Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #4

[lil momma]

I think the important thing about the texting is how does Misty keep that cellphone paid up and why does it have a NC number.

I know nothing about Misty and her bills, but i can take a guess that the phone with a NC number was given to her by Donna Brock? (isn't that where she is from? could be way off)

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I know nothing about Misty and her bills, but i can take a guess that the phone with a NC number was given to her by Donna Brock? (isn't that where she is from? could be way off)

When she was stopped in the road rage incident she was driving a car with NC plates.

 

[believe09]

Where is Haleigh now....what has everyone missed....is she in a landfill, down a well.

If Haleigh died during a party where she ingested drugs, where would stoned petrified young adults have hidden her given the time line?

What if Misty medicated the two kids so she could sneak out and found Haleigh dead when she came back: there would have been a trace of something in her (Haleigh's) urine maybe...gonna search the threads to see if DNA established the urine on the sheets was Haleigh's...

 

[lil momma]

When she was stopped in the road rage incident she was driving a car with NC plates.

I think so, i would have to go back to that 911 call, and confirm, BRB

Blue Dodge Caliber North Carolina Plates....Although according to the article DB is from Georgia. (from Media links in the Stickies- post # 830 by Angelwhocares)

http://bit.ly/9AqFi

I can't post the article as it is no longer available, but the victim says it in the 911 call.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I was going from recollection Busy. I am most likely wrong. I remember a "7" in the conversation, that's all.

"I just seen '7'..." lol :crazy:

arrot:

 

[kiki the parrot]

I agree that bias causes us to see things very differently. And that whenever you avoid looking in any one direction you miss a big part of the picture too.

arrot:

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I was just going back through some of the original coverage on News4Jax.com. GGS, in giving a tour of the home, points out the master bath to the reporter and says "this is where Misty was when she noticed Haleigh was gone". Unless I've missed it already discussed, this is a new scenario for me. I'd heard:

1. MC got up to get a drink and when she got in the kitchen and saw the back door open, she went back to the bedroom to call RC

2. MC got up to go to the bathroom, but went to the other bathroom and noticed Haleigh gone when she came back

3. MC got up to use the bathroom, but never got that far as she found the kitchen light on and back door open

4. MC woke up because the kitchen light woke her and she noticed Haleigh gone upon returning to the bedroom

Now, why would GGS claim MC was in the master bath and noticed Haleigh gone? As far as I remember, MC never claimed that. It may not have any importance, just something I noticed. One things for sure, GGS is getting higher and higher on my hinky meter.

 

[Emeralgem]

I was just going back through some of the original coverage on News4Jax.com. GGS, in giving a tour of the home, points out the master bath to the reporter and says "this is where Misty was when she noticed Haleigh was gone". Unless I've missed it already discussed, this is a new scenario for me. I'd heard:
1. MC got up to get a drink and when she got in the kitchen and saw the back door open, she went back to the bedroom to call RC

2. MC got up to go to the bathroom, but went to the other bathroom and noticed Haleigh gone when she came back

3. MC got up to use the bathroom, but never got that far as she found the kitchen light on and back door open

4. MC woke up because the kitchen light woke her and she noticed Haleigh gone upon returning to the bedroom

Now, why would GGS claim MC was in the master bath and noticed Haleigh gone? As far as I remember, MC never claimed that. It may not have any importance, just something I noticed. One things for sure, GGS is getting higher and higher on my hinky meter.

Do you have a link, I would like to view that one...TYIA

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Do you have a link, I would like to view that one...TYIA

I KNEW I should've put it on. I was cruisin around the News4Jax site, I'll go look . . .

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Here's a link to some still photos, one has the caption of what I spoke about -- I'm still looking for the video

http://www.news4jax.com/slideshow/news/18873591/detail.html

 

[LFlorida]

You are absolutely right Busy. But didn't AH get his info from TM? Who got his information from Donna? All of this is so confusing. I thought I read somewhere that Donna told TM that Ron sent Misty a text message about what was going on. IDK

I was under the impression that Art gets his information [and his point-of-view] from that blondie attorney.

I wonder who else does. Hmmm.....

 

[LFlorida]

Thanks lil for finding and posting that article. What I don't get is why would he print this article and then hours later say on national tv that Misty learned about Donna while watching NG vs what he wrote in the article.

No wonder we go in circles.

lol - cuz he wuz Strokin'

[Any of y'all remember that tune?]

Stroking her ego. [Mz NayAnnSee's, I mean.]

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Emeralgem - still looking for the link to the video, don't know why I can't find it now (except that I am wanting to find it LOL)

Reading around through different transcripts and such - It's really sticking out to me that in referring to the "kidnapper" MC and RC always say "they", "them" and "he". I think this is a very good clue that they know what happened because I doubt anyone would assume a kidnapper is male or that there's more than one person involved. Just another something I noticed on my travels . . .

 

[debs]

Yellow, says in the caption on the third photo in that link that Sykes pointed to the bathroom where Misty was when she noticed Haleigh missing.

