The Duggar Family: 18 Kids & Counting

  • #301
wow, you guys are harsh and some are just plain ole meanies! Who cares how many children they have as long as they are taking care of them.
You guys shouldn't make fun of their beliefs and their physical appearance. That's just wrong.
 
  • #302
wow, you guys are harsh and some are just plain ole meanies! Who cares how many children they have as long as they are taking care of them.
You guys shouldn't make fun of their beliefs and their physical appearance. That's just wrong.

I assure you that this thread is gentle compared to the twop forums. Trust.
 
  • #303
wow, you guys are harsh and some are just plain ole meanies! Who cares how many children they have as long as they are taking care of them.
You guys shouldn't make fun of their beliefs and their physical appearance. That's just wrong.

I'm not sure that they are taking care of their children's needs.

As I've said before, in the past, not all children survived to adulthood, so even if a mother did give birth to a large family,. as many as half or less actually lived to adulthood.

The father would have been at home providing an ag-based lifestyle/economy to his children. As he grew older, he would still have been present to teach the younger children his job skills and values even though the older children would take on some of the child-care/raising duties. As well, the older children would have been leaving the home after 16 or so years.

They are not living as people did in the past, period, so they get judged by today's standards,and I am less than impressed by how they choose to enable their children's futures.
 
  • #304
:laugh:
Eventually this woman will stop ovulating or die in childbirth.

bawaaaaa That cracked me up. :clap:

If these 2 aren't finished making babies I question their motive for having more children. Are they trying to get into The Guiness Book? I mean come onnnnnn. I had 2 children and felt like I couldn't give them the attention they sometimes needed due to my work schedule, church, etc. 17 and counting.....

I have questions:
Who pays for their food?
Do they live on donations?.....cause one man's salary is not enough to feed 19 people anything but bubblegum.
Who paid for that hotel they built that they call home?
 
  • #305
  • #306
:laugh:

bawaaaaa That cracked me up. :clap:

If these 2 aren't finished making babies I question their motive for having more children. Are they trying to get into The Guiness Book? I mean come onnnnnn. I had 2 children and felt like I couldn't give them the attention they sometimes needed due to my work schedule, church, etc. 17 and counting.....

I have questions:
Who pays for their food?
Do they live on donations?.....cause one man's salary is not enough to feed 19 people anything but bubblegum.
Who paid for that hotel they built that they call home?

They do not believe in birth control so if God gives them more, there will be more - however many that is. Their religion does not allow them to "decide" how many kids they will have - they keep having them as long as they can physically.

They are totally self sustaining - own some real estate, sell some real estate, buy things at auctions and re-sell them at a profit, once they owned a used car lot - they live 100% debt free. They owe nothing - they built the house themselves with cash over a 3 year period, their grocery bill is about $2K a month. They buy most of their clothes used or make them themselves. No, they do not live on donations - although they did get some when they were decorating the new house. They do not accept welfare etc - most people with 2 kids don't live debt free, but they do - and they did it BEFORE the TV specials...they just are very good money managers, take pride in living debt free. Most of the stuff in their house was bought at auction used for pennies on the dollar including the commercial kitchen and laundry equipment.

As I and others said earlier - they are a "Quiverfull" family - Google it - it's a whole lifestyle - fundamentlist Christians with VERY large families - most over 6 kids and a some are like the Duggar's - approaching 20 children. They home-school and usually the kids marry other "Quiverfull" kids. They live at home until marriage and often the sons build their homes on the same property as the parents. The children have very limited exposure outside the home - no TV and internet only for school - usually when they have reached 18. They socialize only with other Quiverfull families - lots of camps, revivals, meetings and seminars annually. It's fascinating to read about.

And, just in case you think it's the husband MAKING the wife have all those kids, it's not. The women are very proud of their children, training (that's what they call parenting - training) their children, home schooling their children, running the household and having as many children as God allows/gives. This is not an Andrea Yates deal. It's an odd lifestyle but hardly crazy - very similar in many ways to LDS or Amish/Mennonite families.

My Opinion
 
  • #307
I also wanted to add that TLC basically furnished their house for them and I heard pays them thousands to appear on their show. My big question is this....WHAT DOES THE MOTHER DO? Besides give birth every 9 months? From what I see the children do all the work....
 
  • #308
I also wanted to add that TLC basically furnished their house for them and I heard pays them thousands to appear on their show. My big question is this....WHAT DOES THE MOTHER DO? Besides give birth every 9 months? From what I see the children do all the work....

