Tampering Investigation Who? What? When? Where? We already know why!

[beach]

February 12, 2010

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/04/09/is-caseys-diary-important/

Well now...and JB was pressuring BC for items from the Anthony residence in April 2009.

People can think what you want about Conway, but at least he didn't succumb to the pressure of JB and, I feel sure, CA. He did the right thing, held on to it and turned this over to LE. Personally, I bet he could not wait to get rid of it.

God, I can't keep all these dates straight....I know BC resigned in 2010, but wasn't it after Feb.?

 

[sleutherontheside]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100848&highlight=Presentation+Group+Litigation

Thread about The Presentation Group

 

[LambChop]

I don't think they can ask Mort where he got that form because I believe it was JB or passed to him from the A's. Attorney/PI privilege I think would apply. They weren't allowed to ask DC about anything during the time he worked for Casey.

I don't believe Mort is JB's client. And if it involves a crime not sure if he is protected????

 

[The World According]

I don't think they can ask Mort where he got that form because I believe it was JB or passed to him from the A's. Attorney/PI privilege I think would apply. They weren't allowed to ask DC about anything during the time he worked for Casey.

Respectfully , if by they you mean LE or the State's attorney,I believe they can. Jose Baez got taken to SCHOOL about his very poor understanding of agency. Let me find that for you, it was hysterical!!! The state can serve Mort with a State Investigative subpoena and compel his answers to any questions about illegal activities. If he doesn't think so, he can call up Dom.

[ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5199086&postcount=15"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Dominic Casey: Motion to Strike Notice of Deposition & Motion for Protective Order#2[/ame]

Yes, the state may have asked for part of his LE interview to be sealed, the part that inspired the bar complaints made against Baez, it was...temporarily, iirc. However, the defense fought hard for Dom not to have to give sworn testimony, and so did Dominic's lawyer, Ms. Tennis.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuXZ3jqJ70[/ame]

( minute 5:59 )

Ms. Tennis and the state argued the matter in front of Mr. Baez although Mr. Baez was rather confused indeed. He was asking the judge to ignore statutes. Even Ms. Tennis conceded that of course the state had every right to interview him under a state subpoena. The difference between that and a normal depo was that the defense lawyer would not be present. She was concerned about a transcript of his depo being released in discovery. Andrea was whispering "Jose,... Jose", trying to give him clues at that hearing, but I honestly do not think he understood the rules. Ms. Tennis argued that he should not have to testify period, due to privilege issues. Of course the state argued that none exist and they are not bound by any would be private confidentiality agreement. The judge concurred and told the state to go ahead with his depo with the time they had already scheduled.

Mrs. Drane Burdick had even called Baez in advance to inquire if he wanted to add Dom to his witness list. Everyone went above and beyond to try to give him clues. If one doesn't understand the rules, that is what the law library is for. When he shows up at hearings thoroughly unprepared, the judge cannot be blamed. The blame can be laid directly where the fault lies, the guy that spent two hundred seventy five thousand dollars without deposing Dominic, LE or FBI agents. You just can't make this stuff up!

 

[nums24]

I said something similar on the other thread. I agree that TM was the one that started this whole thing or at least goes back that far. He stated in court Caylee's body wasn't there and he could prove it. The SA's called him on it and wanted discovery. Of course that never happened. All these other things fall squarely on JB.

Yes, TMac did start this at 8/21/09 hearing. Here is the state's motion to compel: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/08/reciprocal.to.compel1.pdf

 

[nums24]

Well now...and JB was pressuring BC for items from the Anthony residence in April 2009.

People can think what you want about Conway, but at least he didn't succumb to the pressure of JB and, I feel sure, CA. He did the right thing, held on to it and turned this over to LE. Personally, I bet he could not wait to get rid of it.

God, I can't keep all these dates straight....I know BC resigned in 2010, but wasn't it after Feb.?

BC resigned 8/16/2010, same date as LB's first deposition with the state.

