiterate one more time, we have been closer to peace than we are today,” she said.
The press secretary was also asked about the proposed NHL-KHL ice hockey match, floated in the Kremlin readout, saying the US was “more interested in securing a peace deal than scheduling hockey games right now.”
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White House confirms intelligence-sharing 'in defence of Ukraine', says conversation moved beyond minerals deal
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt speaks during the daily briefing at the White House in Washington. Photograph: Mark Schiefelbein/AP
When specifically asked about it, Leavitt also confirmed that “intelligence sharing in terms of defence of Ukraine will continue to be shared.”
She was also repeatedly asked about minor differences in the Kremlin and the White House readouts as to the extent of the proposed partial ceasefire, specifically whether it covered energy and infrastructure, as two separate items named by the US, or energy infrastructure, as put out by the Russian side.
Leavitt said she would “defer … to the readout that was provided by the White House,” as “that is our understanding and that is the truth.”
Asked about the minerals deal, she said the conversation has moved “beyond the economic minerals deal,” with focus on “partial ceasefire, and we are moving towards a full ceasefire and a longstanding peace in this conflict.”
Pressed further if that meant it is off the table, she said it was “the first set of framework” discussed earlier, but the US “was not focused on a long-term peace agreement.”
“The Ukrainian president, at the time, wasn’t talking about a greater peace deal. We are now at that place where we are talking about that,” she said.
“We’ve moved beyond just the economic minerals deal framework, and we’re looking at a lasting ceasefire, right now a partial ceasefire. But again, the president is sending his highly skilled, intelligent and experienced team to Saudi Arabia later this week to creating peace in this conflict, and I would just reiterate one more time, we have been closer to peace than we are today,” she said.
The press secretary was also asked about the proposed NHL-KHL ice hockey match, floated in the Kremlin readout, saying the US was “more interested in securing a peace deal than scheduling hockey games right now.”
Zelenskyy says Ukraine ready to implement limited energy and infrastructure ceasefire after ‘positive’ and ‘frank’ Trump call – live
Zelenskyy said he accepted US proposal of unconditional ceasefire on frontline in ‘substantive’ conversation with Trump
Trump asked Zelensky about missing Ukrainian children
Bernd Debusmann Jr
Reporting from the White House
We've just concluded a brief news conference at the White House with Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt.
In addition to the points we've already mentioned, Leavitt noted that Trump asked Zelensky "about the children who had gone missing from Ukraine during the war, including the ones who had been abducted".
She added that the US president vowed to "work closely" with both the Russian and Ukrainian sides to ensure those children are returned him.
Later in the briefing, Leavitt was also asked about reports that the Trump administration halted funding for a program that tracked the mass deportation of Ukrainian children which was being led by Yale University.
The report has enraged some Democratic US lawmakers, who earlier this week reportedly sent a letter calling for the programme to be re-started and for sanctions against officials involved in the movement of the children.
Leavitt, however, said that the White House had nothing to add to those reports.
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
www.bbc.co.uk
Who wants what and what they might be willing to accept
In the last 24 hours, Donald Trump has held separate calls with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky. But it's worth revisiting what's happened between these three leaders over the course of the last few weeks.
Earlier this month, the US and Ukraine agreed to propose a 30-day ceasefire to Russia. While Putin said that he supported a ceasefire, he also set out a list of tough conditions for achieving peace.
But this would only be temporary. The ultimate goal for each of the key players is lasting peace, or so they say.
Though united in vision, their demands remain at odds – as has been laid bare by the high-wire diplomacy of recent weeks.
What they’ve said: Any peace deal must include the full withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine back to the pre-2014 borders
What they’ve said: Russia is against Ukraine joining Nato and Europe deploying peacekeeping troops there if and when the war ends. They have also called for an election in Ukraine
What they’ve said: The US has ruled out Ukraine’s demands for Nato accession and a return to it’s pre-2014 borders. The US and Ukraine have agreed to propose a 30-day ceasefire in the air, on land and in the sea to Russia. Putin has expressed support, caveated with a list of tough conditions
What they might accept: It’s likely Trump would accept a deal that required Europe to provide post-war security guarantees to Ukraine
For context: Zelensky's first five-year term of office was due to come to an end in May 2024. However, Ukraine has been under martial law since the Russian invasion in February 2022, which means elections are suspended
What they’ve said: Following a summit of European and other allied leaders in London, UK PM Keir Starmer said the UK, France and other countries would establish a “coalition of the willing”. He said the UK would also send peacekeeping troops to Ukraine if and when the war ends
What they might accept: Starmer has said any agreement would need US backing and security guarantees, but “Europe must do the heavy lifting”
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Ukraine ceasefire: Who wants what?In the last 24 hours, Donald Trump has held separate calls with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky. But it's worth revisiting what's happened between these three leaders over the course of the last few weeks.
Earlier this month, the US and Ukraine agreed to propose a 30-day ceasefire to Russia. While Putin said that he supported a ceasefire, he also set out a list of tough conditions for achieving peace.
But this would only be temporary. The ultimate goal for each of the key players is lasting peace, or so they say.
Though united in vision, their demands remain at odds – as has been laid bare by the high-wire diplomacy of recent weeks.
