Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #3

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Sorry if posted:

Thailand cave rescue: Aunt of trapped coach Ekkapol Chantawong unsure of nephew’s status

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ETA, it will probably want you to suscribe to read.
Not much we didn't know anyway.
 
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Watching HLNas an ambulance was leaving, one could see several people through the back doors smiling, laughing hugging and giving high fives.

Nice to hear that :) Thanks for sharing with us.
 
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The children aren't subject to the bends, but the divers are. They have made many, many trips back and forth. They are physically tired, probably underfed. They need rest time at the surface to expel nitrogen from the body. Dive physics can't be bent, only broken, with disastrous results. The poorer the diver's condition, the greater the danger of decompression sickness.

I have to confess, I am irritated at calls for the Coach to be prosecuted. This is Thailand ~ what is protocol in the US has nothing to do with it. It is comparing apples and giraffes. These are free-range kids, much as I was in the 50's.

If the Coach is prosecuted, what will happen the children's psyche?

I'm really, really, really worried that the poor coach might become suicidal.
But then again, he was a Buddhist monk...
but then again, this was very traumatic...

I don't want to see him go to jail either.
If they feel they need to press charges, then community service (which he already does on his own.)
I just want for him to enjoy his Gma's chili sauce pork rind, and recover well, before he might have to face any legalities.
He's learned, and he'll have lots more wisdom to share now.
 
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Why the pause in the rescue now? Explained here:

Thai cave mission running 'smoothly'
However, Narongsak Osottanakorn, Chiang Rai province governor and head of the rescue operation, did explain it to journalists earlier - and we now have a full translation of what he said, which you can read below:

We will be able to continue the rescue operation when we are ready to do so.

We will be ready soon, because we will need to redo laying out all of the air tanks and all systems along the way again.

We have used everything [in the set up] that we had today. The set up team will do their work again once they are ready.

It'll be difficult to tell exactly when the next [evacuation] will start. But I guess it will be ready in the next 10-20 hours.''

So the rescue mission to bring the eight boys and their coach to safety is scheduled to begin again on Monday
 
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Okay my dears-- I'm for bed. It's past midnight and I have to do a bunch of things in the morning.

Thank you all for hanging on in this event. It warms the heart to see so many people from all over the world, from many faiths and lifestyles and learning coming together for our Wild Boars. We see it here, and we see it in the international effort to rescue all of our young men. It's a pleasure to behold.

Now it is time for the resupply teams go in and set up more oxygen and checking the guide ropes, and I hope all of the divers, all of the rescuers can get a bit of a rest and feel that our collective arms are around them.

A few more hours until our next miracle! And of course we are all hoping for updates on our first four Wild Boars-- may they all be in good health. Why stop at just one or two miracles, right?

May you all be blessed as well. Catch you all later!

Good night Sun! Have a good rest, we'll see you here tomorrow for more miracles for sure. :)
 
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I'm really, really, really worried that the poor coach might become suicidal.
But then again, he was a Buddhist monk...
but then again, this was very traumatic...

I don't want to see him go to jail either.
If they feel they need to press charges, then community service (which he already does on his own.)
I just want for him to enjoy his Gma's chili sauce pork rind, and recover well, before he might have to face any legalities.
He's learned, and he'll have lots more wisdom to share now.
I really don't think there will be charges. The families knew they were going in the cave and they had even been in the cave before. The sign warning starts in July too. This was a freaky mishap with nobody at fault. Since the ordeal began the coach has taken care of the boys. I don't think they would all be alive had it not been for him.
 
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Saw the good news on my Yahoo news feed - 4 boys rescued and 8 more to go - this is nothing short of a miracle.

Plus Coach. ❤️
 
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I'm really, really, really worried that the poor coach might become suicidal.
But then again, he was a Buddhist monk...
but then again, this was very traumatic...

I don't want to see him go to jail either.
If they feel they need to press charges, then community service (which he already does on his own.)
I just want for him to enjoy his Gma's chili sauce pork rind, and recover well, before he might have to face any legalities.
He's learned, and he'll have lots more wisdom to share now.
He kept the boys together and alive for 9 days. I think he'll be regarded as a hero.
 
