TX Suzanne Clark Simpson missing in San Antonio, last seen by friends at dinner - 6 October 2024 *Arrest*

[soap mama]

No, in my opinion, I think he hid her body somewhere in the house (or the pump house) overnight (while researching what to do with her body). I think that the purpose of the 12:33 am trip to HEB was to throw her phone in the dumpster there (so that it would ping there- so he could say that she lost her phone there). Then, later that morning, he took his daughter to school, went and picked up her body wrapped in the blue tarp and then headed straight to the whataburger (that’s where the tarp is seen for the first time -according to the arrest affidavit-) and Home Depot.

Good point about the HEB dumpster

 

[Bean&Cheese]

In regards to the Rivers out here, most of the easily accessible section either have no water or very little(and the water is very clear if not deep). Not enough to sink a body. The only sections that are going to have deep water are the privately dammed up sections with no public access. There is a city park in the town of Bandera that is deep at the damn but it’s right off of Main Street and completely visible by traffic and pedestrians. Very unlikely. Most plausible if BS used water too hide Suzanne is through private access to a deep damned section. Not to mention, we had 3-4in of rain in the past 3 weeks which likely erased tire tracks or boot prints in the caliche roads not commonly traveled.

Do you know what the rock cliff reservoir looks like at the moment?

 

[detectivewannab]

Do you know what the rock cliff reservoir looks like at the moment?

He changed from sandels to boots and was injured. It had to be quick. What about a deep ravine or hole? Maybe he fell. I don't think water because he had to buy water. Mo

 

[detectivewannab]

Interesting

Junk hauler spotted at missing mom Suzanne Simpson's home amid murder investigation

SAN ANTONIO - New development Friday afternoon in the Suzanne Simpson murder case.A junk hauler was seen out front of the Simpson home in Olmos Park, with some

news4sanantonio.com

 

[ImFine]

Do you know what the rock cliff reservoir looks like at the moment?

I do not. The land surrounding is entirely private owned so access to public is not available. With recent rains, I’m sure it has some depth at the damn, but going uphill gets thin real quick.

 

[ImFine]

He changed from sandels to boots and was injured. It had to be quick. What about a deep ravine or hole? Maybe he fell. I don't think water because he had to buy water. Mo

MO on the concrete and water is a five gallon bucket anchor. Commonly used for trot lines in this area when the lake had water.

BS appears to have the time to find the right place on the day that Bandera Sheriff office made contact with him sitting at the fire burning electronics to perform a wellness check in the late evening. What was he doing all day?

 

[detectivewannab]

Good point about the HEB dumpster

I may of miss it but do we know where her phone went?

 

[Bean&Cheese]

I may of miss it but do we know where her phone went?

No. All that we know is that it last pinged “in a business parking lot in Olmos Park” around 7:15am on 10/7… probably about the time when the battery would have run out?

 

[Hatch]

Y’all keep the faith Texas Rangers don’t give up and they play for keeps.

 

[Kittybunny]

I've gone back thru most of the Cotter stuff to try to find what you're referring to and can't.

The only thing I can come up with anyone else mentioned is the below when a fellow WS poster posted their theory about another buddy maybe being called to help.

But I'm assuming that's not what you were talking about?

Can you please help us find it so we don't have things "growing legs" that we don't have links for?

I did my best to try to find anything like what you were saying?

Thanks! (the below is about 20 pages in to Cotter related details)

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[ar3593]

So the blue tarp wasn't in the truck when he dropped the daughter off at school. It showed up at the Whattaburger in Boerne a little over an hour later.

Who know what he needed that Kendall County dump site for bc a previous post makes it look like a recycling site,

What are the ages of the other three children? Are all four children Brad's? Do any of the other 3 live at home with Suzanne?

From what I read, 2 children are living at home (minors); a 5-year-old daughter and a 15-year-old son—two other daughters; one being 18 or 19 and the other around 20 years old. I believe they are all Brad's but cannot confirm that.

 

[no greed]

Your first statement above is correct and matches the murder arrest affidavit. The explanation for how this happened is more complex and is NOT in that affidavit. In my opinion, it is almost certainly due to him picking up the blue tarp (again) at around 9 am in the shopping area, along S Main St that was searched extensively by police earlier in this investigation. Here, it appears that police know BS twice visited that parking lot.

The first visit was around midnight on Sunday, 10/6, where "midnight" is defined as the end of day (as it normally is). In that first visit, BS seemingly dropped off the blue tarp with the large bulky item wrapped and secured in it. In this case, that was about a 30-min drive from near the wooded/brushy area, so the round-trip time was about 1 hour, as observed by his neighbor and reported in the murder arrest affidavit.

