Steven Powell arrested in Washington State

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  • #861
What the LEO says in the audio interview at the link is interesting. He says they have never said Josh is the only person of interest - that they have always said he is a person of interest.

Well worth a listen.

Ok I listened and once again I hear what they set out to do was a success. This is the same thing they said on the search in Nevada.

So they must not have been looking for Susan or they set out not to find her or I don't know what.

Makes no sense.
 
  • #862
Man on a mission!!!!!

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  • #863
When he says the search was a success why didn't a reporter ask him how that could be if they did not find Susan.
 
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  • #865
They are applying the heat to S. Powell. Let's see who turns on the other one first. I'm guessing Josh does the fast talking.

That is the fascinating question to me too: Who will turn on who first? I am going to check some profile references and try to weigh in with a response based on organized offenders (SP) vs. disorganized offenders (JP).
 
  • #866
Thanks for posting!

I'll say this. I've followed this closer than any other crime in my lifetime. There are lots of reasons it's resonated with me: I am LDS; I live in Utah (other side of SLC from where Susan lived, but close enough); I am a little older, but close to the same age as Josh and Susan; I have two young children; I've gotten to know some of the related parties a little; and other stuff.

To make a long story short, I feel emotionally invested in this.

In addition, I've never seen a situation where someone has been treated worse than has Susan. I won't go through every level of it, because many here have followed it as closely as I - they know the score. But this poor woman can't defend herself. She can't protect what I have no doubt was her greatest asset, her boys. She can't defend her honor and reputation. She has been victimized over and over and over.

The Powells are innocent until proven guilty, and all of that. But, come on. The audacity these people have to continue slandering this poor woman is shocking and cowardly. And then there's Chuck Cox. He's either a masterful manipulator who is an artist at public relations; or he is a decent, kind-hearted, soft spoken man going through an unthinkable tragedy.

Throw in the fact that for almost two years, we've had tantalizing tastes of potential resolution to this. We've gotten our hopes up time and time again, only to have them dashed.

I'll admit. All of that has made me think really negatively of all things Powell.

I don’t think you really believe that criticizing Josh reflects negatively on Susan, do you? If that was the case, every person who had ever been abused or murdered by a spouse must have somehow deserved it, right? I mean, they did marry someone who turned out to be a bad person, right? Surely, their spouse’s evil must have been lurking deep down inside when they were married. So, logically, they sort of got what they asked for?

Like I said, I don’t think you really believe that.Sorry for the long post.

Of course I don't belive that criticizing Josh reflects negatively on Susan. But, there has been alot of bashing of Josh's physical appearance. I am not standing up for Josh, but his kids look like him and I don't think it is fair to make fun of his physical appearance. I was LDS when I married my DH. Married way too young but marrying young is pushed in the LDS church lest one has evil premarital sex. Of my husband's 5 brothers, all, married right off their missions and all are divorced now. There are a few affairs mixed in. Maybe she married too soon due to her LDS faith. I don't know.
 
  • #867
I just cannot wrap my small mind around what makes a pervert like this tick. Does anyone know more about what motivates a person to want to take pics of children in a tub? I just dont get it. There is nothing sexual about a child, I never understood that . I know the FBI makes profiles of weird-o's like this, is there a link or more info on these scum of earth types I can read about? thanks


[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia"]Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

dizzychick..here is some info on the scum type..
 
  • #868
I think Susan's case is going to be blown out of the water real soon.
 
  • #869
What a pig!! I just hope that anyone and everyone this man and his insanity has effected will feel safe now to come forward and get their due. What a sick sick pig! My word, he would be lucky to have been arrested if that was my daughter. Karma, forgive me for being happy he is in jail.
 
  • #870
Of course I don't belive that criticizing Josh reflects negatively on Susan. But, there has been alot of bashing of Josh's physical appearance. I am not standing up for Josh, but his kids look like him and I don't think it is fair to make fun of his physical appearance. I was LDS when I married my DH. Married way too young but marrying young is pushed in the LDS church lest one has evil premarital sex. Of my husband's 5 brothers, all, married right off their missions and all are divorced now. There are a few affairs mixed in. Maybe she married too soon due to her LDS faith. I don't know.

In my book mouth breather is the same thing as slack-jawed and those are both things that describe Josh when confronted with any serious questions about that night Susan disappeared. His jaw drops, he gets this lost, confused, tripping look about him and stutters.
 
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Here is another important thing that happened today.

In order to have the right to publish and slander his missing and probably dead wife Josh Powell went to court today and plead to a judge.

He did this after the State of WA came in and took his children away from him. Instead of trying to figure out how to get his kids back or camped out at the door of child services he was standing in a courtroom wanting to get permission to trash his children's mother.

This will be a big point in the custody hearing in favor of the Cox's.

This needs to be said and said often. His actions/inaction speak volumes. Incredible!

What a fine Friday. They took out the head of the compound and stopped the cash flow into it and got the innocent out.

A fine, fine Friday.

You're on a roll today Dr.Fessel!

I just cannot wrap my small mind around what makes a pervert like this tick. Does anyone know more about what motivates a person to want to take pics of children in a tub? I just dont get it. There is nothing sexual about a child, I never understood that . I know the FBI makes profiles of weird-o's like this, is there a link or more info on these scum of earth types I can read about? thanks

I have studied it for a long, long time and I still don't get it. As someone else stated above, it is about power. I would add control, domination and sadism to that. But how or why it is created, I don't really know. I do know that the generational dysfunction of the Powell family is what gothic horror stories are made of. This is one sick family. Steve Powell is kidnapped by his dad and alienated from his mother. Then he does the same thing to Josh's mother and now Josh's wife is missing and likely dead. Wow.