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Thailand cave rescue: Evacuation of 12 trapped schoolboys from Tham Luang

It's now pouring at #ThamLuang cave complex. Authorities said weather, water levels inside caves could affect evacuation Thailand cave rescue: Evacuation of 12 trapped schoolboys from Tham Luangpic.twitter.com/saBXipGPHB

— Pichayada P. (@PichayadaCNA) July 8, 2018

This is very worrisome. I understand the crew that has been diving needs to rest, but I don't think anyone should wait 10-20 hours. Cant' they assemble another dive team and brief them? I know these are elite dive experts, but the wait period has me very concerned.
 
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Oh please not. Aren't there more divers and equipment that they can send in??
Apparently they need to line the way with newly filled tanks. They used them all up bringing out the 4. Then the rescue divers will go in and get more of the boys. I'm not sure if the heavy rains will hinder this or not. Hopefully they can still work in the cave.
 
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Interesting reading this part:

Thailand Cave Rescue Live Updates: Four Boys Are Out, 9 to Go
Why can’t the boys swim?
A Thai official has said that some members of the boys’ soccer team trapped in the flooded Tham Luang Cave network don’t know how to swim, further complicating the rescue effort.

In Southeast Asia, not knowing how to swim is normal.

A key reason is that many mothers in the region believe that teaching their children to swim will increase the risk of them drowning, said Michael Linnan, the technical director at the Alliance for Safe Children, a nonprofit based in Atlanta that has worked extensively in the region.

Dr. Linnan said it was not uncommon to see rates of swimming in low- and middle-income countries that is “well below” 20 percent, even among sailors, fishermen and others who earn their living on the water.

Drowning is a leading cause of death among children in low- and middle-income countries in Asia, Unicef said in a 2012 report. Unlike in high-income countries, the report said, the danger to children typically comes not from swimming pools but from daily exposure to water and “spontaneous actions that put them at risk.”

In Thailand, the Health Ministry reported in 2014 that drowning was the primary cause of death among children under 15. It said an average of four children in Thailand died every day from drowning, a rate that was five to 15 times higher than those for developed countries.
 
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I don't know if this will work, but I posted in the past thread and copied it to here:

Interesting article about how the boys spent their day before entering the cave and a bit about a few of them and their interests. it's a WSJ article and I could not read it on their page (have to be a subscriber or only allowed a few per month, I think) ‘Where Have You Guys Been?’: Thai Cave Challenge Quickly Became a Trap

But if you go to their FB page you can click on the post re the text message and it will open in full: ‘Where Have You Guys Been?’: Thai Cave Challenge Quickly Became a Trap
Aww! The captain of the soccer team Dom has a birthday today. I wonder if he was one of the first group of boys out today? Happy birthday Dom!
 
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Thailand cave rescue: four boys taken to hospital; operation to resume later – live
What we know so far

  • Four of the boys have been rescued from the Tham Luang caves in Chiang Rai province, with nine people still trapped underground
  • All four boys safely reached a hospital in Chiang Rai, the nearest major city
  • The operation is scheduled to resume at around 8am local timewith officials and volunteers buoyed by the success of their chosen method insofar
  • The remaining eight boys and their coach remain underground at the original location near to Pattaya beach
  • When they reached the surface, the divers turned and hugged the boys, who wore full-face scuba masks, after completing the 3.2km journey through the muddy, jagged cave
  • Rain on Saturday evening and throughout Sunday was thought to be the catalyst for the rescue operation but appears not to have significantly slowed its progress
  • The operation proceeded much faster than expected due to the walkable water level in the cave after it was launched at 10am local time on Sunday
  • 13 foreign divers and five Thai navy Seals made up the rescue team and were among a team of 90 divers involved in the rescue effort overall
 
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Yes, it absolutely is! And part of this miracle is how it has brought the world together in love and determination to save these children. As I said upthread, it really gives me hope. Since there is a documentary coming out right now about Fred Rogers, (Mr. Rogers) it reminds me of one of his quotes that seems very applicable right now. Something his mother told him:

"You will always find people who are helping,'” Fred Rogers wrote in the Mister Rogers Parenting Book. He continued: “To this day, especially in times of 'disaster,' I remember my mother's words and I am always comforted by realizing that there are still so many helpers — so many caring people in this world.”

Yes, lately, well, for a very long time really, I have been repulsed to be part of the human species. But this event has helped me to recover a bit.
And has really solidified my faith. Of course that would come crashing down, if the rest of the 13 were not to get safely out alive. But I need not worry about that. :)
 
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