SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #9

[sunshineray]

From some of this afternoon’s stories:

The lawsuit alleges they later found a check on Murdaugh's desk from the other law firm.

"According to the notation on the check, it was a partial payment of the fees at issue," the lawsuit states. "However, the check was made payable to 'Alexander Murdaugh, Esq.' and not PMPED. It had been deposited into a personal account for Alex Murdaugh and not PMPED." …

The law firm is also "requesting to know whether Murdaugh has entered into any agreements that involve future payments related to books, interviews or other publicity," the statement reads.​

Alex Murdaugh's former law firm alleges he used fake bank account to steal money | Fox News, 6 Oct 2021

Law Firm Sues Alex Murdaugh for Allegedly Stealing Money from Firm and Clients | People, 6 Oct 2021


Another article — seems to have a few additional tidbits.

Murdaugh Hid Millions From Dead Housekeeper’s Sons: Court Docs | The Daily Beast

So PMPED people found a questionable check that proves he was cheating the law firm, found it right ON his desk. How very advantageous for them. Wait...what's that smell, does something stink?

 

[Norrmajean]

I'm pretty sure AM would be a total rehab fail. LOL He strikes me as a 'control freak' who gives orders but doesn't take commands well.

e.g. AM's words and actions at the hospital the night of the 2019 boat crash are extremely illuminating. According to the story below, he aggressively tried to orchestrate, dominate and manipulate / intimidate(?) literally everyone involved, from all the boat patients to their parents to the hospital staff to the investigators.

This is why I'm convinced he's NOT a drug addict (by definition, their lives are out of control!) and why he's NOT at "rehab".

‘She’s Gone, Don’t Worry About Her,’: What The Murdaughs Did The Night Mallory Beach Died

First post from me on this fascinating case though familiar with sleuths from the Rhoden case. I just read as much as possible so before my eyes close wanted to add a couple thoughts.
I am in recovery over 10 years now. Familiar story prescribed at the beginning then anywhere I could find them at the end. JMO as always but my experience in rehab myself and then assisting other addicts tells me that there are standard protocols upon admission. First they test you. The staff will not take your word for what substances are in your system. Certainly doesn't in any way certify if AM has had a 20 year problem but believe me some of us are really good at functioning and keeping our secrets. That is until we aren't . But between those points the manipulation,lies and need to control everything are very familiar and again JMO AM is exactly the picture of an opioid addict. He spent years of his life juggling it all. Then as it always does his addiction began to unravel and he unraveled as well. Seems to me he has been covering for himself and his family for a long time. Living a lifestyle beyond his means along with practicing law and covering for his son took a toll. In no way does that excuse any of his subsequent actions but at least from here I believe the behavior fits with addiction. We can get better with sincere desire but it's no easy road.

 

[Norrmajean]

I'm pretty sure AM would be a total rehab fail. LOL He strikes me as a 'control freak' who gives orders but doesn't take commands well.

e.g. AM's words and actions at the hospital the night of the 2019 boat crash are extremely illuminating. According to the story below, he aggressively tried to orchestrate, dominate and manipulate / intimidate(?) literally everyone involved, from all the boat patients to their parents to the hospital staff to the investigators.

This is why I'm convinced he's NOT a drug addict (by definition, their lives are out of control!) and why he's NOT at "rehab".

‘She’s Gone, Don’t Worry About Her,’: What The Murdaughs Did The Night Mallory Beach Died

First post from me on this fascinating case though familiar with sleuths from the Rhoden case. I just read as much as possible so before my eyes close wanted to add a couple thoughts.
I am in recovery over 10 years now. Familiar story prescribed at the beginning then anywhere I could find them at the end. JMO as always but my experience in rehab myself and then assisting other addicts tells me that there are standard protocols upon admission. First they test you. The staff will not take your word for what substances are in your system. Certainly doesn't in any way certify if AM has had a 20 year problem but believe me some of us are really good at functioning and keeping our secrets. That is until we aren't . But between those points the manipulation,lies and need to control everything are very familiar and again JMO AM is exactly the picture of an opioid addict. He spent years of his life juggling it all. Then as it always does his addiction began to unravel and he unraveled as well. Seems to me he has been covering for himself and his family for a long time. Living a lifestyle beyond his means along with practicing law and covering for his son took a toll. In no way does that excuse any of his subsequent actions but at least from here I believe the behavior fits with addiction. We can get better with sincere desire but it's no easy road.

 

[katydid23]

That would be highly unethical. As much as we dislike AM and feel he's the perpetrator of many bad things, rehabs and what goes on behind those doors stays confidential (and should imo)

You are right.......I guess I was thinking of jail house snitches. Rehab is not quite the same thing, as you point out ,correctly.

I was not really thinking of anyone being undercover with him in a therapy session a group meeting---more like when they are hanging in the jacuzzi, goofing around.