 

[ynotdivein]

Can I get a :rocker: for all the awesome sleuthing that's been done on the BC interview already?

 

[nums24]

There's that date again!!!

Now it appears that on February 12 of this year John Allen did take possession of the diary (from above link)

Same time SA filed requesting ex parte with Strickland without defense present "due to new information being investigated"...

February 12, 2010 is also the date of the letter the A's allegedly sent to BC to revoke their waiver. Page 26: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/courtmotionsTQS.pdf

 

[Aedrys]

BC resigned 8/16/2010, same date as LB's first deposition with the state.

We now know that wasn't a coincidence.

 

[The World According]

Yes, TMac did start this at 8/21/09 hearing. Here is the state's motion to compel: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/08/reciprocal.to.compel1.pdf

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj2O5sZj_uU[/ame]
Here he is in all of his bs glory. He made statements that simply were not true.
Watch how hopeful and scared at the same time Casey looks while Todd argues to the judge. I remember Judge Strickland later gave Jose Baez until February 1, 2010 to produce these witnesses Todd claimed here. At that time, Jose said..."Hold on....we still need time to fully investigate and bounce things back and forth, and verify statements." Hello....wouldn't you have done that BEFORE Todd made those claims to the court? So what you are pointing out that this is nothing new for the defense to make misrepresentations to the court, and indeed Todd sure set the tone for it.
Very beginning of this tape
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae5J_ObjkTw[/ame]
If you haven't seen this one in awhile it is must see.....Linda Drane Burdick takes Jose Baez to SCHOOL!!!! It is my favorite, hands down, even now. I love Mrs. Drane Burdick at this six minute mark, I think she sums up the entire case...
"It is a farce!"
"The defense efforts do not even come close to the legal requirements necessary for the court to even entertain the motions,
their motions are replete with errors from top to bottom, it is insufficient as a matter of law,
there has not even been a good faith effort, clearly, according to case law,
and the court should not even entertain the motion."

Mops, anyone? Even funnier, watch Jose Baez's body language and expressions.

 

[strach304]

State did not listen to recording, it would be illegal, here is SAO Motion :

Here is State's motion: http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...ing of Interview of Joe Jordan 12-09-2009.pdf

Here is defense Motion:
http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...ecorded Statement of Joe Jordan 4-25-2010.pdf

Here are the related orders:

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...ing of Interview of Joe Jordan 12-16-2009.pdf


http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan 4-7-2010.pdf

I remember that but SA or CE distinctly said to BC in the transcript that he had heard it.

 

[strach304]

I bet that's a legal question Jose WILL know the answer to very soon.

That's hilarious :great:

 

[nums24]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100848&highlight=Presentation+Group+Litigation

Thread about The Presentation Group

While the link to the resume no longer works, George Anthony worked for this company, I will try to find another link to it:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5440088"]2010.07.19 Defense is Investigating George - Page 29 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


Here is a working link to GA's resume: http://www.postjobfree.com/Resume.aspx?id=3031313d5cda40d28eaea865e485a06e

 

[sumbunny]

I have to say thank you a zillion times to everybody on this site for all your smarts and hard work and insight and knowledge and passion. As a layperson, of everything really, I have a very hard time understanding implications of things, I'm one of those that need things outlined in easy terms with bullets, followed by "in other words, it's like this..." in order to understand most of it. I hope I'm not alone in this, I would hope that there are thousands of WS readers who don't register, or maybe register but don't post for fear of sounding inferior. Well, I know I"m inferior, so I"ll be the one to stand up and say I'm just not sure I get what's going on here. I am so confused about all of this.

I guess my biggest point of confusion is ... why oh why oh why would Baez be doing ANY of this to begin with? I mean, is Casey THAT good looking? Was $275K THAT much money to him? Is the free publicity and hope of a better future clientele THAT enticing? Or is he really that horrible of a person? Cause deep down, there really is no justification I can find for any of this, if it's all true, other than one would just have to really be the bottom trenches of humanity to put ANYTHING before a murdered baby, particularly one's own livelihood. I just don't get it.

