State Motion to recover Investigative Costs

[Deleted member 39678]

From the moment she is given her Miranda rights she can shut her mouth no matter what she knows.

That's absolutely true.And that's what happened in this case.

 

[Hot Dogs]

Thank you. I knew what you meant. I think we will all see people taking posts and twisting them a little. I don't know why.

I take that offensively because you make it sound like I am intentionally taking what was written out of context.

This is important because it's what will be argued in the upcoming State of Florida suit against Casey. It will be argued that she did not know where Caylee was placed after the accidental drowning. It will be argued that she is not liable for expenses for trying to find dead Caylee because she could not have been of any help even if she confessed.

 

[katydid23]

She is liable for the costs of the OCSO search for a live Caylee. That didn't last very long for OCSO because of the car stench and cadaver dog alerts.

But the OCSO search for a dead Caylee is something she isn't liable for because that is the investigation of counts 1, 2 & 3 of which she was found not guilty. Presumably, even if she had told LE "what happened" she would have said that Caylee drowned in the pool but she doesn't know where her dad put the body. LE would still be holding her for murder. Then if they somehow did find the body, they would still proceed with murder charges against her.

Yes, except that she was the one who dumped the body, not George.

 

[Wishbone]

Here is what she said...



Note the bolding. "From day one" means that she knew where the body was on the day of death and afterwards. That means the pool and then the swamp.

The issue is that the defense (and presumably Casey too) never said that Casey knew where the body ended up after the drowning. That was a George/Kronk thing. They argued that there wasn't a body in the trunk because Casey didn't put dead Caylee in the trunk. They argued that dried leaves stuck to the car didn't match the swamp site because Casey didn't put Caylee in the swamp... somebody else did.

LE spent a lot of manpower and resources looking for a "live" Caylee thanks to that liar. Now she can pay for it!!!

 

[nomoresorrow]

She is liable for the costs of the OCSO search for a live Caylee. That didn't last very long for OCSO because of the car stench and cadaver dog alerts.

But the OCSO search for a dead Caylee is something she isn't liable for because that is the investigation of counts 1, 2 & 3 of which she was found not guilty. Presumably, even if she had told LE "what happened" she would have said that Caylee drowned in the pool but she doesn't know where her dad put the body. LE would still be holding her for murder. Then if they somehow did find the body, they would still proceed with murder charges against her.

Don't you think that if Casey HAD told LE that (Caylee drowned, GA disposed of the body...), it would have changed the dynamics of their investigation completely - GA would have been interrogated to the hilt to get answers, perhaps even arrested, thereby changing the entire landscape of the search and investigation. So I really still have to disagree with you. JMO~

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I take that offensively because you make it sound like I am intentionally taking what was written out of context.

This is important because it's what will be argued in the upcoming State of Florida suit against Casey. It will be argued that she did not know where Caylee was placed after the accidental drowning. It will be argued that she is not liable for expenses for trying to find dead Caylee because she could not have been of any help even if she confessed.

I'm sorry you take it that way. katydid23 explained in clear language what the context of her post was. You don't have to agree with her. There should be no more debate about context.You may get me on your side of this issue if you stick with the facts at hand.

 

[Robinez]

Doesn't need to be confirmed that she knew where the body was, just that she knew she was dead on June 16, 2008 and, according to the DT's OS, she did.

In the begining LE was looking for a live child. They were using resources to find Zanny, who ICA said could be in many different states. This was certainly a waste of time and $. Perhap's if ICA had told folks that Caylee was dead in the very begining the State wouldn't be persuing this.

TC, Robin

 

[Hot Dogs]

Don't you think that if Casey HAD told LE that (Caylee drowned, GA disposed of the body...), it would have changed the dynamics of their investigation completely - GA would have been interrogated to the hilt to get answers, perhaps even arrested, thereby changing the entire landscape of the search and investigation. So I really still have to disagree with you. JMO~

She wouldn't have said any of that because her lawyer would have advised her not to.

 

[Hot Dogs]

I'm sorry you take it that way. katydid23 explained in clear language what the context of her post was. You don't have to agree with her. There should be no more debate about context.You may get me on your side of this issue if you stick with the facts at hand.

"From day one" means at the pool and then at the swamp.

 

[MEM2010]

Nancy Grace says state is going after KC for 500K!

(dont shoot the messenger )

 

[nomoresorrow]

She wouldn't have said any of that because her lawyer would have advised her not to.

You're missing the point entirely. Of course she wouldn't have but she supposedly had the information based on her own attorneys opening statement.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

"From day one" means at the pool and then at the swamp.

Ok. She's wrong and your right. Does that change in any way the point or opinion she was trying to make? I don't think so. That's all I'm getting at. Nothing more.

 

[Cher352]

And those expenses are still mounting every day. Just look at all the county sheriffs and Orlando police have spent the last few days at the courthouse and the A's neighborhood. All because of her lies!

