Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #3

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Wow, Great 3D graphic! Thanks ABC

Graphic showing cross section of the cave


There's a 3D graphic explaining the topography and layout of the cave on our main news story today, but here's a still image so you can see some of the terrain and underwater passages the boys will be moving through as the rescue progresses.

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Amalie Finlayson about 4 hours ago(Updated: about 4 hours ago)
 
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Good morning from Scotland. Looking forward to these boys getting out and hugging their parents. I hope there is someone for the coach, seeing as he lost his entire family :( he will need a hug too.
Coach has his Aunt waiting for his return with the other parents.
 
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"CNN's David McKenzie, who is near the cave, took a photo showing heavy sheets of rain falling in the catchment area of the cave system. McKenzie says that it's a "total whiteout" over the mountain and that it's "pouring rain."

The assumption is that it could flow into the cave, potentially hampering rescue efforts."

Photo: "Heavy rains are now falling in the catchment area of the cave system. David McKenzie/CNN"

I think the rain has stopped or is very light at the media centre (?not even sure that's the location shown). Unless it's old vision that ABC is showing on TV. Don't think it is though as nothing is really happening, just people walking around.
 
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I wonder if Canada has offered any help?! Has anyone read anything? So many nations coming together once again. AmaZing what can happen when there is one common goal.
 
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Calming meds can lower the boys' body temperature and their breathing rate, and impede their decision making ability, especially in young, emaciated bodies. The boys need to be fully alert for every step of the way with no foot slips or head bumps caused by foggy minds. The calming meds should be reserved for the stressed watchers on the outside.
Out of necessity I think they WILL definitely give the boys
something to keep them calm. Panic can and will kill them and
endanger their accompanying divers.
This is one reason they have the Australian ER doctor who is
also an anesthesiologist at the site where the boys are.
MOO.
 
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I wonder if Canada has offered any help?! Has anyone read anything? So many nations coming together once again. AmaZing what can happen when there is one common goal.
Haven't seen Canada mentioned.
 
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I do SO hope that everyone takes the family's lead on the coach. If THEY don't hold him responsible and THEY feel he is a hero, that should be enough.

It is their children who's lives have been hanging in the balance. If they don't blame him, neither should the legal system. I think he's been punished enough.

This is one of those natural consequences.... just like the next person who decides to go in this cave during monsoon season will be natural selection.
 
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Does anyone know if they are still pumping out water ??
Seems as though with the recent downpours they will lose much
of the gain they had achieved if they aren't pumping.
 
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Does anyone know if they are still pumping out water ??
Seems as though with the recent downpours they will lose much
of the gain they had achieved if they aren't pumping.
YES
 
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"34m ago05:18

Jacob Goldberg, who is reporting for the Guardian, has interviewed Dr. Andrea Danese, a child psychiatrist at King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience, who has discussed the possible psychological consequences of the ordeal on the boys.

After a long time spent underground, the boys will be tired possibly mildly confused - almost as if they were jet-lagged - and likely quite emotional. Bringing them together with a parent will certainly be a positive experience. The mental health professionals could advise the parents on how to support their children int he aftermath of this scary experience.

The parents can help their children in many ways. They can comfort them emotionally by finding the right words to communicate that the threat is over, saying that is OK to feel strong emotions in the aftermath of scary experiences, suggesting ways of coping with those emotions, and importantly to bring back normality by using routines familiar to the boys.

Overall, this is clearly an unusual situation but we can think about the mental health of these boys based on work in traumatised young people more broadly. Many of the boys will have some emotional symptoms - they may be tearful, easily upset, and clingy. These symptoms will resolve within weeks in most of the boys.

A sizeable minority of the boys will develop psychiatric disorders, says Danese, who recommends the boys are carefully assessed and monitored for some time after they are freed.

A sizeable minority of them will develop psychiatric disorders, such as depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), or possible conduct problems and substance abuse. Therefore, the boys should be carefully assessed and monitored after being reunited with their families.

The assessment needs to be broad, considering all types of psychopathology rather than only focus on PTSD, should include a careful assessment of their risk for self-harm, and identify changes in functioning since the incident. Some children may have had pre-exising vulnerability to psychopathology, which should be considered in the assessment.

It is important that the boys who develop psychopathology receive evidence-based treatments personalised to their clinical presentation rather than general counselling advice related to copying with distress or interventions with poor evidence base.

Updated at 5.22am ED"

Thai cave rescue: boys being rescued in four groups – live
 
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From what I heard on BBC radio earlier this morning it is going to take hours and I got the impression we could be waiting all day for news. Heavy rain falling as of the report about an hour ago
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