I'm starting to think Baez doesn't want to "play lawyer" anymore, and wants to become NOTORIOUS.
More money to be had getting thrown off a big case. He can write books, do television interviews, on how to go from lawyer to criminal in two shakes of a lambs tail.

MOO of course

 

[sleutherontheside]

Oh this is all coming full circle.

Remember that Jose had a guy named J.P. Manterola working for him?

JP Manterola worked for The Presentation Group before he was listed on JB's website.

Recall that he went to visit KC ALONE a few times?

 

[The World According]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5IrzGBLLjg[/ame]

 

[strach304]

I'll have to go back and read, but perhaps he meant "we heard ABOUT that" when he said "we heard that"....

I'm going to go back and read it again too. I thought he did say they had heard it and even told BC that when looking at JJ statement and comparing it to the audio it was quite different.

 

[ynotdivein]

if we are looking at the blanket patern of behavior, we also have;

Respectfully snipped for focus:

- We have JB showing up at the crime scene with Dr. Henry Lee while it is being processed by LE. (OK in and of itself this one may be nothing. But given Dr. Lee's history, and some of the other defense activities, one has to wonder. It was enough to make the judge hinky enough to order that the defense examinations of the evidence be witnessed by the SA and videotaped).

TY fae for reminding me of this one. HOW on earth did the defense atty and a potential expert witness decide that this was the find they needed to be there for??? Did they learn that via KC or CA? Add that to KC's reaction to this find and :cow: you end up with hinky.

No matter how you slice it, JB has a huge amount of questions that will need to be answered at some point.

Yes yes yes. But WHEN?

 

[The World According]

Oh this is all coming full circle.

Remember that Jose had a guy named J.P. Manterola working for him?

JP Manterola worked for The Presentation Group before he was listed on JB's website.

Recall that he went to visit KC ALONE a few times?

OMG Sleuther, if he is who I think he is, I do recall his photo and bio being on Jose's website, but when one would call to inquire about him the receptionist answered that no one by that name worked there. Next thing you know, just like magic....poof the guy's photo and bio disappeared off of the Baez law firm website, (if I am remembering the correct man, he was in production/media too). I think Jose has a very poor understanding of exactly who he can umbrella as working with him or having an agency relationship with his law firm, a VERY poor understanding. Remember when he thought that included any, private investigators, body guards and or bail bondsmen?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiS8nlr0Tdo[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq3YTahSn38[/ame]


THE DEFENSE, FOR TWO MONTHS HELD ONTO TWO DOZEN ITEMS they removed from the Anthony home, remember this?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0deAi61LVw[/ame]
There was a list of things Baez took from the house, to allegedly do their own DNA testing. :floorlaugh:
They had an absolute duty to disclose that to the state so that the state would have an opportunity to object to it before they did any testing that would forever change the items. In the words of Jeff Ashton, "This feigning of ignorance is getting old". So since he had all of these, what more did he want Brad to snag?

The list included things the defense later learned the FBI was interested in
Spiderman toothbrush
baby books,
puzzles pieces
Caylee Anthony's toys

 

[DaughterAlice]

Could some please provide the Dummy's version of what's this all about? :waitasec:

Have pity on me please! I've been sick for days & now I'm so doped up on cold medicine I don't know which way is up. Plus my kids feel GREAT and are putting constant demands on me & my also sick (but not quite as sick) husband. (Is it bedtime yet??)

Everyone seems to know what's going on, but all I see are links on upon links, and page after page of detailed discussions. Yes, I feel like a big ole' :loser:.

I get the gist of it: JB did something underhanded to BC, who dropped out because of it. It was concerning seeing TES documents?? I recall something about this many months back.

Anyone who can sum it up in the fewest, simplest words, gets a lollipop. Sorry it will be leftover from Halloween. It's all I've got.