Theory #2: Family Abduction by George Waters with George Brody, Part 2

[SherlockJr]

Several months ago I purchased a list of residents at 630 Geary. Eliminating a lot of the names by gender and age, I still have a list of males I'm researching. One name that keeps popping out at me is Walter J Brady. There was a person with the same name who was a commissioner of a small town Galestown, in Dorchester County, MD in 1951. Further research on the Brady name there was a boxer (I know everyone is thinking "not another boxer search!") from New Jersey. He was know as "Irish Bobby Brady" and fought until sometime around 1930. I have not been able to locate a picture of this boxer. Can anyone who has a subscription to a newspaper archive, find a picture to post here?

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Several months ago I purchased a list of residents at 630 Geary. Eliminating a lot of the names by gender and age, I still have a list of males I'm researching. One name that keeps popping out at me is Walter J Brady. There was a person with the same name who was a commissioner of a small town Galestown, in Dorchester County, MD in 1951. Further research on the Brady name there was a boxer (I know everyone is thinking "not another boxer search!") from New Jersey. He was know as "Irish Bobby Brady" and fought until sometime around 1930. I have not been able to locate a picture of this boxer. Can anyone who has a subscription to a newspaper archive, find a picture to post here?

The surname of Brady is obviously relatively common, but I do like the tie-in to the reports of Brody being in politics back east. Also, the boxing angle may show promise. Everyone ready to dive back into the boxing pool?

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Here is the ring record of "Irish Bobby Brady". It lists that he died 5/1/1967, so this is probably not Brody, unless he faked his death.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=042297

 

[SherlockJr]

Here is the ring record of "Irish Bobby Brady". It lists that he died 5/1/1967, so this is probably not Brody, unless he faked his death.

Doing a quick search in death indexes, I found no Brady born 1908 that died in 1967.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Doing a quick search in death indexes, I found no Brady born 1908 that died in 1967.

If the SSDI is your source, he probably wouldn't be listed there since he "died" at age 59 (before he would have accesses Social Security).

I must admit that the timing of his "death" is convienient - coming three months before Brody was to receive the insurance payout on Margaret Kukoda. The notice of his "death" to the boxing association could have simply been a letter from "a relative" in San Francisco saying that "Bobby had died". No official paperwork would have been necessary.

Also, the fact that this Brady seemed to be fighting out of the same general area that so many of these roads take us to (Philly, New Jersey) is very curious.

This is, of course, all speculation that Bobby Brady was George Brody. A picture of Brady would be helpful here. I wonder if someone in the New Jersey Boxing Hall of Fame might be able to locate one or provide us more information.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

This is, of course, all speculation that Bobby Brady was George Brody. A picture of Brady would be helpful here.

Ask, and ye shall receive...

It doesn't look like Brody to me. I'll compare the handwriting here to the writing by Brody on the portrait ("From here through enternity...")

 

[Dr. Doogie]

The handwriting looks different to me.

 

[MagicRose99]

One's cursive, the other's printed... hard to tell on the handwriting... but, I agree... I don't see much resembelance between the two pics, though the age difference makes it harder to see if there was any.

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Since we are jumping into the boxing pool again, I will say something I shared before with this, as it may serve a useful source of info at some point, so archive it for the future if you want to Doogie...In San Francisco, they had a rather large boxing museum, which had to be taken down and put into storage, after the 1989 earthquake. Whether or not they found a new home for it, I do not know, but if Brody was truly a boxer, and he fought in the bay area, they would have a wealth of info on him, even if the pic doesn't match his name. Perhaps someone with the SF historical society might have knowledge of this data.

 

[skywatchn]

The information that they provided matched exactly with what we know: that Margaret died, was cremated and her "boyfriend" sent the ashes back to the family for burial in PA. No stolen identity is suspected - Margaret is who we believed her to be. Now, Brody is a different story...

Was there any picture ID of our Margaret Kukoda (a picture of her when she was in the paper for performing abortions illegally) shown to her family for visual verification that both women are one in the same? Also, Doogie, did the family verify that their Margaret was indeed a nurse?

 

[SherlockJr]

Some interesting information I learned today. Working with an adoptee, the one born on the day MK died, we located her birthfather and had some lengthy conversation. This poor fellow had no idea his x g/f back in the 60's had a baby, so my phone call was somewhat of a shock to him. Anyway he was telling me his whole life. He had lived in SF from the early 70's till mid 90's. He mentioned he had 2 close friends who died shortly after each other. Then he was telling me he lived in the Tenderloin area of SF. Anyway what I learned from him was that during the 70's no one was allowed to live in a hotel longer than 28 days. He said it was very common to move between the same 2 hotels all the time. This would explain the reason they kept a room at the Sutter Ave address.

 

[Cubby]

Some interesting information I learned today. Working with an adoptee, the one born on the day MK died, we located her birthfather and had some lengthy conversation. This poor fellow had no idea his x g/f back in the 60's had a baby, so my phone call was somewhat of a shock to him. Anyway he was telling me his whole life. He had lived in SF from the early 70's till mid 90's. He mentioned he had 2 close friends who died shortly after each other. Then he was telling me he lived in the Tenderloin area of SF. Anyway what I learned from him was that during the 70's no one was allowed to live in a hotel longer than 28 days. He said it was very common to move between the same 2 hotels all the time. This would explain the reason they kept a room at the Sutter Ave address.

