Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #4

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They say that none of them has made the sacrifices the coach has: They might have cooked some food for the rescuers, but he stopped eating so the kids could live.

OK. That did it. I'm officially bawling my eyes out (again).

I love these people!

Dear Jax,

So do I !!

Namaste,
 
  • #943
Yes, it's 1am there now. We've not yet had a transcript of what was said, other than confirmation that another 4 are out and all are well. They haven't been able to eat their favourite food yet, just mushed up porridge.
Thanks, but I got the impression that it was a briefing from the medical staff on the boys. I thought this tweet came out after the earlier presser. Maybe I'm wrong...
 
  • #944
Not that I really think it, but honestly, how do we actually know these boys were safely rescued and are doing well in hospital?

There are enough international people involved that a cover up would be, er, uncovered.
 
  • #945
Thanks, but I got the impression that it was a briefing from the medical staff on the boys. I thought this tweet came out after the earlier presser. Maybe I'm wrong...

Ah ok, a medical update would be good but they're probably all asleep now.
 
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The bravery, kindness, and selflessness of these rescuers, these divers, brings tears to my eyes every time. I just don't know how one would ever pay them back for this.

I wonder if the two main British divers who found the boys could get a Knighthood for this? Any English members here able to weigh in on if that's likely or possible? I don't know the requirements of Knighthood, but it just crossed my mind they could be honored that way.
 
  • #948
Bangkok now Tuesday, 1:45AM
BST: Tomorrow +6 hours
PST: Tomorrow +14 hours
 
  • #949
Cave rescue paused as eighth boy saved
Is there an live feed from anyone but American media - it is Monday and on Mondays (SC Today) it takes a full day to keep up with all the nonsense that occurred from Fridays night to Mondays mornings

It is all getting so stale I would rather listen to this anyone ? trying SKy but they are back to their brexit problems

is there a nation that is not crumbling in on itself-- and if so are they covering this live in english and be really live !!!

there is a challenge for us!!

It is well past midnight at the cave site now so there is likely nothing for another 6 hours at least. It would be good if posters say which one they have found best. I prefer to follow the BBC link below - not a live feed but live commenting with frequent recaps.
Cave rescue paused as eighth boy saved
 
  • #950
If they are not being fed, maybe they're not as well as we're being told?
You would think food would be given pretty quickly if they are healthy.....and conscious. They might start with frequent, small portions but they would feed them.
 
  • #951
They had taken their football boots off and left them (along with their backpacks and bikes) nearer the entrance. Who knows why! Actually, I wonder if that means they didn't have food or torches with them either, probably not much at all given football shorts don't have pockets.


I think most probably had a flashlight, but how good they were or how long they lasted I can't say. I suspect the coach made sure they rationed their use as much as they could. And being barefoot probsbly gave them better grip for climbing on slippery rocks...?

Interrsting to go back and read how they planned for the trip and what they did to hold out so long.

Before their rescue:
‘Where Have You Guys Been?’: Thai Cave Challenge Quickly Became a Trap
The drama started two weeks ago, when Ekkapol Chantawong, assistant coach for the Wild Boars soccer club, decided to take some players on a trip after a Saturday practice match.

“Ok everyone, drink a glass of water and please go to bed. Bicycle gang, see you at the school at 8:20,” he wrote in a group chat on Facebook Messenger on Friday, June 22, which was viewed by the Journal. “Don’t forget to have breakfast and pack lunch everyone.”

The next morning at 6:36, Mr. Ekkapol sent another message: “All, don’t forget to bring your flashlight.”

“I have one but it’s very lame, bro. Hahaha,” one boy replied
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After soccer practice, Coach Ek made sure his players had water before drinking some himself, people who know the club say. He often took the team on excursions.

[June 23]
The Wild Boars divided into two groups for a practice match, then got ready to cycle to the caves.

Many had already been there several times, an experience some found daunting.
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Dom, the captain, is afraid of the dark, says his 13-year-old girlfriend, Nutchanan Ramkeaw, who says he once refused to go out to get something to eat because it was nighttime. He sees the cave trips as a challenge that he can brave in a group, she says.

