Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #4

[Elley Mae]

Officials haven’t allowed the boys’ parents and other relatives to visit them because of a fear of infection. Mr. Narongsak said authorities are now considering allowing visits, although the parents may have to be walled off by a glass or transparent screen.

Divers Rescue Four More Boys From Thai Cave, Bringing Total to Eight

 

[Amonet]

I have wondered if they dropped items along their long path to find their way out or to guide searchers. When I used to hike in the mountains I did this.

To be honest I don't wholly buy this 'initiation' thing, I wonder if that's a bad translation into English? I can see it being a test of their bravery and stamina, but I'm suspicious of that 'initiation' word, it doesn't feel quite right? Unless the younger ones were being 'initiated' into the group that would sometimes go into the caves as a 'test'?

It has been mentioned that they wrote their names on a wall in the caves...that could have been for fun, or could it have been because the exit had been cut off and they did it either so rescuers would know which way they'd gone, or for a more symbolic reason related to being stuck down there?

 

[AliceInPain]

I have wondered if they dropped items along their long path to find their way out or to guide searchers. When I used to hike in the mountains I did this.

I was reading the earliest articles the other day and the impression I got was thet they left their bikes and shoes when getting into the cave, and then later dropping their bags when they had to go further in due to sudden water.

 

[CARIIS]

I have wondered if they dropped items along their long path to find their way out or to guide searchers. When I used to hike in the mountains I did this.

what was the rainfall the actual day they went in??

 

[CARIIS]

To be honest I don't wholly buy this 'initiation' thing, I wonder if that's a bad translation into English? I can see it being a test of their bravery and stamina, but I'm suspicious of that 'initiation' word, it doesn't feel quite right? Unless the younger ones were being 'initiated' into the group that would sometimes go into the caves as a 'test'?

It has been mentioned that they wrote their names on a wall in the caves...that could have been for fun, or could it have been because the exit had been cut off and they did it either so rescuers would know which way they'd gone, or for a more symbolic reason related to being stuck down there?

or they could have just been being boys competing etc

they were not experimenting with heroin there were being kids that got TRAPPED by forces they had nothing to do with

they coach should be heralded not pondered for criminal charges and being imprisoned in a place that has lights food and water

there kids they would not have known what to do if they had not had wise counsel throughout half a month moo

 

[kkdj]

To be honest I don't wholly buy this 'initiation' thing, I wonder if that's a bad translation into English? I can see it being a test of their bravery and stamina, but I'm suspicious of that 'initiation' word, it doesn't feel quite right? Unless the younger ones were being 'initiated' into the group that would sometimes go into the caves as a 'test'?

It has been mentioned that they wrote their names on a wall in the caves...that could have been for fun, or could it have been because the exit had been cut off and they did it either so rescuers would know which way they'd gone, or for a more symbolic reason related to being stuck down there?

I read they had gone in the cave several times before as part of exercising.

 

[FlossyMay]

Have they been reporting that the coach may face charges?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Have they been reporting that the coach may face charges?

Not really, and I think there'll be international uproar if he is!

 

[whitelilac]

I've been away from my computer, so imagine my fear when the first headline I saw this morning was "rescue suspended" with 5 more still in the cave. wth? On reading other accounts, just means suspended for today after the rescue of 4 more boys. yay!
omg, so relieved.
I'm beyond impressed by this mammoth unprecedented rescue....I read that one diver said it's akin to climbing Mt Everest.

 

[AliceInPain]

The rumours about the initiation thing, and that the boys can't swim, come from Ben Reymenants, the diver who was banned for giving false information or whatever it was.

The initial articles said the boys used to go "swimming in waterfalls."
A friend of them was not worried, because "they can swim," and a mother only yesterday said one of her son's hobbies was to swim.

So... just because someone is interviewed by the BBC, doesn't make it verified.

