SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #9

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First post from me on this fascinating case though familiar with sleuths from the Rhoden case. I just read as much as possible so before my eyes close wanted to add a couple thoughts.
I am in recovery over 10 years now. Familiar story prescribed at the beginning then anywhere I could find them at the end. JMO as always but my experience in rehab myself and then assisting other addicts tells me that there are standard protocols upon admission. First they test you. The staff will not take your word for what substances are in your system. Certainly doesn't in any way certify if AM has had a 20 year problem but believe me some of us are really good at functioning and keeping our secrets. That is until we aren't . But between those points the manipulation,lies and need to control everything are very familiar and again JMO AM is exactly the picture of an opioid addict. He spent years of his life juggling it all. Then as it always does his addiction began to unravel and he unraveled as well. Seems to me he has been covering for himself and his family for a long time. Living a lifestyle beyond his means along with practicing law and covering for his son took a toll. In no way does that excuse any of his subsequent actions but at least from here I believe the behavior fits with addiction. We can get better with sincere desire but it's no easy road.

Great post, Normmajean. Excellent to hear from 'insiders' who've lived the issues we discuss. Good for you for 10 years! Hope you are doing well. : )
 
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I love bologna sandwich, fried.

Hadn't heard of that. Is that like a grilled cheese but with bologna? lol I might have to try it.
 
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The part about the addiction story that just doesn't ring true for me is the lack of progression. No one stays addicted to the same thing for 20 years without a significant impact on their health. OR progressing to other substances.
But to look as healthy and borderline overweight as AM does and be addicted to oxy for twenty years?
That's a 'nope' from me dawg.

He certainly did look the picture of health in his mug shot. LOL
 
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Great post, Normmajean. Excellent to hear from 'insiders' who've lived the issues we discuss. Good for you for 10 years! Hope you are doing well. : )

Agree, @Normmajean — great post and congrats on your 10-years clean! That is really an accomplishment. Thank you for sharing because your story is insightful.

As I recall you were replying to someone who was saying they didn’t think AM was going to be a good candidate for rehab because he seemed to be controlling. Guess I was thinking about the First Step: admitting one is powerless. Wonder how long that one will take him. Don’t mean to be insensitive if he really is an addict — he’s been a real skunk but addiction is a disease. OMO.

Again, thanks for sharing. :):):)
 
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Do you think that the Satterfield son/sons did not mention to Fleming that AM sent them to him to sue AM.

AM "suing himself" was such total BS (part of the co-conspiratorial scheme). Any normal, non-fraudulent homeowner would simply make a claim with their insurance company.
 
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He surely took advantage of it really quickly. The counterpoint is that she did not die right away, which one would expect if this was an intentional act.

There is of course middle ground, in which there was an act of violence that wasn't intended to cause death (someone lost their temper and hurt her).

And who do we know who had a volatile, belligerent, violent temper (at least when drunk)? "Timmy".
 
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During the 2015 investigation of the death of Stephen Smith — a 19-year-old Hampton, S.C. native who was friends with Alex Murdaugh’s sons — Fleming represented a man named Patrick Wilson who was facing three counts of attempted murder in a separate 2015 shooting. According to investigators’ notes in the Smith case, Wilson told his stepfather that his friend killed Stephen by swiping him with the side view mirror of a vehicle, a theory posited by the coroner but which was not supported by evidence.

When Wilson’s stepfather told police this story, he said “he was passing this information on was because Randy Murdaugh told him to call,” according to the investigation file (more on that story here).

At the time, Buster Murdaugh, Paul’s brother, was on detectives’ “radar” in the Stephen Smith investigation. To be clear, Buster was never named a suspect in the case.

Wilson’s attempted murder charges were later dropped by the S.C. fourteenth circuit solicitor’s office — where Fleming previously worked.

September 14, 2021

Murdaugh Murders: Housekeeper’s Family Says They Never Got Any Money In Death Settlement
Chickens all coming home to roost.
 
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Thing is, AM's heinous, fraudulent scheme to steal GS's settlement estate from her sons was put into motion a long time before the Feb 2019 boat crash.
The initial $505,000 payoff but was the other BIG payoff negotiated after the boat accident?
 
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DBM. Someone said it better, above.
 
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He certainly did look the picture of health in his mug shot. LOL
Entrance and exit wounds not withstanding...LOL. (For the record, I’d call it a “cowlick”, end sound rhymes with “Ellick”, as is Murdaugh).
 
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AM "suing himself" was such total BS (part of the co-conspiratorial scheme). Any normal, non-fraudulent homeowner would simply make a claim with their insurance company.
Sorry, but when you say “any normal, non-fraudulent homeowner”, all I can hear is Alex yelling “ITTSA HOWWSE!!” at the 911 operator. LOL.
 