Another boy, 13-year-old Songpon Kanthawong, known as Pangpond, had been too scared to venture further than the cave’s mouth in previous trips but was determined to join this time. [his mother forbade hus going, so he was not there]


[Entered cave @ 2 pm, @ 3 pm there was a suddend 1/2 hour rainfall, steady rain from 7 pm on; by 8 om parents were contscting the head coach; parents & cosch went to the cave @ 9 pm and saw all the bikes outside and alerted officials. Intense rain continued for several more days. ]

The boys brought some snacks and a little water, and each had a flashlight, Thai authorities say. They ate and drank sparingly; local press report Mr. Ekkapol stinted himself so his charges could have more. He told the boys not to use their flashlights at the same time, to conserve batteries.

When they ran out of water, Mr. Ekkapol warned the boys not to drink the muddy floodwaters and to sip water dripping from the cave instead, according to Thai authorities. He told the boys not to move around much to conserve energy, and taught them meditation techniques to stay calm.

On Day 10, as the 13 were sitting in darkness, two British cave divers who were surveying a passage inside the cave system stuck their heads out of the water and saw the group in front of them.

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Leading up to the rescue:
Divers Search Flooded Cave In Thailand For 12 Missing Boys And Their Soccer Coach

At the mouth of Tham Luang Nang Non cave, located in a verdant forest reserve that borders Myanmar, park officials found every indication that the boys and coach entered the cave but never came out: a motorcycle, 11 bicycles, backpacks, soccer shoes and sports equipment, The Bangkok Post reported.

Rescuers found footprints and handprints inside the cave, fueling hopes that the boys are still alive, Narin said, according to the AP. He added that their athleticism could help them survive the ordeal.

Sand, mud and flooding prevented the divers from accessing the passage to the chamber, a park official said.

Authorities have also asked nervous villagers to stop burning incense at the entrance of the cave out of concern that it could deplete oxygen inside, The New York Times reported.

In the past, tourists have been rescued from flooded caves after the waters receded days later, officials told media outlets.
 
  • #952
If they are not being fed, maybe they're not as well as we're being told?
You would think food would be given pretty quickly if they are healthy.....and conscious. They might start with frequent, small portions but they would feed them.
I'm sure I read that they were given some sort of porridge. Easy on the tummy.
 
  • #953
If they are not being fed, maybe they're not as well as we're being told?
You would think food would be given pretty quickly if they are healthy.....and conscious. They might start with frequent, small portions but they would feed them.

Who said they're not being fed?
 
  • #954
They'll be in hospital beds, probably on an IV drip to rehydrate them and give antibiotics. Chest infections would be fairly likely I''d think, and possibly tummy upsets from a lack of hygiene. Once their vitals are back up and they can rule out contagious infection they'll be reunited with family. Actually, I think they probably have been already, privately.
 
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I'm sure I read that they were given some sort of porridge. Easy on the tummy.

I read this somewhere as well. I'll look for the link.
 
  • #956
I think they are on IV's and mild tummied food. I don't think they could be introduced to too much too fast.
 
  • #957
Yes! International uproar! He deserves a medal imo!

A few days back there was a quote attributed to someone in the Thai government, I think something like the junior justice minister? That quote said something like "if anyone runs into Coach Ek around town, please give him a big hug from me"

I really hope that is indicative of what the whole justice department is feeling and that they won't give him major charges.
 
  • #958
I have wondered if they dropped items along their long path to find their way out or to guide searchers. When I used to hike in the mountains I did this.

If they did we haven't heard about it - or they were not found.

Have they been reporting that the coach may face charges?

Only thing I remember was one article saying that authorities are looking into whether he could be charged. Never saw a follow up. (Thank God)

Did this ever happen?

amanda hodge
@hodgeamanda

Senior health officials to give a media briefing at Chiang Rai hospital before midnight tonight presumably to discuss the health of eight young footballers now freed from flooded #thamluangcave

If someone finds an English transcript of this please post!
 
  • #959
I wonder if the two main British divers who found the boys could get a Knighthood for this? Any English members here able to weigh in on if that's likely or possible? I don't know the requirements of Knighthood, but it just crossed my mind they could be honored that way.

I think it's possible if all are saved. Others from the Commonwealth could receive honours too. Thailand may also issue some.
 
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I'm sure I read that they were given some sort of porridge. Easy on the tummy.

But they have been eating since last Monday, otherwise how would they have gained strength? I don't understand why there's now doubts that they are not being fed, or not enough?
 
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