State Motion to recover Investigative Costs

[logicalgirl]

..at the sentencing hearing, when LDB brought up this motion, baez said "mr.mason will be handling this".

..LDB then asked judgeP if he wanted to address whether the defendant had to be there or not...

judgeP--"by the looks of the prelimnary figures, she won't be here (still in jail) she can come (shrugs) or not come".

cheney--"we'll be waiving her appearance".

Thanks for that - I must have been in "a blur" at that point...

 

[grandmaj]

I'd be surprised to see this hearing go too far. I think Baez will ask for a continuance since the charges which set this ability to collect costs is based on the lying charges she has appealed. All one big game. I believe that is why they appealed these guilty verdicts.

 

[Pink Panther]

bleh. JP "shrugged" and will "shrug" again. We've all seen the outcome.

Poor Caylee.

moo

 

[martea]

While I appreciate your knowledge and I don't doubt your post for a second but from ICA's past behavior, I doubt she leaves Florida for any length of time. While ICA "acts" like she despises her folks, she will soon learn she can not function normally in society without them. The A's were ICA's safety net, they made ICA seem normal. ICA may leave for a little while but she will be back. JMO.

I agree with what you wrote. KC needs Cindy and George. Even Lee didn't get very far away from them. There is something about dysfunctional families that they need each other and, somehow, the dysfunction works for them. It is just really too bad that little Caylee had to get mixed up in it.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

bleh. JP "shrugged" and will "shrug" again. We've all seen the outcome.

Poor Caylee.

moo

I don't see Perry doing the right thing here. He hasn't been "present" since before the trial imo. Too bad he was re elected as chief judge. The people deserve someone aggressive and who gets things done.

 

[LambChop]

I don't see Perry doing the right thing here. He hasn't been "present" since before the trial imo. Too bad he was re elected as chief judge. The people deserve someone aggressive and who gets things done.

JP got the job done. His function is to make sure she gets a fair trial and obviously KC did. This trial is a perfect example of what is wrong with the system and we should use this trial to get it fixed. No defense attorney should be able to make the statements JB did to the jury that he knew were untrue. And in my opinion if they slander someone just to benefit their client they should be held accountable. jmo

 

[ZsaZsa]

I agree with what you wrote. KC needs Cindy and George. Even Lee didn't get very far away from them. There is something about dysfunctional families that they need each other and, somehow, the dysfunction works for them. It is just really too bad that little Caylee had to get mixed up in it.

No one else will put up with them...

 

[ZsaZsa]

JP got the job done. His function is to make sure she gets a fair trial and obviously KC did. This trial is a perfect example of what is wrong with the system and we should use this trial to get it fixed. No defense attorney should be able to make the statements JB did to the jury that he knew were untrue. And in my opinion if they slander someone just to benefit their client they should be held accountable. jmo

I had high hopes going in, but he let JB walk all over him, let CM manipulate him with his old pal routine and all the while JP bullied JA. Where was the impartiality he is supposed to have?

 

[LambChop]

I had high hopes going in, but he let JB walk all over him, let CM manipulate him with his old pal routine and all the while JP bullied JA. Where was the impartiality he is supposed to have?

JP knew that JA would do a good job and let him know a few times JA's passion was getting the best of JA. On the other hand JB needed direction and CM was inclined to sit back and watch the circus evolve without correcting JB (possibly for appeal issues later) so it was up to JP to make sure KC was protected, not only from SA but from her own defense team. He was not asked to judge her guilt or innocence but he was obligated to protect her rights.

I would never want to face him but if I ever did anything wrong (other than his courtroom, lol) he would be the judge I would want or HHSS. jmo

 

[Horace Finklestein]

JP got the job done. His function is to make sure she gets a fair trial and obviously KC did. This trial is a perfect example of what is wrong with the system and we should use this trial to get it fixed. No defense attorney should be able to make the statements JB did to the jury that he knew were untrue. And in my opinion if they slander someone just to benefit their client they should be held accountable. jmo

She got more than a fair trial, the SA and the public didn't though imo.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

JP knew that JA would do a good job and let him know a few times JA's passion was getting the best of JA. On the other hand JB needed direction and CM was inclined to sit back and watch the circus evolve without correcting JB (possibly for appeal issues later) so it was up to JP to make sure KC was protected, not only from SA but from her own defense team. He was not asked to judge her guilt or innocence but he was obligated to protect her rights.

I would never want to face him but if I ever did anything wrong (other than his courtroom, lol) he would be the judge I would want or HHSS. jmo

I just don't see where that's at all appropriate. He was letting JB get away with lying, and he was basically telling him how to do things/holding his hand instructing him on things he should have already known...which is just wrong. God forbid he would pull that with a serial killer on trial or something and have them set free in part because of his grandiosity.

 

[ZsaZsa]

JP knew that JA would do a good job and let him know a few times JA's passion was getting the best of JA. On the other hand JB needed direction and CM was inclined to sit back and watch the circus evolve without correcting JB (possibly for appeal issues later) so it was up to JP to make sure KC was protected, not only from SA but from her own defense team. He was not asked to judge her guilt or innocence but he was obligated to protect her rights.

I would never want to face him but if I ever did anything wrong (other than his courtroom, lol) he would be the judge I would want or HHSS. jmo

Sorry, I saw it as pandering to a corrupt defense team.

 

[LambChop]

I just don't see where that's at all appropriate. He was letting JB get away with lying, and he was basically telling him how to do things/holding his hand instructing him on things he should have already known...which is just wrong. God forbid he would pull that with a serial killer on trial or something and have them set free in part because of his grandiosity.

