Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #4

[CARIIS]

Is there an live feed from anyone but American media - it is Monday and on Mondays (SC Today) it takes a full day to keep up with all the nonsense that occurred from Fridays night to Mondays mornings

It is all getting so stale I would rather listen to this anyone ? trying SKy but they are back to their brexit problems

is there a nation that is not crumbling in on itself-- and if so are they covering this live in english and be really live !!!

there is a challenge for us!!

 

[Elainera]

I've been trying to work out a scene in my mind of the boys in the cave hearing the sounds in the water...

Listen! I can hear something.
Another rooster crowing?
No, it's in the water!
Ohh, a swimming rooster!
No, really!
I hear something too, turn the torch on!
Yes! There is something in the water!
Oh shut up. It's probably just another rat.
No it's round, like a football?
I think it's a man's head?
And then:
Man's head pops out of the water and says "Hello!" in a foreign language!

I like that

I loved the British diver (don't remember who of the two) answering "Brilliant!" when the boy told him there were 13 of them. It was such a miracle that they found them! I still can't get over that.

 

[kkdj]

I like that

I loved the British diver (don't remember who of the two) answering "Brilliant!" when the boy told him there were 13 of them. It was such a miracle that they found them! I still can't get over that.

Same here! And you know what? Someone was brilliant keeping all those boys alive and well!

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Isn’t there a milder medicine than Versed (spelling?) to give the boys? For example, in an adult, there are several meds to give for anxiety or panic attacks.

I feel certain the doctor has several options at his disposal should a boy panic and not be able to put the mask on or go under water. JMO.

A tiny amount of a beta-blocker or a benzodiazepine that doesn't have side effects of nausea and vomiting may have been given to those the doctor thought would panic. The boys had to walk on slippery surfaces for over a mile (see the photos) during much of their rescue, so they had to be alert. If they had fallen and twisted an ankle or received a head injury because they were dopey, this would have severely slowed their rescue.

 

[CARIIS]

oh wow

the hardest part is a 15 inch yes 15 inch space that they have to pass through

at that point they put the kid ahead of the two adults the child must go through ahead of them and then climb up a big rock and sit and wait for the adults to do the same thing and climb up

the they have a large schelp on dry on rock then they hit water and have to get all outfitted again rinse and repeat

no pun intended

the movie is having their rap party next week !! Opens nationwide on July 15!!

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

I like that

I loved the British diver (don't remember who of the two) answering "Brilliant!" when the boy told him there were 13 of them. It was such a miracle that they found them! I still can't get over that.

British people say that a lot similar to how Americans say "awesome".

But it was brilliant. The coach kept them all together and they were all alive because they had remained together.

 

[Elainera]

Same here! And you know what? Someone was brilliant keeping all those boys alive and well!

Absolutely. I can't wait for him to get out, get well, and give an interview explaining how he did that. It might be very helpful for others in any similar future disasters. Like I said before, it's almost as if they are teaching the world something (not intentionally of course but just by being themselves).

 

[kkdj]

Absolutely. I can't wait for him to get out, get well, and give an interview explaining how he did that. It might be very helpful for others in any similar future disasters. Like I said before, it's almost as if they are teaching the world something (not intentionally of course but just by being themselves).

Yes! They are teaching the world humanity, what's at our core, loving one another, working together with the same goal!

 

[Gardenista]

Much of the video I posted above with the rescuer, Ivan Karadzic, is transcribed here

4 More Boys Rescued from Thailand Cave as Second Day of Rescue Operation Comes to Close

 

[Gardenista]

Verified account 22m22 minutes ago
Senior health officials to give a media briefing at Chiang Rai hospital before midnight tonight presumably to discuss the health of eight young footballers now freed from flooded #thamluangcave

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I've been trying to work out a scene in my mind of the boys in the cave hearing the sounds in the water...

Listen! I can hear something.
Another rooster crowing?
No, it's in the water!
Ohh, a swimming rooster!
No, really!
I hear something too, turn the torch on!
Yes! There is something in the water!
Oh shut up. It's probably just another rat.
No it's round, like a football?
I think it's a man's head?
And then:
Man's head pops out of the water and says "Hello!" in a foreign language!

Or, the not-so-happy version:

Listen! I can hear something.
Another rooster crowing?
No, it's in the water!
Ohh, a swimming rooster!
No, really!
I hear something too, turn the torch on!
Yes! There is something in the water!
Oh shut up. It's probably just another rat.
No it's round, like a football?
A football? KICK IT!

 

[kkdj]

Why are the boys barefoot?

 

[CARIIS]

sorry if posted

 

[Lamima]

Why are the boys barefoot?

They left their shoes a ways back in the cave. They were found by searchers along with backpacks.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Why are the boys barefoot?

They had taken their football boots off and left them (along with their backpacks and bikes) nearer the entrance. Who knows why! Actually, I wonder if that means they didn't have food or torches with them either, probably not much at all given football shorts don't have pockets.

 

[keeleydoll]

So the coach is not from Thailand himself?

I could be wrong, I’m looking for it now. They’re right near the border so I think ethnically they’re basically the same people.

Here’s one article about his past Tragic past of Thai coach Ekapol Chanthawong who led boys into cave

 

[JDG]

A tiny amount of a beta-blocker or a benzodiazepine that doesn't have side effects of nausea and vomiting may have been given to those the doctor thought would panic. The boys had to walk on slippery surfaces for over a mile (see the photos) during much of their rescue, so they had to be alert. If they had fallen and twisted an ankle or received a head injury because they were dopey, this would have severely slowed their rescue.

Granny, my understanding is that they were all wrapped up in 'blankets' of some sort to keep them warm and bundled, they had helmets so that they couldn't hit their heads on rocks and they each had two divers to help them through the whole thing. One of the divers who hugged them when they left the cave, said he couldn't really see them with the face masks on due to the 'wrappings on them' or something similar. Whatever they had, they were very well cared for by this wonderful group of rescuers.
I think that was on CNN but don't quote me....lol So much and so overwhelming!
Also, so very happy for them!!

 

[kkdj]

They had taken their football boots off and left them (along with their backpacks and bikes) nearer the entrance. Who knows why! Actually, I wonder if that means they didn't have food or torches with them either, probably not much at all given football shorts don't have pockets.

I have wondered if they dropped items along their long path to find their way out or to guide searchers. When I used to hike in the mountains I did this.

 

[Amonet]

I could be wrong, I’m looking for it now. They’re right near the border so I think ethnically they’re basically the same people.

Here’s one article about his past Tragic past of Thai coach Ekapol Chanthawong who led boys into cave

I thought I read there were several different ethnicities all in the same area. One of the boys is also from Myanmar according to earlier articles.

The other side of that mountain is Myanmar, from what I understand, and I read there's a lot of travel over the sides of the border.

 

[musicaljoke]

jut mo

i really dont think anyone can be given anything they have no idea about individual reactions allergies dosing with dehydration and body mass loss disorientation just to sensations related to being suspended in water, in total darkness shifting currents the cold dizziness fear language differences learning and focus feeling sensations ( like a wall or something) nausea weakening of already apartheid muscles being kids tolerances no medical history potential for muscle cramping hyperthermia etc etc

Indeed! Medicating for anxiety is a "western" concept which is probably offensive to the Thai culture. Buddists are steeped in "eastern" methods for calming the heart that don't come with such medical risks.

"Mr Ekkapol, 25, is assistant coach to the Moo Pa (Wild Boars) Academy Mae Sai soccer team.Weak from malnutrition after denying himself food, the former monk novice has kept the trapped boys calm in their subterranean prison by teaching them meditation."

How Thai coach kept cave boys alive