Holy Crap! Are you going to send him a pic of the two Georges?

Also, glad you have another possible reunion. How sad he never knew of his daughter and lost so many years.

 

[SherlockJr]

Holy Crap! Are you going to send him a pic of the two Georges?

Also, glad you have another possible reunion. How sad he never knew of his daughter and lost so many years.

Not just yet, he needs time to absorb the bomb I hit him with.

 

[smile22]

omg what if his friends were the georges

 

[kyresearcher]

Smile22, that is exactally what I though of when I read about the 2 friends who died close to each other. Wouldn't that be something if he knew the 2 Georges.

 

[natasha-cupcake]

Wow! Sherlock, you never cease to amaze me! If/when you talk to this man again, let him know that he has our collective empathy and cyber-support. What an enormous coincidence it would be, if the Georges were indeed his friends. I can't imagine such a huge coincidence, but nothing about Anna's story really surprises me anymore.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Based on the new information that Annasmom has uncovered in the BFH, we may want to narrow our focus for the time being on the two Georges.

A summary of what has been recently found and what I believe it is pointing us to:

*George Waters took a vacation around September 1971. He appears to have made a stop at Chicago O'Hare airport - whether this was the final destination or just a transfer-point is unknown. Chicago would be a logical transfer point if GW was visting his parents in Wisconson. However, correspondence in the BFH indicate that he had broken off all communication from his family a year or so earlier.

He received "permission" (undoubtedly from Brody) to carry a picture of "M" with him on this vacation. "M" could be either "Margaret" (Kukoda) or "Michaele" (Annasmom). There is elsewhere another reference to a picture of Margaret, but her name is spelled out there. It is unknown exactly who "M" is, but either way seems suspicious.

*Waters applied for a new passport, stating that his previous one was destroyed in a fire. This is obviously false, since no fires occured at the hotel, nor was there a fireplace where it could have accidently been incinerated. If his passport had been destroyed by other means, or was lost, it would not have required a ruse. I can only come to one conclusion: that Waters was attempting to hide the stamps of which countries he had travelled to by getting a replacement passport.

*Waters made a reference to the Italian Consulate in his notebook, yet there is no record of him travelling there either on vacation or for professional business.

*Waters was meticulous (obsessive?) in his record-keeping, yet appears to have purged records of entire bank accounts or several months of other accounts during the period between Brody's death and his suicide. The fact that only certain things were destroyed (as compared to a wholesale cleansing of all records) is telling - there was something specific that he was attempting to hide. The only evidence of the existence of these accounts are small items that appear to have been overlooked in his frenzy of activity.

*Both Waters and Brody seemed to be obsessed with the possibility that Anna or other family members may have a legal claim againts the estate of Waters if he were to have died. Plans were made to have a will drawn up bequeathing only $1 to Anna in an attempt to avoid any legal challenge. Accidental death policies were issued for Waters using Anna as the interm beneficiary, then switched to Brody as the beneficiary. Anna was viewed by these two in only one aspect - that she was the potential spoiler in their financial schemes. Having Anna disappear would solve many of their concerns. It cannot be a coincidence that she ultimately did disappear.

In summation, Waters made a suspicious, out of character, trip in 1971 to (at least) Chicago, carrying a picture of "M". He lied about needing a replacement passport, effectively hiding where he had travelled out of the country. He eliminated certain (but not all) financial records, evidently to hide certain transactions. And he showed total disregard for the financial well-being of his daughter by conniving with Brody to effectively preclude any inheritance going to her - is it too much of a stretch to think that he could have connived to physically remove her from equation also?

Because of the potential international aspects of these new clues, we probably should expand our search to other countries. Because his known travels seem to have been in Europe, we should start there.

Our work just got a whole lot more difficult... :banghead:

 

[Cubby]

This is precisely why I believe Annasmom should pursue what it would take to obtain a court order to determine whether or not a passport was issued for Anna. Technically this case is still open as it's never been solved, and Anna was a minor at the time- I really can't see a judge saying no.
I imagine Annasmom wouldn't be the first person to do so, and it would be a matter of getting something in writing, or a detective/LE in front of the judge for an ok. Maybe we should further inquire into someone who has already done so...... Out of my range, other than a good friend near SF who is a fathers rights activist. She might know someone in that area...... but then again, any parental abduction most likely would still be minors. I'd be happy to ask and dig around.

Also, did GW associate with anyone in Wisconsin area? I could help here.... as I am in the burbs of Chicago. Just got back from Wisconsin a few days ago.

Thoughts?

 

[smile22]

well he mentions italy so should we start there? or should we look into wisconson first?

 

[SherlockJr]

We know that GW applied for a new passport on July 2, 1971. I understand the information received from the passport office does not show any international travel. Is this correct Annasmom? The passport was not in the BFH, it was kept by his brother? Could GW apply for a new
passport even though he kept his older passport and still used the older passport after 1971? Things were not computerized back then, all he would have to do is show his passport that was issued in 1968. Then sometime after Jan 1973, this older passport was destroyed.