What would you have had him do in his position? Tell JB he can't be her attorney because he's not qualified. Obviously the way the law is now it was perfectly fine for JB to do so as long as he had a qualified DP attorney at his side. If Florida residents wants this to change they have to start talking to their lawmakers. JP was clearly not happy with JB experience but what was he to do with him without it having a negative influence on the trial. We don't like the end results but it just makes it obvious that there need to be some changes before this happens again, or they may as well open all the jail cell doors and let everyone out. jmo

 

[LambChop]

She got more than a fair trial, the SA and the public didn't though imo.

I agree but the public wasn't on trial. However members of the public found her NG. Where do we go from here??? This jury did not do their job. They were in too much of a hurry to get back home. They were given a job to do which was look at the evidence, assign a weight to it and give some serious considerations to what was presented in court. They did the exact opposite and based a large majority of their opinions on the OS. They ignored the jury instructions. There has to be a way to fix it because normal jurys do not function this way. It was just so wrong in so many ways. There was every reason to believe that this jury was intelligent enough to follow instructions. I'd love to know what went wrong. jmo

 

[Tugela]

Surely they can only claim for the stuff she was convicted of? Since that did not require any significant investigation relative to the other charges, the allowable amount will probably be quite small.

 

[lauriej]

Surely they can only claim for the stuff she was convicted of? Since that did not require any significant investigation relative to the other charges, the allowable amount will probably be quite small.

..the state is only going for the period of july '08-dec.11 '08 when the remains were found---------costs associated with looking for her, due to kc's lies that caylee was 'missing'.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/072711-investigative-costs-for-casey-anthony

July 27/2011.
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Investigative costs for Casey Anthony

As the State of Florida's case against Casey Anthony was coming to a close, Prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick told the Chief Judge Belvin Perry the State Attorney's office wants Casey Anthony to pay up. Mainly, for the six months investigators spent looking for Caylee. During the trial the defense admitted, she wasn't missing, she was dead.

Now, the bills are rolling in, with the latest tally at $82,593.94. "I think that could be huge. It could be a really interesting hearing. I think judge made it really clear at sentencing he considers all costs of that entire period of time July through December 2008 due to her lies and there for her problems," said Diana Tennis, criminal defense attorney and FOX 35 legal analyst.

How often do defendants end up footing the bill for this? "Very often," said Tennis.

At the moment, in the court's eyes, Casey is still considered indigent and unable to pay for her council. So what if she still has no money down the road? "Doesn't matter. She can be sent to collections court. You get "X" amount per month and any time she comes into money, they'll be able to lien her for a larger amount.

 

[lauriej]

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28708283/detail.html
Total's In: Casey Cost Tops $500K

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The largest bill for the investigation and prosecution of Casey Anthony came in Friday from the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

OCSO says the investigation into Caylee Anthony's disappearance cost $293,123.77.

However, due to the fluid activity in the early days of the investigation, I could not fairly capture the investigative activities of all units involved.

Otherwise, the reimbursement for cost of investigation would certainly be larger," he wrote.

Zambouros said the price tag only includes investigative costs though the day Caylee's remains were found off of Suburban Drive.

The OCSO tally brings the total of investigation and prosecution costs to more than a half million dollars.

A hearing is scheduled for Aug. 25 to determine what costs Anthony will have to pay back. She is not expected to be present

ETA---------yikes! i didn't intend on that many individual quotes! or---the bold every 2 seconds...

 

[MissJames]

Surely they can only claim for the stuff she was convicted of? Since that did not require any significant investigation relative to the other charges, the allowable amount will probably be quite small.

Quite the opposite ,IMO. Three years after the fact she claims Caylee drowned in an accident. If she told LE that in July 2008 ,OCLE and the SA's office would not have spent thousands $$$$$$ on searches for Caylee, investigating Zeneida,following up on every tip of a live Caylee or a suspicious siting of something that might be connected to Caylee. The money spent on DNA testing,the hair band to prove Caylee was dead ,etc........All unecessary since Casey knew Caylee was dead.
Casey can't have it both ways. She owes Orange County taxpayers big time.

 

[krimekat]

Dang, and where is Caylee in all this . . . DEAD!

I cannot believe we are allowing this . . . this young woman consume our world. You know, more kids are abused every minute we waste time on this !!!

No Justice for Caylee

 

[Tugela]

Quite the opposite ,IMO. Three years after the fact she claims Caylee drowned in an accident. If she told LE that in July 2008 ,OCLE and the SA's office would not have spent thousands $$$$$$ on searches for Caylee, investigating Zeneida,following up on every tip of a live Caylee or a suspicious siting of something that might be connected to Caylee. The money spent on DNA testing,the hair band to prove Caylee was dead ,etc........All unecessary since Casey knew Caylee was dead.
Casey can't have it both ways. She owes Orange County taxpayers big time.

They would only have a legitimate claim for expenses incurred on the charges she was convicted of. Those would be the 4 lieing charges, and the period would be for expenses occurred directly as a result of those lies from the period they were made until the were shown to be untrue. My understanding is that it was established that they lies she was convicted of were shown to be false relatively quickly, so those are the only expenditures she should be held liable for. If they subsequently incurred expenses investigating stuff she wasn't telling them, and she was aquitted on those charges, she shouldn't be held responsible for those expenses.

They can claim for everything but if the court is doing it's job properly the award would be narrowed down to a very small part of that.