My question also sadie.:D You said it in a much nicer way than I did though.:silenced:
 
  • #309
I assure you that this thread is gentle compared to the twop forums. Trust.
The twop forums would probably have a blast making fun of my neighbors, and my relatives as well. The Amish and the Mennonites, who live very similarly, where it is not unusual at all to have families of that size. Not only that, they dress really funny too.. and wear their hair funny. The moms just pop kids out, and sit on the sofa all day eating bonbons, while the kids do all the work. Shame on that lazy mother who should be out working for a living. /sarcasm off.
 
  • #310
They don't look corny at all to me, but then I was raised around families like that. I don't "get" the hostility towards this family. I have watched the show.


I don't get it either PSUfan. I think it may be because we are all a little uncomfortable with anything different than we are, for whatever reason. Personally I think that this family is great. I wouldn't want to live like they do but if they are happy and healthy and not on public assistance then there should be no ill will toward them and their choices. I don't care for what appears to be male dominence in their social group but I know that not everyone has to think or behave the same way I do for them to be just as valuable to society.

The Duggars do live in the "real world". They are members of society, productive members at that. Most of modern society has evolved into a state of believing that children should not have to work in the household, and that they should have their parents undivided attention. That's probably why there are so many spoiled brats in this world that you can't stand to be around in public! I swear I'd rather stand next to a family of 16 well behaved respectful children in the checkout line than just one whining spoiled brat who isn't getting his/her way anyday! Everytime I go shopping it's a race to get out of a store to get away from the screaming kids. So if there is room for criticism about how people are raising their kids we should probably turn around and take a good look at all of us "normal" families.
 
  • #311
The Duggars do live in the "real world". They are members of society, productive members at that. Most of modern society has evolved into a state of believing that children should not have to work in the household, and that they should have their parents undivided attention. That's probably why there are so many spoiled brats in this world that you can't stand to be around in public! I swear I'd rather stand next to a family of 16 well behaved respectful children in the checkout line than just one whining spoiled brat who isn't getting his/her way anyday! Everytime I go shopping it's a race to get out of a store to get away from the screaming kids. So if there is room for criticism about how people are raising their kids we should probably turn around and take a good look at all of us "normal" families.

bravo!!:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
  • #312
Gee if it were not for TLC, I do wonder how they would furnish the house, get thousands upon tens of thousand of dollars, and ensure that the public knows all about how to raise Stepford kids. Gee the boys would be well served to "join" the military, they do have the back ground training for it.

Trust me there is more money in this for this family then anyone realizes. I do wonder how they attempt to support them all, well now I have a idea how.

Oh I forgot, having the kids "buddy" with a young one, dressing the kids all the same, appearing on TV for an income, getting their house furnished, free. Not sending the girls to college to be educated.

Wow, sound like a great deal for them. Now if they would only not use electricity, and use candles so they do not contribute to the global warming and green house gases,I am sure the girls won't be driving cars, so that is a plus.

At least with the other religious organizations they do not rely on the rest of the world to supply them with electricity and gas. Now they are truly "productive" and self sufficient members of society. A religion that is truly self sufficient.

Why can't these people use candles and grow their own food.

What happens when "one" of 17 kids wants to use the phone, do they have to make an appointment "days" in advance, is there a lottery to see who uses the phone that day, are they set for a time limit say 3 minutes each every other day or week. Or do they see the phone as "devils" work.

Do they have bedtime stories and tuck in at night, not by parents but by brothers and sisters. Do they do this in assembly line fashion. The parents cannot even keep the names and ages of the kids straight and some people seem to think that they all get the emotional attention that every child craves, that they are "unique" and valued. No they are just one of the numbers. What number child are you Jennifer: I am girl number 4.

What about you Josh: I am boy number 3.

Mom I want to talk to you about my future and what I may want to be when I grow up: Jennifer the only thing you are going to be when you grow up, your entire purpose on this planet is to have babies, as many as you can and then try to remember all of their names. The only purpose you have is to educate the children and be a homemaker.

But Mom, I am smart, I want to do more. Well too bad for you Jennifer, our religion has decided for you. Your entire life has been chosen for you as it is will all of the girls. Only the boys get educated.

Mom: I have a problem that I don't feel comfortable talking to my "buddy" about. Well Jennifer, make an appointment on the calender and I will see if I can fit you in a week from Tuesday, after all you have 16 other brothers and sister that need my attention also.

