SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #9

[Elley Mae]

From this article:
Just one week before this bizarre incident, according to the source, 'Buster and Alex were talking about the fact that the life insurance wasn't paying out on Maggie or Paul. My understanding was that there was a $6million policy on her and $4million on him.'

So, there was a life insurance policy on Maggie and one on Paul?

Well the other didn’t pay out for suicide this one probably won’t pay out until they know that the benefactor isn’t the murderer.

Jmo

 

[raja]

From this article:
Just one week before this bizarre incident, according to the source, 'Buster and Alex were talking about the fact that the life insurance wasn't paying out on Maggie or Paul. My understanding was that there was a $6million policy on her and $4million on him.'

So, there was a life insurance policy on Maggie and one on Paul?

I swear I can’t find the statement in the article.

 

[Elley Mae]

I swear I can’t find the statement in the article.

Find AM’s mugshot, 9th paragraph down from there.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I swear I can’t find the statement in the article.

It is a few lines above the picture of the four Murdaugh family members in front of the green tractor.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I’ve just come across this - wow.
Alex and Maggie Murdaugh's marriage was in crisis, family insider reveals | Daily Mail Online

A few points of interest --

***Maggie, the source told DailyMail.com, had long dealt with her husband's now much reported abuse of prescription pills but, they said, 'I don't think she'd had to worry about money before. That was new for her.'

The source explained, 'I remember one day, it must have been a few months before she was killed, she was crying because she had written a check at a charity luncheon, and it had bounced.

'She thought at first there must have been some mistake but when she found out there wasn't she was mortified and upset.

[...]


In truth, the said, 'It seemed like Alex had just washed his hands of his family. He was checked out and she could either look the other way, knowing all that she knew, or start again.

'I worry that her looking the other way is what got her killed.'

The source told DailyMail.com, 'They'd had secrets they kept a long time. Maggie was well aware of Alex's prescription pill problem and had been for years.

'I saw her digging a bottle of pills that didn't have Alex's name on it out of the trash more than once. On one occasion she told me she was going to confront the person whose name was on it, but I don't know if she ever did.'

They added, 'Maggie was a very sweet person. She was different from the rest of them. She was a Murdaugh in name only. What happened was so awful. She didn't deserve that, and she deserves to get justice.'

 

[pizzaman12]

From this article:
Just one week before this bizarre incident, according to the source, 'Buster and Alex were talking about the fact that the life insurance wasn't paying out on Maggie or Paul. My understanding was that there was a $6million policy on her and $4million on him.'

So, there was a life insurance policy on Maggie and one on Paul?

I thought AM lawyer stated there was no life insurance on MM or PM?

 

[raja]

From this article:
Just one week before this bizarre incident, according to the source, 'Buster and Alex were talking about the fact that the life insurance wasn't paying out on Maggie or Paul. My understanding was that there was a $6million policy on her and $4million on him.'

So, there was a life insurance policy on Maggie and one on Paul?

Thank you I was reading on my phone, which I normaly don't, and it cut off the article.

 

[swedeheart]

So where/who had all Alex's money gone to? Not only from his occupation as a big-wig lawyer in town, but he was embezzling from his law firm, and stealing from at least one victim's family, too! Why was he so broke? I will never buy that it was all spent on opioids. Nope. I'd also bet that reason got Maggie and Paul killed.

Imo.

 

[Betty P]

I thought AM lawyer stated there was no life insurance on MM or PM?

Well maybe we can't believe what AM's attorney says for now. Defense attorneys don't have to prove anything in court, they're not held to the same level of accountability as prosecutors. So, they can shade the truth as much as they want.

 

[pizzaman12]

Well maybe we can't believe what AM's attorney says for now. Defense attorneys don't have to prove anything in court, they're not held to the same level of accountability as prosecutors. So, they can shade the truth as much as they want.

That seems like a pretty bold statement to make though. If I recall, the statement didn't appear ambiguous

Life insurance certainly would create more motive than no life insurance

 

[Born2BWild]

Just wow! Big jaw drop.

I was holding out on seriously considering AM in the murders of MM & PM, but not now.

And I’m thinking that the CES shooting was not meant to kill AM. It wasn’t an “All About Buster” motive, IMO, but was to look like whoever killed MM & PM was coming after AM to finish the job.

AM was meant to live. And when he did he could compensate CES with proceeds from PM& MM life insurance payout.

Why would CES actually kill AM and be charged with murder with not a dime in it for him.? IMO.

I’m so glad that her friends are fed up with the truth not coming out that they’re ready to talk. IMO.

 

[Born2BWild]

That seems like a pretty bold statement to make though. If I recall, the statement didn't appear ambiguous

That lawyer also said MM & AM had a loving marriage and that if AM had gone to trial for MB death he was going to show that PM wasn’t driving the boat, IIRC.

 

[Betty P]

So where/who had all Alex's money gone to? Not only from his occupation as a big-wig lawyer in town, but he was embezzling from his law firm, and stealing from at least one victim's family, too! Why was he so broke? I will never buy that it was all spent on opioids. Nope. I'd also bet that reason got Maggie and Paul killed.