 

[Elley Mae]

......and the mitigated gaul of AM (+ anyone supporting him) hiding away in some cushy spa "rehab" where he will remain anonymous and pampered instead of behind bars eating bologna on stale bread.

I love bologna sandwich, fried.

 

[Elley Mae]

Referencing the news article that LetsSolvit posted upthread. The people at PMPED found a check on Alex's desk that had been deposited into the bogus account. If he had already deposited the check, how was it physically on his desk? Once you deposit a check, you don't see the check again.

My daughter has some app or something for her bank, take a pic of check and its deposited in account.

Jmo

 

[Elley Mae]

You are right.......I guess I was thinking of jail house snitches. Rehab is not quite the same thing, as you point out ,correctly.

I was not really thinking of anyone being undercover with him in a therapy session a group meeting---more like when they are hanging in the jacuzzi, goofing around.

Like this.

REHAB MATES DELIVER BLOW TO SKAKEL WITH HIS OWN WORDS

REHAB MATES DELIVER BLOW TO SKAKEL WITH HIS OWN WORDS

 

[MaisieBella]

I love bologna sandwich, fried.

With mustard.

 

[Elley Mae]

Although there was no signed document approving that settlement filed with the court, on January 7, 2019, Fleming received a $505,000 check from one of the companies with which Murdaugh held an insurance policy, Lloyd’s Underwriters.

That same day, Fleming wrote a check for $403,500 to ‘Forge,’ a shell account that Murdaugh set up to funnel funds he was siphoning from his own former law firm, according to Peters, Murdaugh, Parker, Eltzroth, and Detrick (PMPED).

Satterfield attorneys: Documents show over $3M of death settlement funds diverted to Murdaugh shell account | WCBD News 2

Over the next two years, Fleming and Westendorf negotiated a payout of over $4 million from the two companies with which Murdaugh held insurance — Lloyd’s Underwriters and Nautilus Insurance Company. However, none of the associated documents were officially filed in court. Instead, the documents were approved by Judge Carmen Mullen, who previously recused herself from presiding over a separate Murdaugh case.

Mullen apparently approved the final multi-million dollar settlement which directed $2.765 million to the beneficiaries of the Satterfield estate on May 13, 2019. That same day, Fleming wrote another check to Forge for $2.9 million.

On October 5, 2020, Mullen oversaw the dismissal of the settlement, with both parties agreeing that they had come to a resolution.

On October 6, 2020, Fleming wrote a check to Forge for $168,000.

 

[clearskies1]

Although there was no signed document approving that settlement filed with the court, on January 7, 2019, Fleming received a $505,000 check from one of the companies with which Murdaugh held an insurance policy, Lloyd’s Underwriters.

That same day, Fleming wrote a check for $403,500 to ‘Forge,’ a shell account that Murdaugh set up to funnel funds he was siphoning from his own former law firm, according to Peters, Murdaugh, Parker, Eltzroth, and Detrick (PMPED).

Satterfield attorneys: Documents show over $3M of death settlement funds diverted to Murdaugh shell account | WCBD News 2

Over the next two years, Fleming and Westendorf negotiated a payout of over $4 million from the two companies with which Murdaugh held insurance — Lloyd’s Underwriters and Nautilus Insurance Company. However, none of the associated documents were officially filed in court. Instead, the documents were approved by Judge Carmen Mullen, who previously recused herself from presiding over a separate Murdaugh case.

Mullen apparently approved the final multi-million dollar settlement which directed $2.765 million to the beneficiaries of the Satterfield estate on May 13, 2019. That same day, Fleming wrote another check to Forge for $2.9 million.

On October 5, 2020, Mullen oversaw the dismissal of the settlement, with both parties agreeing that they had come to a resolution.

On October 6, 2020, Fleming wrote a check to Forge for $168,000.

Mind blowing. Is there anyone on the state level who could rein in this alleged behavior? I don't think so. Too dangerous. JMO.

 

[chaz]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MandyMatney/status/1445892285787349004
No words for this.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

First post from me on this fascinating case though familiar with sleuths from the Rhoden case. I just read as much as possible so before my eyes close wanted to add a couple thoughts.
I am in recovery over 10 years now. Familiar story prescribed at the beginning then anywhere I could find them at the end. JMO as always but my experience in rehab myself and then assisting other addicts tells me that there are standard protocols upon admission. First they test you. The staff will not take your word for what substances are in your system. Certainly doesn't in any way certify if AM has had a 20 year problem but believe me some of us are really good at functioning and keeping our secrets. That is until we aren't . But between those points the manipulation,lies and need to control everything are very familiar and again JMO AM is exactly the picture of an opioid addict. He spent years of his life juggling it all. Then as it always does his addiction began to unravel and he unraveled as well. Seems to me he has been covering for himself and his family for a long time. Living a lifestyle beyond his means along with practicing law and covering for his son took a toll. In no way does that excuse any of his subsequent actions but at least from here I believe the behavior fits with addiction. We can get better with sincere desire but it's no easy road.