It is akin to one teacher teaching 3 kids in a class. There is a question or problem and she can ensure that one child has the appropriate attention.

Other then one teacher with a class of 17 kids and 6 kids have a question.

Who do you think will get the "better" explanation and attention in class, one in three, or 6 in seventeen.

Unless it is proven to me that these people do not contribute to global warming, greenhouse gas emissions, over population of the planet, then I see them as selfish and self centered.

Why don't they tell the other "flip" side of a family with 8 kids living in abject poverty, but unable to provide for all of the current kids, let alone the future ones.
 
  • #313
Gee if it were not for TLC, I do wonder how they would furnish the house, get thousands upon tens of thousand of dollars, and ensure that the public knows all about how to raise Stepford kids. Gee the boys would be well served to "join" the military, they do have the back ground training for it.

Trust me there is more money in this for this family then anyone realizes. I do wonder how they attempt to support them all, well now I have a idea how.
Maybe you know more about this family than I do? My mother was one of 16 children. My aunt had 16 as well, and adopted a 17th. They managed without welfare or public assistance, or TLC.

So maybe it is just this specific family that you take issue with? Should they be any different from the "Little People Big World" family? Should they not be compensated for the TLC show either? How about the Ozzie show.. should that family not be compensated? What about the shows about the spoiled rich girls and their 16th birthday parties? No compensation for them? This is capitalism, and it is a show that folks want to watch. Part of the capitalism does include sponsors... if the sponsors feel this is money well spent, then that is there choice to sponsor the show.

Oh, and there is no shame in joining the Military.

Oh I forgot, having the kids "buddy" with a young one, dressing the kids all the same, appearing on TV for an income, getting their house furnished, free. Not sending the girls to college to be educated.

Wow, sound like a great deal for them. Now if they would only not use electricity, and use candles so they do not contribute to the global warming and green house gases,I am sure the girls won't be driving cars, so that is a plus.
I would be willing to bet that our richie rich politicians and Hollywood stars, who scream the loudest about this, are also the ones who contribute most to this carbon footprint that you speak of.
At least with the other religious organizations they do not rely on the rest of the world to supply them with electricity and gas. Now they are truly "productive" and self sufficient members of society. A religion that is truly self sufficient.
huh? Provide links to where this religion in particular is relying on the rest of the world to supply them with electricity and gas? As opposed to the rest of us.. you and me.

Why can't these people use candles and grow their own food.
Why should they use candles? Do you use candles? Does Al Gore, or that other guy who is supposed to care about the little people? Oh and maybe they do have a garden.

What happens when "one" of 17 kids wants to use the phone, do they have to make an appointment "days" in advance, is there a lottery to see who uses the phone that day, are they set for a time limit say 3 minutes each every other day or week. Or do they see the phone as "devils" work.
What makes you think a child is entitled to the telephone? Hey.. maybe the family is trying to reduce that ole carbon imprint, and they are limiting telephone use? Same with the tv, and internet. hehe.. seriously, my mother grew up without a telephone, and I grew up without a tv (mostly), and we are no worse for the wear.


Do they have bedtime stories and tuck in at night, not by parents but by brothers and sisters. Do they do this in assembly line fashion. The parents cannot even keep the names and ages of the kids straight and some people seem to think that they all get the emotional attention that every child craves, that they are "unique" and valued. No they are just one of the numbers. What number child are you Jennifer: I am girl number 4.

What about you Josh: I am boy number 3.
You sound so angry. yikes! I know my mother got us girls mixed up all the time, and there were only 4 of us. I do the same with my kids... get names mixed up. Oh, I am the 3rd daughter. Daughter number 3. :)

At least these kids are not being raised by a babysitter, or daycare only to come home as latchkey children. I am sure they struggle with some things, but they seem to be managing just fine. Kids appear to be well adjusted.

Mom I want to talk to you about my future and what I may want to be when I grow up: Jennifer the only thing you are going to be when you grow up, your entire purpose on this planet is to have babies, as many as you can and then try to remember all of their names. The only purpose you have is to educate the children and be a homemaker.
Take a look at the website, and see the future goals these kids have. BTW, there is no shame in being a mother and a homemaker.
But Mom, I am smart, I want to do more. Well too bad for you Jennifer, our religion has decided for you. Your entire life has been chosen for you as it is will all of the girls. Only the boys get educated.
You are projecting things that you don't know to be true. I will need links to show that this religion does not allow girls to be educated past highschool. They will have to inform the daughters of this, because based on there goals, nurse, midwife.. they will need further education.

