SUSPECT IN CUSTODY MN - 2 Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses were shot by someone impersonating a police officer, JUNE 13,2025

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rsbm

i wonder if she took three of their children with her? because why would other relatives choose to flee with her. jmo.
That was my assumption as well when reading she had 3 relatives with her- especially since it was mentioned upthread that 2 of the 5 children were grown/living out of the house.
 
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I doubt he’s been thinking rationally for quite a while. He seems to think he’s capable of doing a lot of things recently. Delusional might describe him. He thinks he’s some kind of super skilled assassin and security expert, but is neither.

I’m amazed he’s been able to evade LE this long. He must have had some help. JMO.
I'm actually starting to wonder if this is even his real name.
 
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Minnesota Africans United (MAU) in a statement to Newsweek: "We are devastated by the tragic and senseless act of violence that claimed the life of Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and left State Senator John Hoffman and their spouses critically injured. Our thoughts and heartfelt condolences go out to the families affected by this unimaginable loss. We are keeping Senator Hoffman and his wife in our prayers and wish them a full and swift recovery."

It added: "In response to inquiries we have received, we want to clarify that approximately three years ago, in August 2022, Mr. Vance Boelter participated in a virtual session of our trade and investment webinar focused on the Democratic Republic of Congo. His involvement was facilitated by a third-party recommendation. Mr. Boelter was never hired, paid, or contracted by Minnesota Africans United. He has never served in any official capacity, and we have had no contact with him since that one-time appearance. Minnesota Africans United is fully cooperating with law enforcement authorities as they carry out their investigation."
 
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Chopper 5 flew over Boelter’s home in rural Sibley County near Green Isle, where an armored vehicle and drones were spotted outside.

Boelter’s neighbor, Kevin Effertz, spoke with 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS reporter Ryan Raiche and said he and his family were “always pleasant people” and in the two years since they had moved in, there were no red flags leading up to Saturday’s targeted attacks.

I know a few people have mentioned Boelter's home, how long he has been there, etc. According to the neighbor in this article, Boelter & his family moved into that house about two years ago.
 
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You think he left identifying plates on the car he used? I assumed he likely had scrubbed the VIN number and swapped plates. But I think they can run an engine serial number and get a VIN just takes longer to get there.

He’s incredibly stupid if I’m wrong. Also don’t think they would have let her leave the home. Surely they were there immediately, not just a phone in to her?

Turns out he put fake paper plates on both front and back that said "POLICE."

You can see a clear shot of the front "plate" in this news video at 2m 47s.


At first I thought that was dumb because who would think a plate without numbers was real. But apparently in Minnesota, police cars that have clear police markings on them don't need to display a plate. So, it would pass at first glance if any of the victim's glanced out their window before answering the door.

However, his manifesto was in his car. While I didn't see any article say his name early on, none of them said anything about an unsigned or anonymous manifesto either. While a few people like Dylan Roof have posted their manifesto online anonymously, I can't think of any examples of people who left unsigned written ones.

While his name didn't start coming out in media until later in the day, at that point they were keeping A LOT of details close to the vest, not even releasing the door camera image of the shooter at the victims' doors to say "keep an eye out for this mask--if you see it in a park trash can or remember selling one like this to someone recently, call the police."

But, I could easily be wrong. This is all JMO, IMO, etc. Police didn't use a battering ram on the house where he rented a room until around 1:45. Why did it take that long? Had they really not talked to VB's wife before she would have had to be leaving home around 8? If they didn't talk to her until they stopped her in Onamia between 10-11. Maybe they didn't know about the rented room in the house until then?
 
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very very sad and unfortunate some people have felt the need to resort to violence in these times its such a loss for their families my heart breaaks for them
 
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IMO those positions sound very impressive however I think they are overblown if not just straight up lies.

Also his wife is listed as the the President of the security company and he’s a Director.

Sounds like a complicated guy with some very strong opinions and some serious mental health issues.

Hope he is caught before he hurts or kills someone else. He doesn’t plan on getting out of this alive.

MOO
His LinkedIn shows nearly 50 endorsements, and he did get appointed to Minnesota's Workforce Development Board, so I suspect that the stuff about having managerial positions in the food industry probably isn't too far from the truth.

 
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His LinkedIn shows nearly 50 endorsements, and he did get appointed to Minnesota's Workforce Development Board, so I suspect that the stuff about having managerial positions in the food industry probably isn't too far from the truth.

Interesting…

“Authorities said they're still investigating if Boelter knew the victims in Saturday's shootings, although it was known he served on a state workforce development board alongside Hoffman.”

Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman killed, State Sen. John Hoffman wounded in 'targeted political violence'
 
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Snipped

The text message, which Carlson read to reporters, said: "David and Ron, I love you guys. I made some choices, and you guys don't know anything about this, but I'm going to be gone for a while.

"May be dead shortly, so I just want to let you know I love you guys both and I wish it hadn't gone this way. I don't want to say anything more, I don't want to say anything more and implicate you in any way, because you guys don't know anything about this. But I love you guys and I'm sorry for all the trouble he has caused."


 
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Here is more about possible motives/ intentions from his roommate
IMO

New York Post

Carlson shared that Boetler, who was engaged in several ambitious business ventures including Praetorian Security Company and Red Lion Group, was experiencing financial trouble and struggled to find work, CNN reported.

“He was looking around, but maybe things didn’t work out and he just gave up and decided to go out in a blaze of glory,” Carlson said. “I have no idea what he was thinking.

When asked about the political leanings of Boetler, Carlson revealed that — despite once being a political appointee of the state’s Democratic Gov. Tim Walz — voted for President Donald Trump, but that he was not aware of his feelings on state politics, the report stated.
 
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That was my assumption as well when reading she had 3 relatives with her- especially since it was mentioned upthread that 2 of the 5 children were grown/living out of the house.
abc5 KSTB News

A manhunt is underway for Vance Boelter,

<modsnip - posting more than 10% is a copyright violation - see link>about 8 miles apart

Map Description/ Timeline
Onamia, MN over 1 hour North of Brooklyn Park, MN- wife stopped with three 10AM Sat
Brooklyn Park, MN is just NorthEast of Minneapolis- a suburb- where shootings 2-3AM Sat
Hortman’s and Hoffman’s homes are
Fremont Ave N Minneapolis- rental home where Boelter shared/roommates, busted car window
Green Isle, MN rural about an hour SouthEast of Minneapolis- Boelter family home

IMO
Geesh, hoping to wake up this Sun morning and hear Vance L Boelter was in custody, no such luck
Be safe, y’all!
 
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Maybe early versions of the news have been overwritten. I can't find it now, but when LE went to the Green Isle home iirc, the family wasn't there.

Green Isle, MN has a population of about 500 and is located in the central of nowhere. No police department, just county police. Still, one they had the name, I'm sure LE mobilized quickly.

If the family was already not home, when did they leave?

It's possible that LE had not spoken at all to the family until they were stopped in Onamia, a straight shot to Canada.

JMO
 
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I wonder what he was retrieving from this vehicle.
He certainly wasn't quick about it. Eerily unrushed.

When and where did he change, I wonder.

His movements looked to me consistent with retrieving items from the dashboard, glove box and maybe under the driver's seat, as he appeared to be leaning in quite a ways.

Maybe weapons, money, IDs, a phone or phones.

How'd he not known the ten gallon off his head?

I really expected an arrest overnight.

Surely today.

JMO
 
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If his wife was stopped in Onamia where are their children? Don't they have five kids? I know there are also victims of physical violence we need to pray for but I also feel so bad for the children of VL who are now forced into this crazy situation. They are victims too.
 

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