 

[Cher352]

Nancy Grace says state is going after KC for 500K!

(dont shoot the messenger )

Sounds a bit low to me.

 

[grandmaj]

There is absolutely no proof that George did anything. Those were unproven allegations made by the defense.

If you believe it when you post don't say George moved the body. You may say , you believe Mr. Baez's story that George moved the body. Without proof we are not going to use inflamatory language to start arguments on the thread.

 

[grandmaj]

Here are the rules...... we have started getting back to normal and enforcing our rules. This stuff outlined in this post has to stop.

2011.07.07 Sentencing Hearing Thread #2
Hi guys!

This is really important. Listen up. Please.

I GET IT. Really, I do. Many of us are devastated. Disappointed. Crushed. Disillusioned. Confused. Sad. And, not the least of which....ANGRY.

Obviously the mods have allowed HUGE stretches of leeway and allowed everyone to VENT. 2 days of "spill your guts time", with practical immunity from moderation. We've been here together for 3 years and, for so many of us, this verdict hurt like hell. There is no other way to put it. So, please know that we "get it".

That said, I got on here last night and cried when I saw what was happening in many of the threads. I didn't recognize this forum. Fighting between posters, unfounded accusations against some of the players - witnesses, attorneys and even the Judge Perry... This forum was littered with rumors and a pure mean spirit was hanging over it. It broke my heart.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT VERDICT TO TRASH THIS FORUM. You guys don't want that either. It is just not worth it. It just isn't. We all need to calm down. We need to think about what we are saying, how we are saying it. If you're feeling too upset, step away from the keyboard for a few minutes. The forum will still be here when you get back and you will probably be in a better mindset to be posting.


Here is the deal -
This is NOT a courtroom where someone gets to spin their latest wild-haired theory of the minute and accuse presumably innocent people of nefarious things WITHOUT ANY FACTS TO BACK IT UP. So, the next time I see some random accusations like I saw last night (ex. Judge Perry accepting bribes and Jeff Ashton being paid for his MSM interviews, among many, many others) you need to have a link to back up that keyboard or you will find yourself on a Time Out. This included the defense's theory about George Anthony. There is NO EVIDENCE that that man ever molested Casey other than defense team's wild accusations. We WILL NOT participate in continuing to crucify that man without EVIDENCE. What Casey Anthony, the proven pathological liar, says is NOT EVIDENCE. What rolls off of Jose Baez's tongue is NOT EVIDENCE. We have NEVER allowed rumors in this forum and we are not beginning now. Not happening.

One of the most disappointing things I saw was the fighting and personal insults hurled in anger at fellow posters. This is NOT the WWE (Worldwide Wrestling Entertainment) site and we will not permit any in-fighting between posters. I understand emotion makes us do crazy, out-of-character things at times, but this one is a deal breaker. Zero tolerance. If you've participated in this, stop now. Cut it out. Websleuthers are far above that kind of behavior. Come back home. You guys know how to behave.


Okay, this day is not going to be easy. Just remember the PURPOSE we have all been here for years now - CAYLEE. Today is about Casey and no matter what happens on the lying to LE charges today, it is all water under the bridge. Nothing that happens today is going to make up for what happened to little Caylee. It is easy to lose perspective when emotions are spiking - try not to.

Thank you all for all your dedication to Caylee over the past 3 years. I like to believe she could hear us fighting for her.

 

[NORCALGRL]

Okay, how about just showing the jail video of her anxiety attack the day the remains were found to prove she knew where the body was.

 

[rossva]

Except for the IRS, none of what you hope for applies if Casey moves out of the state of FLORIDA.

My hope is this: That the SA of Florida, ZFG, and TM are all able to quickly obtain an order to attach to any monies she may make telling her new lies to the media or book companies. The IRS will get theirs regardless. Then, let her go ahead and take someones money, only to have it go straight to the State of Florida, or TM, or ZFG according to the court orders of attachment. Then, I hope for no more offers. No more book sales. Nothing. That way, any blood money that she stands to make from this will never enter her hands and the hardworking men and women who were swindled will get some payback. MOO.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Except for the IRS, none of what you hope for applies if Casey moves out of the state of FLORIDA.

Why is that the case?

 

[Kimster]

Analysts say a total figure on the cost to the state and to the taxpayers has not been totaled, but the figure could be topping out at some $4.5 million.

One reason behind this astronomical amount is because once the State of Florida put the death penalty into the case, the financial cost of defending Casey Anthony got more expensive.

Many death penalty lawyers know how fast the money goes, and what it means to have a young, single woman with no visible source of income as the client so they cover themselves by declaring them indigent so the state will bear the costs, legal analysts said. <snipped>

http://www.christianpost.com/news/casey-anthony-trial-analysts-say-florida-will-foot-45m-51991