"The Coxes also Friday requested custody of Susan and Josh's two sons, ages 6 and 4, in a nearly 90-page document."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...charges-Chuck-Cox-blames-Josh-Powell-for.html

Wow! A 90 page document ready to go only hours after SP is arrested? No way. Their attorneys were working on this petition for child custody already. Good!

It was clear in some articles that they had this prepared for the eventuality of josh's arrest. Happily, although josh has not yet been arrested, another eventuality occurred that suffices for them to file.

And do not be alarmed. I think the Cox's stand a good chance of getting those kids on Wednesday. Child protective services can authorize emergency placement with a relative prior to a home check.
 
  • #873
In my book mouth breather is the same thing as slack-jawed and those are both things that describe Josh when confronted with any serious questions about that night Susan disappeared. His jaw drops, he gets this lost, confused, tripping look about him and stutters.

Josh Powell always struck me as bullied and abused by his father. I think SP is responsible for this situation and is the instigator that pushed things into motion or even did the deed himself with Josh's help (possibly against his will).
Who knows what footage he has and may have threatened Josh with it. Sad dysfunctional family.
 
  • #874
Correct. There was a defense attorney brought onto Dr. Drew just now who said their strategy will likely be to challenge that the search warrant was not related to what these items found were (and thus this may be why the sherriff earlier today was quick to point out the "typo" about "homicide investigation" being incorrect on the arrest), and also use the same CA strategy of saying that he was not the only one who had access to that computer, etc. to try to create reasonable doubt.

MOO.
If you read in the DA's affidavit somewhere it states that LE got a second search order. Like I said before I'm no attorney but when they started to look at items they took from the initial search warrant they saw one item that indicated a crime was committed not related to the Missing Person's case. The officer back off looking any more, and they got a new search request to view those items. Therefore the search is LEGAL and will stand. Go read it again carefully at the beginning when the DA talks about the officer.


I didn't mean my post to come off as rude or any other bad way. Sorry I was basically bring my point on a previous page forward again and since your post touched on the subject I used it as a sounding board to jump off again. This time I was ready with links. Please forgive me if my post was taken any other way.
 
  • #875
PierceSheriff Detective Ed Troyer
by Michigangal30
Steven Powell has not made bail as of 7 30 pm. If he does I will let media know.
 
  • #876
Jmho, the man I married was the man that I was divorced from after 21 years. I say it that way because 12 years into it I was made aware of so many things that had I known before hand I would have run the other way. He had the perfect job, family and freinds to help live a double life. It is so horendous to be deceived by so many. He pursued me. Susan had supporters, the church and family. The way my ex chipped away at me, wow. It was so so sick, if I dared tell anyone, we moved. So for anyone to say we dont know JP or SP, I am here to say sadly, some of us do. I will not fault religion, especially LDS, as I know and love many, just as I wont fault catholics, etc. The JPs and SPs are a dime a dozen and its the Mr Cox of the world who are becoming rare. Jmoo ps I dont argue politics or religion w my freinds and family and I am not about to do it here.
 
  • #877
On September 13,2011, Detective Sanders was contacted by Detective Maxwell from the West
Valley Police Department. Detective Maxwell reported that West Valley Police personnel had reviewed
numerous 8mm video tapes, VHS video tapes, and compact discs seized from Steven's bedroom.
Detective Maxwell reported there were thousands of images of females being videotaped without their
knowledge. Some of the images were of Susan Powell, but many of the images were of other females .
Most of these images were in public, but the photographer focused on the women's buttocks, breasts, and
intimate areas. Some of the images were not in public but appeared to have been videotaped through
windows with a telephoto lens. Numerous images were of female minors.
On September 17, 2011, Detective Sanders obtained a search warrant to access the 8mm
cassettes, compact discs, and VHS cassettes that were currently in West Valley City Police Department's
Office of the Prosecuting Attorney DEC LARA TION FOR DETERMINATION 930 Tacoma Avenue South, Room 946
OF PROBABLE CAUSE -1
BBM
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/251839/powell-charging-documents.pdf

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  • #878
Now I'm wondering about something someone posted earlier about maybe her being given heart medications or something (because she was so cold). Perhaps the child saw her grab her chest in pain that night from the drugs she may have ingested in the pancakes.

Normally, I would consider this somewhat farfetched (for my thinking), but after reading the statements from the neighbor that ate with them that day, saying that it took Josh forever to prepare a pancake dinner, and that he prepared and served everyone's plates individually ...it does make one wonder.
 
  • #879
The wording is a little confusing because the DA only put in they got the search warrant and made it appear the viewed all the items before the 2nd search warrant to view the items. However my guess is this was just an oversight. Just like the mistake with Homicide Investigation.

It is clear they saw a photo and stopped and got a search warrant to view the remainder. That is normal protocol. Again, I'm no cop or attorney, but my husband is an retired military cop and I did stay at a holiday inn express one night.

LOL
 
  • #880
Reminder----- we are all a little tense and have high hopes.

Argue the merits of the post do not personalize the post.

Personalization is arguing back and forth or being snotty. Words like you, you don't know, do you care to, or making other snotty, rude (snarky) comments is against the rules.

Discuss the post not the poster......

Let's keep the positive attitude going that there is finally a break in this case, that the children are safe and let's not eat each other up.

It is always imperative to keep other posters out of your post.

I'll give an example:

Wrong: You posters are all misjudging Josh Powell's motives.

Better: I personally believe that there may be more to this story than we know.


In voicing your opinion in this way other posters don't feel attacked. :)

Opinions on both sides should be welcomed and debated in a civil manner Please.
 
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