The second visit was about 9 hours later at about 9 am, 10/7. In that second visit, BS seemingly picked up the blue tarp with the large bulky item wrapped and secured in it (from where he left it 9 hours before). Here, a good guess is in one of the two large green Waste Management dumpsters in the mobile home park adjacent to that parking lot. But there are other good guesses like that small green Waste Management dumpster by the Alamo Hospice or under the many trees north of that parking lot that separate it from private property. Police must know exactly where that was with business surveillance cameras and the black box from the truck. From there, I'd guess he drove his black truck north on S Main St, west on W Bandera Rd (which turns into State HWY 46 W), and turned left (in the left turn lane) into the Home Depot / Whataburger parking lot. That drive took about 5 min.

Regarding the Kendall County Solid Waste Site, he just discarded of the 3 white trash bags there according to the affidavit, probably in a blue Republic Services dumpster on the north end of the site. The south end of this site is for recycling. The north end of this site is for regular trash. Here, I'd guess he used the north end. He may have used this trip to decide if it was a good place to leave "the large bulky item wrapped and secured in a blue tarp". My guess is that he decided it wasn't a good place for that. Instead, my guess is he decided to gas up, buy water (to use with the Quikrete), and head about 30-min-drive further west, near the ranch, to do that critical disposal.

I think there is a very good chance you are correct about many of the actions that Brad took in those first hours following his likely murder of Suzanne. I have been trying to understand his actions that Sunday night and Monday morning. It seems it would have been dangerous and unlikely for him to bring Suzanne’s body back to the house. A neighbor or a child might discover such action. There was also some evidence that LE has that led them to the Boerne location that was thoroughly searched. Your accounting makes the most sense I have seen. I would add that the 12:30 AM on 10/07 in the HEB parking lot was probably just time for him to reset before returning home. He may have been doing a family location search of phones to see where family members were. Just my speculation.

 

[mrjitty]

Having read the PCA i don't see the accused being released anytime soon.

Apart from the mountain of circumstantial evidence, we have direct evidence of an altercation, the victim fleeing, and then she is never seen again. I don't see him getting out from under that given his suspicious travels the next morning.

As to where the body is, he actually did not have that much time/opportunity so I wonder if he has thrown a headfake with the concrete?

In other words he did simply take the dumpster option somewhere. Maybe he changed his mind.

 

[Bean&Cheese]

Having read the PCA i don't see the accused being released anytime soon.

Apart from the mountain of circumstantial evidence, we have direct evidence of an altercation, the victim fleeing, and then she is never seen again. I don't see him getting out from under that given his suspicious travels the next morning.

As to where the body is, he actually did not have that much time/opportunity so I wonder if he has thrown a headfake with the concrete?

In other words he did simply take the dumpster option somewhere. Maybe he changed his mind.

But, why take actions to hide the transaction by paying with cash? I think the Home Depot bucket and cement was used for a specific purpose… as a weight to keep her from surfacing from a liquid and/or to keep her from traveling down the sewer (if thrown into the sewer). No?

 

[Bean&Cheese]

But, why take actions to hide the transaction by paying with cash? I think the Home Depot bucket and cement was used for a specific purpose… as a weight to keep her from surfacing from a liquid and/or to keep her from traveling down the sewer (if thrown into the sewer). No?

The places that he wanted to be concealed from detection, in my opinion, were the places in which he turned off his phone. He turned off his phone during the time when we last see the blue tarp to when we don’t see the blue tarp. That is why, in my belief, her body has to be somewhere in Bandera… UNLESS he discussed what he did with Cotter and they later retrieved the body from Bandera and disposed of her elsewhere during the midnight between say 11pm in 10/7 and 3am on 10/8 for example (when there would be less people to witness the disposal). In a little bit, I will upload an article that speaks to the patterns of body disposals in domestic partner murders.

 

[findlisa5]

I think there is a very good chance you are correct about many of the actions that Brad took in those first hours following his likely murder of Suzanne. I have been trying to understand his actions that Sunday night and Monday morning. It seems it would have been dangerous and unlikely for him to bring Suzanne’s body back to the house. A neighbor or a child might discover such action. There was also some evidence that LE has that led them to the Boerne location that was thoroughly searched. Your accounting makes the most sense I have seen. I would add that the 12:30 AM on 10/07 in the HEB parking lot was probably just time for him to reset before returning home. He may have been doing a family location search of phones to see where family members were. Just my speculation.