What Ukraine wants
What they want: Russian withdrawal; to join the Nato military allianceWhat they’ve said: Any peace deal must include the full withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine back to the pre-2014 borders
- Some context: Eastern Ukraine has been contested territory since 2014, when Russian-backed fighters seized large swathes of the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Russia had already seized the southern peninsula of Crimea in February 2014 before annexing it soon afterwards
Russia’s demands, at a glance
What they want: Russia has annexed parts of four regions of Ukraine since 2022, and wants them to be recognised as part of Russia – despite not having full control of themWhat they’ve said: Russia is against Ukraine joining Nato and Europe deploying peacekeeping troops there if and when the war ends. They have also called for an election in Ukraine
- For context: Zelensky's first five-year term of office was due to come to an end in May 2024. However, Ukraine has been under martial law since the Russian invasion in February 2022, which means elections are suspended
- Putin last week claimed Russia was fully back in control of Kursk, while Ukraine hinted that its troops were pulling back
The US vision for a ceasefire
What they want: US President Donald Trump promised to end the war in Ukraine in his first 100 days in officeWhat they’ve said: The US has ruled out Ukraine’s demands for Nato accession and a return to it’s pre-2014 borders. The US and Ukraine have agreed to propose a 30-day ceasefire in the air, on land and in the sea to Russia. Putin has expressed support, caveated with a list of tough conditions
What they might accept: It’s likely Trump would accept a deal that required Europe to provide post-war security guarantees to Ukraine
For context: Zelensky's first five-year term of office was due to come to an end in May 2024. However, Ukraine has been under martial law since the Russian invasion in February 2022, which means elections are suspended
What about the UK?
What they want: A peace deal that includes Russia but does not allow it to dictate the termsWhat they’ve said: Following a summit of European and other allied leaders in London, UK PM Keir Starmer said the UK, France and other countries would establish a “coalition of the willing”. He said the UK would also send peacekeeping troops to Ukraine if and when the war ends
What they might accept: Starmer has said any agreement would need US backing and security guarantees, but “Europe must do the heavy lifting”
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
www.bbc.co.uk
NopeWho wants what and what they might be willing to accept
Ukraine ceasefire: Who wants what?
In the last 24 hours, Donald Trump has held separate calls with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky. But it's worth revisiting what's happened between these three leaders over the course of the last few weeks.
Earlier this month, the US and Ukraine agreed to propose a 30-day ceasefire to Russia. While Putin said that he supported a ceasefire, he also set out a list of tough conditions for achieving peace.
But this would only be temporary. The ultimate goal for each of the key players is lasting peace, or so they say.
Though united in vision, their demands remain at odds – as has been laid bare by the high-wire diplomacy of recent weeks.
What Ukraine wants
What they want: Russian withdrawal; to join the Nato military alliance
What they’ve said: Any peace deal must include the full withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine back to the pre-2014 borders
What they might accept: Zelensky has suggested that Russian territory held by Ukraine could be swapped for the territory Russia has seized. He has also offered the US access to Ukraine’s mineral deposits - but the White House suggested earlier that the US might be "beyond" that now
- Some context: Eastern Ukraine has been contested territory since 2014, when Russian-backed fighters seized large swathes of the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Russia had already seized the southern peninsula of Crimea in February 2014 before annexing it soon afterwards
Russia’s demands, at a glance
What they want: Russia has annexed parts of four regions of Ukraine since 2022, and wants them to be recognised as part of Russia – despite not having full control of them
What they’ve said: Russia is against Ukraine joining Nato and Europe deploying peacekeeping troops there if and when the war ends. They have also called for an election in Ukraine
What they might accept: The Kremlin swiftly ruled out Zelensky’s suggestion for a territory swap. This proposed that Russia could have back the land in the western Kursk region captured by Kyiv during its incursion last August, for Russia-seized territory in Ukraine. Putin also laid out key conditions for a lasting peace in the read-out of his call with Trump
- For context: Zelensky's first five-year term of office was due to come to an end in May 2024. However, Ukraine has been under martial law since the Russian invasion in February 2022, which means elections are suspended
- Putin last week claimed Russia was fully back in control of Kursk, while Ukraine hinted that its troops were pulling back
The US vision for a ceasefire
What they want: US President Donald Trump promised to end the war in Ukraine in his first 100 days in office
What they’ve said: The US has ruled out Ukraine’s demands for Nato accession and a return to it’s pre-2014 borders. The US and Ukraine have agreed to propose a 30-day ceasefire in the air, on land and in the sea to Russia. Putin has expressed support, caveated with a list of tough conditions
What they might accept: It’s likely Trump would accept a deal that required Europe to provide post-war security guarantees to Ukraine
For context: Zelensky's first five-year term of office was due to come to an end in May 2024. However, Ukraine has been under martial law since the Russian invasion in February 2022, which means elections are suspended
What about the UK?
What they want: A peace deal that includes Russia but does not allow it to dictate the terms
What they’ve said: Following a summit of European and other allied leaders in London, UK PM Keir Starmer said the UK, France and other countries would establish a “coalition of the willing”. He said the UK would also send peacekeeping troops to Ukraine if and when the war ends
What they might accept: Starmer has said any agreement would need US backing and security guarantees, but “Europe must do the heavy lifting”
Putin must stop 'unnecessary demands' in peace talks, Zelensky tells EU chiefs at meeting
Senior military officers from around 20 countries are meeting in the UK to discuss a peacekeeping force after any Ukraine ceasefire.
Thank God the leaders are getting together.
No one wants to stay up at night, hearing gun shots in the distance.
and wondering "who Is doing the fighting".
Most companies started with an idea, like a Peace plan.
It takes courage and hard work to move on with a Peace plan
for the rebuilding of the country.
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