You seem so very angry at these parents, and very judgemental.
Why don't they tell the other "flip" side of a family with 8 kids living in abject poverty, but unable to provide for all of the current kids, let alone the future ones.
Maybe you should email TLC and ask them that? TLC is out to make money, and if they think it will sell, I am sure they would do it.
 
  • #314
The twop forums would probably have a blast making fun of my neighbors, and my relatives as well. The Amish and the Mennonites, who live very similarly, where it is not unusual at all to have families of that size. Not only that, they dress really funny too.. and wear their hair funny. The moms just pop kids out, and sit on the sofa all day eating bonbons, while the kids do all the work. Shame on that lazy mother who should be out working for a living. /sarcasm off.

You keep comparing your family to the Duggars. Did your family ever get out of the compound? School, work, church, dating, normal growing up activities like? Or was it all the family together all the time for all activities?
 
  • #315
You keep comparing your family to the Duggars. Did your family ever get out of the compound? School, work, church, dating, normal growing up activities like? Or was it all the family together all the time for all activities?
I wouldn't exactly call the ole homestead a "compound".. the Duggars home, or my parents (my father had 11 siblings, so that was a large family too).
My mothers family was Amish, and she only has a 7th grade education, as is the case with all of the Amish kids. Boys and girls. They socialized with the local Amish community. I do not know about the Duggars and socialization. It would be just guessing to assume that they have no youthgroup, or friends outside of what I see on tv. I only know for sure what I have seen on tv, and the little bit that I see on the website. I have seen them do some traveling on the show, which is more than my mothers family ever did when she was a child. I see that the Duggar kids incorporate field trips into there schooling.

My grandparents chose to leave the Amish faith when my mother was nearly 17 years old, so they expanded there socializing to include the Mennonites, I am sure. Plus, they were shunned when they left the Amish Church, but were warmly welcomed by the Mennonites. My mothers siblings did turn out to be productive members of society, business owners and succesful, and very many of their children (my cousins) are college educated, and professionals. Some of them stayed more conservative, and some did not.

I doubt that even one of them regrets their childhood. I know that my mother never felt neglected, or unloved.
 
  • #316
As my husband said, and I totally agree, they both should be spayed and neutered. They are nothing more than animals breeding. :doh: :bang:
 
  • #317
When I just told my hubby of number 17, he commented that this one must have just walked out by itself.

Unfortunately, my 12-yr old son heard him and asked what he meant by that. LOL---I love it when he gets put on the spot!

(BTW, hubby did tell him without passing it off to me, albeit with a little more of a colorful description than I would have. He said the kid probably walked out, with his own cigar in hand to celebrate his/her own birth. )
 
  • #318
My gramma had 16 homebirths. She is still alive and kicking at 93 years old. She would be quite surprised that her life has been reduced to being a "breedmare".

God Bless your Grammy. That is amazing to me. Might she be of German stock because both my Grammy's are and they are still running around. However when my mom saw that on the news about child number 17 she said "Now in our day ya had an excuse because there was no pill". She's a tad sensitive in these matters because my siblings are not a year apart. When she told my dad she was pregnant again he said "Well, that's impossible. That can't be. I won't stand for it. How could that happen?" LOLHe swore my brother was a tumor up until the ninth month. Wishful thinking. All's good. He's well loved even though he had a very large head. Got four of his own very large headed boys himself.
 
  • #319
After this thread sprang back to life after yet another announced addition to the family I thought, hmm, maybe it's going to become a reality show.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall and see just how these children are being taught an education that would qualify them for anything in life other than how to pro-create, prepare a meal, and do housework.

I wonder how up to date the books are from which they are supposedly learning the academics? Who is maintaining all those acres they live on? How are they learning about current events? Do the children ever socialize with anyone other than the immediate family?

Something is all so 'hinky' to me about this family since the day they found it necessary to have their private life put in the public eye. What was the point/need, to do so...........anyone know?
 
  • #320
Seems to me some of the folks on this thread are being overly judgmental of these people. If you don't like them or agree with their lifestyle don't watch the show. There is no reason to get yourself all worked up. Sure there are a lot of children in this family but I agree with Jack at least they are all well mannered. Wasn't the dad a state representative for a while? Personally I think it's great that they are a large family. It's not for me but who am I to judge them. It's not like they are hording guns and prepping for a war. Give them a break.
 

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