Special Counsel Issues 1st Indictments

[CARIIS]

At last count I believe 42 out of 43 economists interviewed directly dispute everything you are claiming here. The middle class on down is specifically burdened as a result of this tax scam. It's only benefactors are corporations and the 1%. Those are facts. It's not even a debate. And as for the other part of your claim, the amount the Fed spends on social programs in this country in the grand scheme of things is a laughable pittance, and yet you insist on propagating the trope that the recipients of these programs are having any deleterious impact on the national budget or deficit. It's a ridiculous and demonstrably false claim.

The GOP has essentially stood around and thought, "What are the things we can do to most guarantee that there is an almost insurmountable financial burden further placed on those who are already not the top wealth holders in this country---let's do those!!!", and then they did it. Last night.

And don't forget all of those GOP Congress members admitting that this is all about paying back their donors anyway. They don't give a rip about anybody but those who continue to fund their war on the middle class and most vulnerable in our nation.

You have always been an amazing writer --I need to tell you this -- now -- a nuclear bomb may be soaring past !!!

 

[CARIIS]

In Flynn, Mueller unearths more lies _ and a key witness

WASHINGTON (AP) — More smoke but no smoking gun.

Michael Flynn's guilty plea Friday revealed a new layer of lies unearthed by the far-reaching investigation into ties between President Donald Trump and Russia, and put heightened scrutiny on the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. But Flynn's admission, and all of the criminal cases thus far, have not resolved the fundamental question special counsel Robert Mueller is seeking to answer: Did Trump's campaign collude with Russia to win the election?

Trump himself was eager to settle that question as he offered his first public response to Flynn's plea, saying Saturday: "What has been shown is no collusion, no collusion. There's been absolutely no collusion." ...

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/news-politics/20171202/US--Trump-Russia-Probe-eeaa

It is with regret that I must share my conclusion that he does not understand the meaning of the term!

24 hours after Obama put in place the sanctions Jarod telling them to blow off the sanctions (cost billions) is as clear a indicator that the message was we will take care of it for you after the 20th of jan

that is collusion............

what then happened

72 hours in the oval office -- this is what happened

TRUMP WHITE HOUSE MADE SECRET EFFORTS TO REMOVE RUSSIA SANCTIONS


I remember that night -- it was a sourced guy

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-white-house-secret-efforts-lift-russia-sanctions-putin-619508

None of them seem to be able to grasp that tons of stuff is on tape --- for 18 months -- there conversations with Russians are on tape

Why do they think FLynn had to come clean and tell them about phone calls ??

Carter Page was like on his third fisa court order --it gave them permission to true spy novel him

he was being tailed 24/7 for months -- in Moscow -- for months

his emails phone calls where he went who he saw what he said is on intercepts

National Security
[h=1]FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page[/h]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a742a6e93a7_story.html?utm_term=.cf5e75299cb4


they cant seem to grasp this

My little Carter has been public in his belief that his being tailed and every second of his life on tape is a violation of his rights

THey did it legally -- they went to the Fisa court , made their case and the 24/7 surveillance was authorized and renewed .

To get a fisa order you have to go and play the tapes . and PROVE that you have very serious concerns that this person is a danger to national security

It was approved - more than once - by the three judges on the FISA court

Fmr. Trump Advisor Carter Page Plans to Sue Obama Officials For Civil Rights Violations


https://lawandcrime.com/uncategoriz...-obama-officials-for-civil-rights-violations/

Flynn knows this -he was head of NSA -- he has heard all the intercepts!!

It is open source info -- Carter has been nailed lying over and over .

That is how he knows he was tailed - what is wrong with all these nuts ??

One knows the crime is on tape and the accomplices keep talking ??

Yates showed them the intercepts when she went over there

It is mo that they had to keep to FLynn on for a bit to try to explain to Putin what went wrong when they tried to lift sanctions - and discuss their future plans on how to do it

Tillerson has done it -- he let the dept that handles the sanctions go out of business! 70 days ago

Quietly !!

shhhhhhhhhhhhh

The State Department shuttered an office that oversees sanctions policy,

https://www.google.com/search?q=tillerson+sanctions+russia&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS702US702&oq=tillerson+sanctions+&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57.5430j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

its all disgusting

PUtin got his money worth -- he gave Jarod a lousy 285 million and got billions of sanctions off -- I hate math but that sounds like a deal to me!!!

IMO ALL of Jared's behavior has been solely about money and rescuing his building in NY that is hemorrhaging money

What - Putin gave Jarod 285 million bucks from a money laundering bank cause he was in a good mood!!

In her testimony in May, former acting Attorney General Sally Yates said she alerted the White House in January that Flynn could be "essentially blackmailed by the Russians."

How did they know this one mystery lover asks! Because its all on the tapes! That's how!

The lawyer they told is in deep doo doo -- Pence too -- he lied about being lied too! How is that for a killer ! Lying about lying!!


Our true crime story becomes even more intriguing............. did my Carter ever talk to Donnie directly -- if so it is on tape

first season cliffhanger...........................


hummmmmmmm.........