I have certainly changed my opinions on the addiction. At first, I really truly just thought it was a great coverup to get distance. But more details about MM's knowledge of his high-profile functioning addiction really does make sense.

And your words say it perfect for this scenario. "Really good at functioning and keeping our secrets. That is until we aren't"

 

[Norrmajean]

There is probably an undercover or 2 in there, hoping for that.

I would say no undercover in rehab and of course anonymity is a guiding principle. However rehabs are full of folks with a couple days clean so the possibility of info leaking is highly probable given the high profile of AM. And I agree with the theory AM is using CS. Make it look like someone is targeting his family other than himself. Not for one second do I believe AM was unaware of his policy's suicide clause. Whatever his plan was it went wrong and the suicide story is nonsense again to divert and manipulate SLED. JMO of course. Also agree that rehab before jail is not the norm and bologna sandwiches behind bars seems way more appropriate. Lol

 

[raja]

Although there was no signed document approving that settlement filed with the court, on January 7, 2019, Fleming received a $505,000 check from one of the companies with which Murdaugh held an insurance policy, Lloyd’s Underwriters.

That same day, Fleming wrote a check for $403,500 to ‘Forge,’ a shell account that Murdaugh set up to funnel funds he was siphoning from his own former law firm, according to Peters, Murdaugh, Parker, Eltzroth, and Detrick (PMPED).

Satterfield attorneys: Documents show over $3M of death settlement funds diverted to Murdaugh shell account | WCBD News 2

Over the next two years, Fleming and Westendorf negotiated a payout of over $4 million from the two companies with which Murdaugh held insurance — Lloyd’s Underwriters and Nautilus Insurance Company. However, none of the associated documents were officially filed in court. Instead, the documents were approved by Judge Carmen Mullen, who previously recused herself from presiding over a separate Murdaugh case.

Mullen apparently approved the final multi-million dollar settlement which directed $2.765 million to the beneficiaries of the Satterfield estate on May 13, 2019. That same day, Fleming wrote another check to Forge for $2.9 million.

On October 5, 2020, Mullen oversaw the dismissal of the settlement, with both parties agreeing that they had come to a resolution.

On October 6, 2020, Fleming wrote a check to Forge for $168,000.

Did he get payouts because he claimed she fell at different properties he owned that were insured with different insurance companies?

 

[raja]

"A dead CES at the scene could have potentially have been blamed for all manner of crime."

That ^^ is one of my pet theories.

Was CES lured there, with AM planning g to shoot him in 'self defense'? And then of course claiming he was the killer of his wife and son, etc, etc.

The problem with that theory is---why didn't it happen? AM would have easily blindsided him.

AM needed CES’s fingerprints on the gun so it probably went down like CES said, they struggled, but CES won and ran with the gun.

 

[Norrmajean]

I have certainly changed my opinions on the addiction. At first, I really truly just thought it was a great coverup to get distance. But more details about MM's knowledge of his high-profile functioning addiction really does make sense.

And your words say it perfect for this scenario. "Really good at functioning and keeping our secrets. That is until we aren't"

I do want to add that as good at deception as an addict can be if this was truly a 20 year problem those close to AM knew. Interesting that those closest are now dead right? MOO

 

[meanmaryjean]

I do want to add that as good at deception as an addict can be if this was truly a 20 year problem those close to AM knew. Interesting that those closest are now dead right? MOO

The part about the addiction story that just doesn't ring true for me is the lack of progression. No one stays addicted to the same thing for 20 years without a significant impact on their health. OR progressing to other substances.
But to look as healthy and borderline overweight as AM does and be addicted to oxy for twenty years?
That's a 'nope' from me dawg.

 

[Antimony]

AM in Georgia?
Does Augusta National offer "Rehab" services?

 

[drama_farmer]

There's a vast amount of knowledge available, methinks, from office staff like secretaries, receptionists and assistants. They have to be involved in the day to day paper-shuffling. Imo

Yes!
And I'm wondering about the date on the check?
Unless, long, long ago, before email this and that, when we got our bank statements on paper in the mail, did we get the checks back too?
If so, AM was clever and thinking enough to find it and what was the purpose of putting it on the desk?

 

[Norrmajean]

The part about the addiction story that just doesn't ring true for me is the lack of progression. No one stays addicted to the same thing for 20 years without a significant impact on their health. OR progressing to other substances.
But to look as healthy and borderline overweight as AM does and be addicted to oxy for twenty years?
That's a 'nope' from me dawg.

The part about the addiction story that just doesn't ring true for me is the lack of progression. No one stays addicted to the same thing for 20 years without a significant impact on their health. OR progressing to other substances.
But to look as healthy and borderline overweight as AM does and be addicted to oxy for twenty years?
That's a 'nope' from me dawg.

Definitely agree on health impact if it was indeed 20 years. That's the part I doubt right along with you. That's a long time and probably meant to make him look sympathetic.