I know .. it's nuts though .. this is what I mean about her own PD getting in the way of an effective defence .. is there any precedent for this .. I really wish Nurmi would get up at the end and say that Jodi is her own worst enemy, the only strategy she would agree on involved trashing Travis, this was doomed to backfire and provoke the public and the jury, but she wouldn't listen, can you look beyond the strategy to simply what happened .. or something along those lines. I'm not saying she should get anything less than the DP, I just want a real argument based on truths, because a stupid art show, a druggie friend who hadn't seen her for years, an ex boyfriend who may have the IQ and moral backbone of a squid, and Jodi herself rambling on in the witness box about how awesome she is, just ain't going to cut it .. and I don't know, maybe I'd just like to see a worthy debate in there ..