Excellent point about Brad's black pickup truck being spotted at the HEB using surveillance video at 12:33 am on 10/7 (#16 on P. 4 in the murder arrest affidavit). This suggests the roughly 1-hour interval during which the neighbor saw BS leave in his truck and later return in his truck (as detailed in this affidavit) may have ended at about 12:33 am + 2 min (HEB to Simpson home driving time) = 12:35 am on 10/7 and started at about 12:35 am - 1 hour = 11:35 pm on 10/6.

Since the murder arrest affidavit also gives a time between the neighbor allegedly hearing the screams and the neighbor allegedly seeing BS leave in his truck of approximately 1 hour, then it suggests that the neighbor allegedly heard the screams at about 11:35 pm - 1 hour = 10:35 pm.

Note also that #16 details that, "The Defendant's truck bed is clear of any cargo besides a large ice chest at this time." Since, to me, it looks like this affidavit puts so much emphasis on "the large item wrapped and secured in the blue tarp", then this indicates to me that BS didn't have that item in his truck at 12:33 am on 10/7. If he did transport that item already, then that item seems to have been moved to a location about 30-min drive away and removed again from this truck (so during a round trip of about 1 hour). My guess is that location for first removal of that large bulky item is in Boerne and near the shopping area along S Main St extensively searched by police. By this theory, BS might have picked up that same item in that truck around 9 am on 10/7 and have driven a short distance to Whataburger in Boerne by 9:12 am on 10/7, where that item was now visible in the bed of this truck.

 

[Bean&Cheese]

Body Disposal in Homicide

Body disposal sites are the most objective crime scene locations available because they represent the last known whereabouts of the victim.

www.crime-scene-investigator.net

Please note that there are studies discussed in this article that are not based in the United States to which caution is needed in making generalizations… but, I will attempt to summarize.

1. Current studies show that offenders transport and dispose of bodies away from the crime scene (consistent with this case).

2. Offenders will, in order to mitigate risks of being identified, dispose of the body in places in which they are familiar (locations surrounding primary residence, neighborhood, or workplace). (I would actually tie in the Bandera property as a “second primary property” which is contradictory, but y’all know what I mean). An additional point is made in the study to include areas along the routes to the locations stated above.

My take away, and in my humble opinion based on what we know publicly so far, is that her body is in Bandera either on his property or within the neighborhood of 359 Highland drive. According to previous research on body disposal in rural homicides, 27% are disposed of in waterways, 36% concealed bodies on land, and the rest unconcealed on land (but, these are from offenders that are strangers to the victim). Only 7% of victims were dismembered.

With the involvement of the 5 gal bucket and 1 bag of cement WITH a lid that has not been found (like the large trash can, box of trash bags, firewood rack), I believe it to be with the body. I believe the tarp is with her body as it also has not been found. This leads me to believe that the bucket and cement were used as a weight- I know I keep repeating myself, but it is what makes the most sense to me. In medicine, we are taught to gather the data that we have and to hold more weight into the simplest unifying explanation instead of looking for zebras. Therefore, that is why I stand strong behind this belief.

 

[Knox]

In other words he did simply take the dumpster option somewhere. Maybe he changed his mind.

Good point, maybe the water disposal aspect went wrong somewhere along the way.

So if not at the orginally suspected dumpster, what are the other options? Would another dumpter location also mean the dumpster contents went to a different landfill than the one LE searched?

Does Cotter have specific knowledge, or was he smart enough to avoid the details of where Suzanne's final location is. In other words he aided in certain aspects, but doesn't have all the details?

 

[ImFine]

The places that he wanted to be concealed from detection, in my opinion, were the places in which he turned off his phone. He turned off his phone during the time when we last see the blue tarp to when we don’t see the blue tarp. That is why, in my belief, her body has to be somewhere in Bandera… UNLESS he discussed what he did with Cotter and they later retrieved the body from Bandera and disposed of her elsewhere during the midnight between say 11pm in 10/7 and 3am on 10/8 for example (when there would be less people to witness the disposal). In a little bit, I will upload an article that speaks to the patterns of body disposals in domestic partner murders.