 

[rosemadderlake]

If you truly believe that, you need to perhaps start reading a little more about what's really in the tax bills being debated. Do you know that the top income earners get either NO reduction in tax rates, or just a measly one percent reduction in top tax rates? I forget which one is in which bill, House or Senate. As Orrin Hatch has been saying, the "benefit the rich" meme is the only false playbook the Democrats have used for years and years. Finally, we will get a bill that actually benefits the middle class, which no Democrat Congress has given us in ages, and which is sorely needed. My main complaint is neither bill goes far enough in reducing all taxes. Then, what the country desperately needs is for Congress to actually cut spending, and not simply cut the GROWTH of spending. Really try to wrap your mind around what the Fed. govt. actually spends, and what it is spent on. It's the spending that has broken us, and will destroy us. Especially when something like 40% of all citizens pay no income taxes at all, and many actually receive some type of govt. benefit while having no skin in the game. This isn't what the founders ever intended.

Well, I will be losing my HC soon, but congratulations on the biggest trillion dollar deficit ever passed. --Unbelievable that the "fiscal conservatives" have lost their minds. Who do you think is paying for this? Congratulations on the biggest middle class loss in history. Congratulations on the biggest loss for seniors ever passed. Yes, that's right, they, us, who have worked our whole lives, are so totally flocked, oops, fleeced, as of last night...

 

[bluesneakers]

Still nothing on Trump. Of course, Flynn contacted various foreign nations, AFTER the election. That was his job. Too bad, he lied to the FBI, which is the only crime here, a crime of process. As for Trump, GDP UP 3.3% (Obama never did that), STOCK MARKET SOARING!!!

Strike 3, Mueller, you're out!

Obstruction is something.

 

[TMAN2014]

--Get rich now while it lasts. But look out for the foreseeable future.

Mr Trump's friend Mr. Flynn, Mr lock 'er up? has been an insider, privy to national security info for quite some time, like since Sept 2016, and it is no secret who he will be flipping next, and next, and next, to save his sorry bacon for ever hooking up with trump.

Bases are loaded...

Nothing to flip, no crime, just a lot of smoke, and trying to get to the ending they want. The real crime is this unprecedented attack on a fairly elected President.

 

[Elley Mae]

ABC's Brian Ross suspended for erroneous report on Flynn plea deal

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42214214

ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Flynn report

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-ross-over-serious-error-in-flynn-report.html


https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/937089947126902784/photo/1

 

[Spellbound]

Nothing to flip, no crime, just a lot of smoke, and trying to get to the ending they want. The real crime is this unprecedented attack on a fairly elected President.

“Fairly elected”? Maybe. But just maybe this investigation is going to show it was not so fair. Collusion is illegal. So why are so many against allowing the investigation to continue? If it confirms it was all legally done, then there you go. Why so against finding out? The ending they seek is the truth, no attack on anyone unless they did something illegal.

 

[Elley Mae]

“Fairly elected”? Maybe. But just maybe this investigation is going to show it was not so fair. Collusion is illegal. So why are so many against allowing the investigation to continue? If it confirms it was all legally done, then there you go. Why so against finding out? The ending they seek is the truth, no attack on anyone unless they did something illegal.

Is there a link that “collusion” is illegal?
It can be said that it is illegal but that doesn’t make it so.

 

[Spellbound]

Is there a link that “collusion” is illegal?
It can be said that it is illegal but that doesn’t make it so.

By itself, no collusion by itself is not necessarily illegal. However, it is if it leads to other enforceable criminal activity ... such as campaign finance law, which prohibits foreign nationals from providing anything of value in connection with an election.

I am not going to get into picking apart specific words. You, as well as I, can find links that explain how collusion leads to illegal and chargeable offenses.

 

[simba16]

Nothing to flip, no crime, just a lot of smoke, and trying to get to the ending they want. The real crime is this unprecedented attack on a fairly elected President.

More evidence comes out every day. Thursday, before the Flynn flip, there was the New York Times bombshell report with Sen Burr going on the record in an interview saying how Trump asked him to drop Russia investigation. Other senators confirmed that they were pressured and asked to pressure Burr, who heads the Senate Intel Committee investigating Trump. This is evidence of intent to obstruct. I think at this point my golden retriever could get a conviction against Trump. The guy is such a criminal--just follow him around and you'll find evidence of a crime.

 

[simba16]

Is there a link that “collusion” is illegal?
It can be said that it is illegal but that doesn’t make it so.

Conspiracy to commit an illegal crime like dissemination of hacked emails is a crime. Curious that Don Jr was pen pal with Wikileaks.

 

[Elley Mae]

By itself, no collusion by itself is not necessarily illegal. However, it is if it leads to other enforceable criminal activity ... such as campaign finance law, which prohibits foreign nationals from providing anything of value in connection with an election.

I am not going to get into picking apart specific words. You, as well as I, can find links that explain how collusion leads to illegal and chargeable offenses.

Flynn’s actions were after the election, as a member of the transition team, after the election it was not illegal for those members to reach out to other countries.

Jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Flynn’s actions were after the election, as a member of the transition team, after the election it was not illegal for those members to reach out to other countries.

Jmo

Flynn is charged with lying to the FBI. He pleaded guilty. Why did he lie?

 

[rosemadderlake]

Nothing to flip, no crime, just a lot of smoke, and trying to get to the ending they want. The real crime is this unprecedented attack on a fairly elected President.

Don't know if you lived through Watergate. What became of another fairly elected president was exposed through a chain of lies that ultimately lead to one of the epic downfalls in history.

We've learned a lot since then. To say 'he was our crook' makes what is being investigated 'then' seem like child's play.

What I don't think trump supporters realize is if it were a dem in this position, the fury would be just as strong.

You don't get to lie over and over again for, in this case, a foreign adversary's best interest and get away with it.

How this happened is obviously being discovered as it moves up the chain of lies.

 

[cady]

Obstruction is something.

So is lying to the FBI. 5-year FELONY. And if he was "just doing his job" why did he lie to the FBI about it? Why did every one of them lie publicly about their Russian associations? If they felt that it was a natural matter in the course of a campaign and transition, one would think that they would be proud of their strategy and shout it from the rooftops. Their secrecy and obstruction gives them away. JMO

 

[CARIIS]

So is lying to the FBI. 5-year FELONY. And if he was "just doing his job" why did he lie to the FBI about it? Why did every one of them lie publicly about their Russian associations? If they felt that it was a natural matter in the course of a campaign and transition, one would think that they would be proud of their strategy and shout it from the rooftops. Their secrecy and obstruction gives them away. JMO

It is be interesting how fake news endorsers explain it all away when some intercepts become public

 

[simba16]

Today's New York Times quotes Trump transition member, K.T. McFarland, in email Russia "has just thrown the U.S. election to him."

 

[CARIIS]

Don't know if you lived through Watergate. What became of another fairly elected president was exposed through a chain of lies that ultimately lead to one of the epic downfalls in history.

We've learned a lot since then. To say 'he was our crook' makes what is being investigated now seem like child's play.

What I don't think trump supporters realize is if it were a dem in this position, the fury would be just as strong.

You don't get to lie over and over again for, in this case, a foreign adversary's best interest and get away with it.

How this happened is obviously being discovered as it moves up the chain of lies.

We are not allowed to foget follow the money!!!

IMO Jarods follow the money theme song is gonna be amazing

we know FinCen has gotten tons of banking info on all of them ---Manaforts 12 charges are clear indicator of that !!

So those that want to forget treason and political angle the question then becomes why support a bunch of sleezy folks who got there millions off the backs of drug dealers, human traffickers, etc etc

There felons -- the whole gang of em and ought to all go to jail on just those crimes

It is also highly likely that Fincin is working up quite a list of racketeering felony indictments

Forget the political -- they are gonna be serving time

There are reason why there were 12 charges guys

Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act



Under RICO, a person who has committed "at least two acts of racketeering activity" drawn from a list of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering if such acts are related in one of four specified ways to an "enterprise".

An amazing 15 min segment about Trump and Racketeering and Italian Mafia the Russia mob and drug lords and ripping off old people

Not fake news -- indictments were issued on all this sleaze

RICO lawsuit exposes Trump Russia ties on another front


Rachel Maddow looks at the checkered past of a Donald Trump business associate who may become a legal liability to Trump, and reports on the new access by the Senate Trump Russia investigation to FinCEN documents that will help them follow Trump's money.
Rachel Maddow looks at the checkered past of a Donald Trump business associate who may become a legal liability to Trump, and reports on the new access by the Senate Trump Russia investigation to FinCEN documents that will help them follow Trump's money.

Much much mofre here::
https://www.google.com/search?q=rac....69i57j0l5.10122j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/rico-lawsuit-exposes-trump-russia-ties-on-another-front-972462659701

We now have learned how this works wiht Pomp guy --they plead guilty and then go investigators the info they want

This is exactly what happened with Felix -- well Felix was very very very involved with ........................................ Donnie

ding ding ding​

 

[cady]

They know that they are busted. They can sing about chaos and ignorance and of course, HILLARY until the cows come home. I wonder how many of those who have been interviewed by Muellers professionals and FBI professionals have already lied in the course of their interviews......Mueller has already shown that lying to the FBI gets you convicted of a felony. Then, your only hope is to make a deal and flip. And wait for the mercy of the court as to your sentence. I am SO curious about Hope Hicks' interview w FBI.........JMO

 

[CARIIS]

Flynn’s actions were after the election, as a member of the transition team, after the election it was not illegal for those members to reach out to other countries.

Jmo

One is elected in Nov

One becomes president on Jan 20

Flynns bad bad crimes started in last week in dec-- they were undoing the president in power at the time -- a gentleman named Barrock Obama.

It is treason to be undermining the current president of the nation

Why do some seem not to understand that he plead guilty because he knows he could be charged with very very very lifelong sentences.

He took the lightest charge in order to try and avoid being hit with the multitudes of other far more serious crimes he committed and knows about all the others