 

[kiki the parrot]

What has me going crazy (-er) lately is the where. Ie where could this have taken place and been witnessed by so few (if any) other people. There was no sign inside mh of struggle nor any other evidence there afaik, according to LE.

Which brings me back to the surrounding property, and dog tracking route... including pond, outbuilding etc.

So I am resurrecting an ancient theory of my own. The only reason I abandoned this eventually was because of the temps that time of year--and the unlikelihood that a child, even Haleigh's age, would be drawn to such cold water. I've now been reconsidering given she could have possibly fallen into--versus voluntarily entered the water.

Where is the shared culpabilty or how to explain Ron's peculiar actions in aftermath? Maybe RC and MC were too busy having it out at the mh while Haleigh and her brother were roaming unsupervised. After Haleigh, Junior (and possibly another child or cousin) explore the outbuilding they approach the nearby pond. Haleigh races ahead of Junior, who is distracted or lags behind... neither Junior (nor any other child possibly present) witness his sister's fall from the muddy water's edge as she slips silently beneath the water's surface.

As he walks the path back alone, Junior wonders to himself "Where's sissy?" eventually reaching the mh. There, RC and MC are busy now making up... and when questioned, he says "I dunno she was with me before..." RC and MC exchange nervous glances as they head in the direction from which they saw Junior come.

When they get to the edge of the water, they discover Haleigh--after rushing her to the mh and attempting to revive her (perhaps seeking help from someone else) they realize it's too late. They both feel responsible, deciding nothing's to be gained and it will only compound the tragedy, foul up custody and RC's money, to admit it was their negligence and poor supervision that caused her death.

They decide instead to wait until dark and take her to the docks at the river's edge--perhaps w assistance from someone w a boat--and she is weighted and released into the water. In the meantime they begin crafting and staging the abduction story. Explains dogs picking up scent along path all the way to the pond, and at docks. This way if and when she is found, they can claim it was a 'stranger' who must have dumped her in the river.

arrot:

 

[LFlorida]

Right off-hand, I'd have to say no, Kiki - too many witnesses over by the river down at the end of Buchanan. However, after all of the bizarre stuff I've seen re: this case [or think I've seen], I have no idea.

It was posted in the scanner stuff that someone was trying to break in to the weather outpost down around Welaka earlier today [or last night.] That really got my attention because I have wondered if she wasn't placed on a locked, restricted, seldom-checked piece of property owned by the gov't [or University of Fla]. With this XO cold weather, it crossed my mind that maybe someone got worried that the station would be checked by UF or NOAA personnel [whoever runs it] or that the underbrush would die back and reveal what lies beneath.

I'll have to remember to ck that out further. Seems like the unattended weather data gathering stations are part of a program called FAWN.

 

[Whisperer]

Ok, let's assume rc was gone for 12 hours all work related. That leaves the entire crime, according to me on misty's shoulders. I have no problem with that. I can see where Misty may be the one responsible for Haleigh's demise. What I can't see is rc covering her every word and believing her NOT responsible in any way.

He hooks himself on her star and insists she is not guilty and it never crosses his mind that she could be. He knows she was partying and tends to do teen type things but never asks anyone to go over and see if she and the kids are ok. He calls people but then says he never told them to go check even when one lives 2 minutes from the house. Ron makes it clear that he did NOT tell him to go check. Then WTHl was the phone call all about then? Is rc seriously lacking that many brain cells? It is preposterous for anyone to think otherwise if he made 20 calls but didn't want or expect anyone to check up on the house or kids. He is in cover-up mode. It could be he did not directly harm haleigh but knows who did and thinks he would be held responsible and is in defense mode.

 

[Whisperer]

At this point, it would be wise for LE to clear rc publicly and put the squeeze on misty. They are not doing this, which makes no sense if they know he is not involved. This kind of tactic leads the public to crucify ron cummings. ron cummings is not doing anything to help erase that assumption. One has to wonder why.

By not speaking out and by hiring Defense Attorneys, he is behaving as a guilty party. To further the cause, LE is letting him think it. Why is LE not clearing him publicly? Why are they letting him take all the heat? The only answer I can think of, is that he is guilty...guilty of something.

To seal this casel, we need to make sure Haleigh was actually at school...not by a suspect attendance record or by witnesses that could be confused on the day if they were not questioned immediately, but by school officials.

The next thing would be PDM to clear rc as being there the entire shift (and state the hours).

Because these things are not confirmed and people's lips are sealed, what is the general public to think? Le, FDLE have no inerest in clearing him....period. That is my take. His own Attorney said they cannot verify every hours...didn't he...or am I not recalling his exact words correctly.

I want LE to clear him publicly. Then they could proceed to get the one responsible if he had nothing to do with this.

 

[titanfan62702]

I still lean towards that whatever happened to HaLeigh is not the real crime, that being something accidental. If I'm correct, the real crime is in the coverup and Ron comes across as being a major player.

If he were totally innocent, why didn't he lay it all out? Look at me, talk to me, question me ... no he puts on his truck something about only God can judge me.

 

[Whisperer]

I can't stand his truck or his stupid motto. He is arrogant as all get out driving around thumbing his nose at everyone with those words.