 

[AliceInPain]

I've been at work all day and on my way home my local newspaper headline was "The weakest boys were left behind in Thai cave!"
I got seriously nervous and thought I'd just go on here and read from where I last took off.
If anything bad did happen or happens, I'll be with these people.
I'm so grateful you are here!

 

[SeesSeas]

Ivan Karadzic, a Danish diver who took part in Sunday’s rescue mission to free the trapped youth soccer team, talks with TODAY’s Savannah Guthrie and Hoda Kotb. “They were incredibly strong,” he said of the boys, adding that a main focus is to keep them calm and avoid panic.

Video at the link

Diver who helped Thailand rescue says the main focus is to keep boys from panicking

This drawing shows one diver cradling one boy while 2nd diver is behind them. I recall reading somewhere that the rescue diver would always be holding the boy through the journey in the water sections. Wow - lots of effort that they've given such comfort to reduce potential panic.
Nice interview:
Diver who helped Thailand rescue says the main focus is to keep boys from panicking

 

[JanetElaine]

This drawing shows one diver cradling one boy while 2nd diver is behind them. I recall reading somewhere that the rescue diver would always be holding the boy through the journey in the water sections. Wow - lots of effort that they've given such comfort to reduce potential panic.
Nice interview:
Diver who helped Thailand rescue says the main focus is to keep boys from panicking

The bravery, kindness, and selflessness of these rescuers, these divers, brings tears to my eyes every time. I just don't know how one would ever pay them back for this.

 

[BUF]

Did this ever happen?

amanda hodge
@hodgeamanda
Senior health officials to give a media briefing at Chiang Rai hospital before midnight tonight presumably to discuss the health of eight young footballers now freed from flooded #thamluangcave

 

[zencompass]

Have they been reporting that the coach may face charges?

Hi FlossyMay,

There have been a few rumblings but none from anyone official - just the usual negative gossipy stuff to try to get people upset.

I just came across this wonderful article concerning how immensely proud the people there are of the coach!!

Thai cave rescue: Trapped coach's community chooses love over blame - Macleans.ca

 

[kkdj]

Not really, and I think there'll be international uproar if he is!

Yes! International uproar! He deserves a medal imo!

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Did this ever happen?

amanda hodge
@hodgeamanda
Senior health officials to give a media briefing at Chiang Rai hospital before midnight tonight presumably to discuss the health of eight young footballers now freed from flooded #thamluangcave

Yes, it's 1am there now. We've not yet had a transcript of what was said, other than confirmation that another 4 are out and all are well. They haven't been able to eat their favourite food yet, just mushed up porridge.

 

[zencompass]

From article:

"At the mouth of the cave, volunteers have spent days picked up garbage, translating press releases, and sorting rubber boots and ponchos. They have all been trying to save the children, but they haven’t forgotten the adult with them. They say that none of them has made the sacrifices the coach has: They might have cooked some food for the rescuers, but he stopped eating so the kids could live."

"Human error to the right of them, human error to the left of them. But nowhere is there hate, or even anything to forgive."





Thai cave rescue: Trapped coach's community chooses love over blame - Macleans.ca

 

[Jax49]

They say that none of them has made the sacrifices the coach has: They might have cooked some food for the rescuers, but he stopped eating so the kids could live.

OK. That did it. I'm officially bawling my eyes out (again).

I love these people!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

It is so wonderful to hear how smoothly this rescue is going. The only part that bothers me is the apparent distrust of the Thai government people. Those media reporters over there are only trying to verify what the public has been told, yet they are being demonized.

Not even one photo of any of the rescued has been released. The parents have not seen their children as of yet. That is very, very odd, in my opinion. The reasons being given for isolating the boys and keeping them from their own parents - potential risk of histoplasmosis, etc. - is such a statistically small risk that it just does not make sense.

I would think that due to the repressive Thai government, the parents are afraid to speak out in protest of being unable to visit with their own rescued children, That is such a shame and I hope that journalists from freer countries will speak out about this issue.

Not that I really think it, but honestly, how do we actually know these boys were safely rescued and are doing well in hospital?