I agree with the body location somewhere in the Bandera County area. BS whereabouts on 10/8 according affidavit put him in the Bandera area most of the day. In early TV LE interviews the Olmos police indicated that BS was uncooperative and “hiding out” in Bandera. He starts a text exchange with Cotter at 4:35p on 10/8 asking if he is in Bandera and too put the stuff and gun in well house. Obviously they had communicated earlier about what Cotter needed to gather and to put that **it in the pump house. A lot of pump houses are some distance from main house, usually out of distance of home cameras and security systems. Cotter text BS at 8:31pm on 10/8 saying “get over here!! I won’t tell!!!” This had to take place in Bandera. The other question, at what time did Bandera Sheriff make contact with BS on 10/8? At that time Bandera County was in an outside burn ban and that was probably reason for the contact because the sun had already set and the fire in which BS was burning electronics was visible. Was that prior to the Cotter text at 8:31p or after? Trying to find a way to get that info from SO.
It seems BS staged the body in his 13 minutes on 10/7 as evidenced of the HWY 46 camera at 1:41pm BS reentering Kendall county and no visible blue tarp and wood rack rearranged in the bed of truck. Had to be a place hidden from view and familiar spot because it was a quick drop. Cotter land? ( Having a hard time finding his land in Bandera in the appraisal website). Did he dump there without Cotter knowing (BS obviously had intimate knowledge of Cotter property) and that 8:51 text saying “get over here now, I won’t tell” was made after a Cotter discovery. At that point did they work in tandem to properly hide Susan? IMO, Susan was staged in the early afternoon 10/7 in Bandera County and 10/8 final staging and cleanup happened in Bandera County. Once again this is just an opinion based on affidavit evidence and timeline and knowledge of the area.

 

[Bean&Cheese]

I agree with the body location somewhere in the Bandera County area. BS whereabouts on 10/8 according affidavit put him in the Bandera area most of the day. In early TV LE interviews the Olmos police indicated that BS was uncooperative and “hiding out” in Bandera. He starts a text exchange with Cotter at 4:35p on 10/8 asking if he is in Bandera and too put the stuff and gun in well house. Obviously they had communicated earlier about what Cotter needed to gather and to put that **it in the pump house. A lot of pump houses are some distance from main house, usually out of distance of home cameras and security systems. Cotter text BS at 8:31pm on 10/8 saying “get over here!! I won’t tell!!!” This had to take place in Bandera. The other question, at what time did Bandera Sheriff make contact with BS on 10/8? At that time Bandera County was in an outside burn ban and that was probably reason for the contact because the sun had already set and the fire in which BS was burning electronics was visible. Was that prior to the Cotter text at 8:31p or after? Trying to find a way to get that info from SO.
It seems BS staged the body in his 13 minutes on 10/7 as evidenced of the HWY 46 camera at 1:41pm BS reentering Kendall county and no visible blue tarp and wood rack rearranged in the bed of truck. Had to be a place hidden from view and familiar spot because it was a quick drop. Cotter land? ( Having a hard time finding his land in Bandera in the appraisal website). Did he dump there without Cotter knowing (BS obviously had intimate knowledge of Cotter property) and that 8:51 text saying “get over here now, I won’t tell” was made after a Cotter discovery. At that point did they work in tandem to properly hide Susan? IMO, Susan was staged in the early afternoon 10/7 in Bandera County and 10/8 final staging and cleanup happened in Bandera County. Once again this is just an opinion based on affidavit evidence and timeline and knowledge of the area.

Yes, the messages between BS and Cotter are missing a lot of context which makes it confusing.

I agree with the body location somewhere in the Bandera County area. BS whereabouts on 10/8 according affidavit put him in the Bandera area most of the day. In early TV LE interviews the Olmos police indicated that BS was uncooperative and “hiding out” in Bandera. He starts a text exchange with Cotter at 4:35p on 10/8 asking if he is in Bandera and too put the stuff and gun in well house. Obviously they had communicated earlier about what Cotter needed to gather and to put that **it in the pump house. A lot of pump houses are some distance from main house, usually out of distance of home cameras and security systems. Cotter text BS at 8:31pm on 10/8 saying “get over here!! I won’t tell!!!” This had to take place in Bandera. The other question, at what time did Bandera Sheriff make contact with BS on 10/8? At that time Bandera County was in an outside burn ban and that was probably reason for the contact because the sun had already set and the fire in which BS was burning electronics was visible. Was that prior to the Cotter text at 8:31p or after? Trying to find a way to get that info from SO.
It seems BS staged the body in his 13 minutes on 10/7 as evidenced of the HWY 46 camera at 1:41pm BS reentering Kendall county and no visible blue tarp and wood rack rearranged in the bed of truck. Had to be a place hidden from view and familiar spot because it was a quick drop. Cotter land? ( Having a hard time finding his land in Bandera in the appraisal website). Did he dump there without Cotter knowing (BS obviously had intimate knowledge of Cotter property) and that 8:51 text saying “get over here now, I won’t tell” was made after a Cotter discovery. At that point did they work in tandem to properly hide Susan? IMO, Susan was staged in the early afternoon 10/7 in Bandera County and 10/8 final staging and cleanup happened in Bandera County. Once again this is just an opinion based on affidavit evidence and timeline and knowledge of the area.

do we know the addresses of the HEB, what’s burger and Home Depot that he went to?