Imo.

Just guessing, but Alex's fortune relied on windfalls of income from various settlements from lawsuits. Instead of setting money aside or trying to live within average means, he spent money like crazy when he had it. He then needed to finagle more shady deals via lawsuits/insurance settlements to keep up with the cost of maintaining that lifestyle.

The houses, the properties, condos and expensive toys for the sons, the dogs, the boats, the various vehicles, employees to run things, etc. were requiring large, regular cash infusions . Add in the drug habit and it becomes impossible to keep funding. To make the situation worse, Paul's problems became a major drain on already scarce assets.

Instead of saying "Heck the kids are grown and in college, let's start unloading some of this stuff" AM tried to keep it going. I've seen families in my area go through this cycle, of course on a smaller scale. The big McMansion house, brand new cars and designer clothes for the high school kids, boats, RV's, expensive vacations, jet skis, luxury cars, etc. Then a few years later, the possessions are gone and parents are living in a nice condo. Downsizing, why couldn't AM do it?

 

[pizzaman12]

That lawyer also said MM & AM had a loving marriage and that if AM had gone to trial for MB death he was going to show that PM wasn’t driving the boat, IIRC.

Both of those can be argued.

There shouldn't be much grey area on whether a policy exists or not. I'm sure LE knows the answer

 

[meanmaryjean]

How much longer is this guy going to stay in 'rehab'?

 

[Elley Mae]

How much longer is this guy going to stay in 'rehab'?

Imo

It’s a delay tactic (rehab) 30 60 90 days?

I think he saw what was coming with the “firm” letting him go, and confronting him about the mjssing money.

Jmo

 

[Sleuth307]

No.

“Mr. Fleming and his firm agreed that the estate will be paid back all legal fees and expenses Mr. Fleming and his law firm received from the $4,300,000 they recovered for the estate in connection with the claims asserted against Alex Murdaugh for the death of Gloria Satterfied,” Bland said in a press release. “In addition, their malpractice insurance carrier agreed to pay to the estate their full policy limits of insurance.”

Murdaugh Murders Saga: Cory Fleming And His Law Firm Reach Settlement With Satterfield’s Estate

Snipped from above paragraph.

“In addition, their malpractice insurance carrier agreed to pay to the estate their full policy limits of insurance.”

Does this mean it could be more?

I think what it is saying is that they will give the estate all of CF’s fees that he charged for doing the settlement as their attorney (the $600k-$1.2m). Then, obviously the estate is/will sue him for malpractice, etc. on top of that. So CF is just agreeing to settle straight away for the maximum policy limit for his malpractice insurance, rather than fight it in court. We don’t know the amount, but I would assume it’s a few million dollars. Then on top of that, the estate will still sue AM and CW for their share.

 

[Lux et Veritas]

“Mr. Fleming and his firm agreed that the estate will be paid back all legal fees and expenses Mr. Fleming and his law firm received from the $4,300,000 they recovered for the estate in connection with the claims asserted against Alex Murdaugh for the death of Gloria Satterfied,” Bland said in a press release. “In addition, their malpractice insurance carrier agreed to pay to the estate their full policy limits of insurance.”

Murdaugh Murders Saga: Cory Fleming And His Law Firm Reach Settlement With Satterfield’s Estate

Snipped from above paragraph.

“In addition, their malpractice insurance carrier agreed to pay to the estate their full policy limits of insurance.”

Does this mean it could be more?

Sure sounds like the Satterfield sons will get the entire $4.3M.

ETA: PLUS whatever the malpractice ins carrier pays. So happy for GS's boys.

 

[Lux et Veritas]

Satterfields' attorney Eric Bland sure put a huge feather in his cap aggressively diving into their case. He done real GOOD. Word gets around about great attorneys ... just like word gets out about horrid, greedy, fraudulent, indeed, malevolent attorneys.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I wonder why no shoe prints for anyone? That seems very odd. Maybe no tire tracks if no vehicle went back there but no shoe prints after a heavy rain seems strange. Even if grass covers it, the ground under it still generally deforms somewhat. With higher grass, meaning grass that hasn’t recently been shaved to the ground, the grass usually shows where someone or something has been. I say this having followed the steps of a suddenly adventure-seeking dog who ventured beyond my sight in the yard (not a little one and did I mention the near-opaque darkness out here?) on a rainy, moon-sliver (no full moons seem to occur when I need them, I’m sorry to say!) night. Flashlights are my friend. Of course, in the MM/PM case, everyone was shocked and it was chaos, of course, so maybe no one saw value in looking. MOO.

People say that it was an amateur "shooter", given the terrible weather conditions. I say maybe that was the goal..to have total chaos in rain slicked environment, washing away certain things.

And I always come back to the same question:

WHY was MM even down at the kennels in such bad weather conditions....
If there is a digital trail to answer this... I must believe that LE must have this data...