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There's a vast amount of knowledge available, methinks, from office staff like secretaries, receptionists and assistants. They have to be involved in the day to day paper-shuffling. Imo
No, not at the law firm I worked at that practiced in this kind of stuff. Those involved kept the incriminating things to themselves. Everyone knew what they were doing though. But who knows with this group, they may have felt protected in deep corruption and didn't care.
Hadn't heard of that. Is that like a grilled cheese but with bologna? lol I might have to try it.
No you fry the bologna and put on white bread with yellow mustard, with or without onion or fresh tomato, otherwise known as a Bristol Burger, Bristol, TN. :):p:D
 
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Hadn't heard of that. Is that like a grilled cheese but with bologna? lol I might have to try it.

You must not be from the south or anywhere in the midwest
 
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This is a terrific article but too long to provide all of it.
Murdaugh Murders: Why Hasn’t Alex Murdaugh Been Arrested In The Satterfield Scandal? | Fitsnews, 7 Oct 2021

Now, Bland — and so many others — are questioning where the accountability is in this case after he’s provided law enforcement with an apparent pile of evidence.

Why isn’t Alex Murdaugh — who is accused of devising the plan to steal millions of dollars from Satterfield’s family — in jail?

How is Cory Fleming — who was the Satterfields’ attorney in 2018 and failed almost every step in his duty to serve his clients — still able to practice law in South Carolina?

Why is Chad Westendorf — the personal representative of Gloria’s estate, who played a key role in the scheme to cut Satterfield’s sons out of the settlement before he took $30,000 — still the president of the Independent Banks of South Carolina and still working at Palmetto State Bank?

Will Carmen Mullen — the judge who has ties to the Murdaugh family and approved the under-the-table-settlement in 2019 — ever have to tell the truth about her alleged involvement?

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Bland, who is representing Satterfield’s two sons in a civil lawsuit against Murdaugh and his co-conspirators, told FITSNews that he has turned over all of this information to SLED. He believes the documents provide enough probable cause evidence to arrest Murdaugh for multiple financial crimes related to the settlement including conspiracy to commit fraud, mail fraud and wire fraud. [BBM]

SLED officials confirmed that they met with Bland, who provided them documentation.

Bland told FITSNews he is concerned about the status of SLED’s investigation. SLED is the same agency investigating the June 7 double homicide of Alex Murdaugh’s wife Maggie Murdaugh and son Paul Murdaugh. Since the double homicide, SLED has opened four criminal investigations related to the Murdaugh family.

Bland said it’s been weeks since he provided SLED agents with crucial evidence in this case, yet, he doesn’t appear to be seeing much movement in their criminal investigation.

“How is Alex Murdaugh still walking the streets and not arrested and charged with theft of approximately $3.6 million?” Bland said. “My partner and I solved this apparent and significant crime in two weeks and provided the documents to the court and to the public in our filings.” [BBM]

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Bland, who has been a malpractice lawyer for more than 35 years, said has never come across a case as rotten as this one.

“I’ve sued over 175 lawyers and law firms — you could add them all up and it doesn’t equal what’s going on here,” Bland said. “Because this is top to bottom. This is judges, lawyers, money, everything.” [BBM]

After all we've seen, seems like the Murdaugh family still owns SC. Anyone who had done even half of what we know he's already done would be cooling their fannies in jail. Do SLED, judges, attorneys and local cops all fear repercussions if the system indicts AM for all his crimes? Are they petrified that if they do, he'll sing like a canary and spill their misdeeds and own crimes? (They're all connected in gawd knows how many legal cases over the decades - both civil and criminal - no doubt involving other financial schemes? i.e. Cory Fleming, Chad Westerdorf, Carmen Mullen, etc.) They ALL know where ALL the bodies are buried.

After following this case hard for four months I'm definitely getting the impression that the official power network in SC is a top-down good-ol'-boys-and-girls-club and they will protect each other's dirty, compromised, criminal? secrets, if for no other reason than to save themselves. The "Murdaugh Mafia" (I think FITS came out with that?) rules far and wide and deep. Rigged, rotten system. IMHO.
 
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No you fry the bologna and put on white bread with yellow mustard, with or without onion or fresh tomato, otherwise known as a Bristol Burger, Bristol, TN. :):p:D

Wow, that sounds delicious! Thanks! : )
 
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I'm hoping the Feds swoop in and make several arrests. Feels like it's coming -- early morning arrests and/or early morning searches. Then again, if PM is a POI in the murder investigation, the Feds would almost certainly lay low and not do anything that might impede the State's investigation of that. But can anyone in a position of authority in that State be trusted?? JMO.
 
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@RealRileyBenson
Response from Alex Murdaugh’s attorney Jim Griffin.
@WCBD


@lawyergriffin


Response to the recent PMPED lawsuit against Alex Murdaugh: “This is a very sad development. Alex holds every member of the Peters, Murdaugh, Parker, Eltzroth, Detrick law firm in very high esteem. He has pledged his full cooperation to the firm.”

https://twitter.com/RealRileyBenson/status/1445834810212057106?s=20
I’ll just bet some of those other lawyers in the PMPED law firm had their hands in the cookie jar.MOO
 
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