Timmy & Chelsea Croslin; and the hours before Haleigh went missing.

[twall]

i did find one a while back but it is no longer listed on white pages under destineys name and when i did find it it was a crescent city one just found a phone number in kristy overstreets name (joe's sister) listed as an address for hank on magnolia in satsuma... the point i was trying to make is if your looking for these people try finding out whose identity they were using at the time lol

That is difficult to do with these grifters!

 

[Whisperer]

that is exactly what misty said in the lva... it was tommy's truck but hank needed it to get around to appointments etc. so he gave tommy 500 not to sell it but he did anyways to some black guy that misty knew where the black guy lived... i always thought it was weird that she supposedly didn't know the black guys name but knew where he lived... my interpretation tommy really wanted money and misty wanted to pretend she didn't know the black guy... in my mind he is probably one of their dealers jmo of course

Could the Black guy be Jerome? Everyone recall the odd behavior of Tommy and it was said he visited Jerome after this all came down. I was shocked myself because Jerome was Nay's pimp and a big-time drug dealer in the area.
Gads, I hope tommy didn't trade the truck for dope.

 

[doobiedoo52]

no not exactly... there are different levels of unpublished i don't have example links but sometimes it will say john doe and a street address or just a city and then for number unavailable and sometimes it will say no matches found even when there is a phone...
also you can delete your own info

Yes there are different levels--nonpub is absolutely no release, nonlisted means it is not in the directory but available if needed.

 

[elle1919]

are you guys ready for this one... 130 magnlia satsuma is listed to a kristy overstreet as in joe overstreets sister except she lives in tennessee (really actually does live there) i had no clue why you guys were even talking about this address but i remembered it from when i was digging up the overstreets
here is the white pages link
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=130+magnolia&where=32189
here is the myspace link
http://www.myspace.com/krissy53185
meet kristy joe's sister and if i was to guess it was another case of borrowing a family members identity as both timmy and hank sr have used destiney's (tim daugter) before

Yes, that all sounds about right.

 

[doobiedoo52]

Good work, btw E-U-R! I had a doh moment there because I actually remember seeing the Daytona address under daughter's name :banghead:

My feeble old brain just skims right over some things LOL.

 

[nurselady]

I truly hope they have searched this residence.

 

[B4igo2it]

I truly hope they have searched this residence.

I was thinking the same exact thing!

 

[Whisperer]

Are we all on the same page that Chelsea and Timmy lived on Magnolia in Crescent City? since there are two/three magnolias, I lose my focus.

Somebody tell me when Lisa and Hank lived in San Mateo near marvin martin....since there is also a Magnolia in Satsuma/San mateo area..this is getting more and more difficult to track.

Marvin, the victim knew to call Chelsea to find Lisa and Hank....odd. Remember the guy saying misty told him to pray for her and she didn't want to babysit anymore or something like that.

 

[Kimster]

Magnolia is the place GER wanted help with in the basement. I haven't been keeping up! W@W!

 

[Whisperer]

Please refresh my memory. Marvin called LE about his gun but he had his gun in his possession and turned him in anyway. I can't access my computer with my research. he got the gun back right away because he called Chelsea. How in the world did he know her number?

Wasn't it quite a few months that went by before he told LE about it. He said the Croslins used to be his neighbor and used to use his phone. They knocked on his door at 4:00am to use his phone. These people are used to sleeping all day and awake all night (rc included) imo.

Anyway did tommy steal the collector's gun before or after Haleigh vanished. Since we know the gun theft happened, I am trying to place where Hank and Lisa lived. We know at the time of the theft they were gone from the San Mateo neighborhood; we also know they had to live there too. We also know that he knew Chelsea and Timmy. Is this because they also lived nearby at the time?

I would love to talk to this guy. He must have a wealth of information.

 

[Whisperer]

Magnolia is the place GER wanted help with in the basement. I haven't been keeping up! W@W!

When was that Kimster?

 

[B4igo2it]

whisp: page 4, Baxter's post # 87 this thread answers your questions (some)

 

[B4igo2it]

GER went out to take photos of the Magnolia addy for us today, but her battery died on her camera. She will go out again tomorrow to take photos.
She took photos of all the Magnolia addys in Satsuma, but we don't think that is where Hank Lisa were living. She is going to the one LF posted TATE owner, (appraisal records) we think we have narrowed it down to that being the house they lived at, the 130 Mag...
http://www.putnam-fl.com/patc.inq/pa/dpa2.pl?id=37651

The big problem is so many Magnolia roads in the area, GER took photos on Sunday and they are posted - Parking Lot thread, I think.
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[newstome]

Please refresh my memory. Marvin called LE about his gun but he had his gun in his possession and turned him in anyway. I can't access my computer with my research. he got the gun back right away because he called Chelsea. How in the world did he know her number?

Wasn't it quite a few months that went by before he told LE about it. He said the Croslins used to be his neighbor and used to use his phone. They knocked on his door at 4:00am to use his phone. These people are used to sleeping all day and awake all night (rc included) imo.

Anyway did tommy steal the collector's gun before or after Haleigh vanished. Since we know the gun theft happened, I am trying to place where Hank and Lisa lived. We know at the time of the theft they were gone from the San Mateo neighborhood; we also know they had to live there too. We also know that he knew Chelsea and Timmy. Is this because they also lived nearby at the time?

I would love to talk to this guy. He must have a wealth of information.

Whisperer, I'm sure they had a cordless phone or access to one with all people living in that mobile home, they were their to rob him. They probably called him many times before and he wrote down the number that came up, from his phone. Unfortunatly, for them, they miscalculated the degree of his blindless. He seemed like a very sweet man who generally gave the Croslin's the benifit of a doubt. But this time, they took a family heirlom, not woth much $ but had great sentimental value.
I have a feeling that C family also "borrowed" nieghbors items, and when asked to return, they probably "lost" the item.
I'm pretty sure the gun was taken, after Haleigh went missing.

 

[doobiedoo52]

Are we all on the same page that Chelsea and Timmy lived on Magnolia in Crescent City? since there are two/three magnolias, I lose my focus.

Somebody tell me when Lisa and Hank lived in San Mateo near marvin martin....since there is also a Magnolia in Satsuma/San mateo area..this is getting more and more difficult to track.

Marvin, the victim knew to call Chelsea to find Lisa and Hank....odd. Remember the guy saying misty told him to pray for her and she didn't want to babysit anymore or something like that.

Um, no Whisp. Hank & Lisa were the ones listing Magnolia as their address on the hospital lien. I still think Tim & Chelsea were on Paradise Shores road north of Crescent City.

 

[elle1919]

Please refresh my memory. Marvin called LE about his gun but he had his gun in his possession and turned him in anyway. I can't access my computer with my research. he got the gun back right away because he called Chelsea. How in the world did he know her number? On 8/25/2009 Det Ken Taylor made contact with Mr Martin to let him know that he thought he might be the victim of a crime. Snipped from police report below: INVESTIGATIVE DETAILS:
On August 25, 2009, I made contact with Marvin (M.P.) Martin, at his residence located at 204 Sunglow Ave. I
advised Mr. Martin I had received information that he was possibly the victim of a theft form his residence.
Mr. Martin told his pistol had been stolen, but he had gotten back. I asked Mr. Martin to explain the
circumstances of the theft.
Mr. Martin advised me Hank Sr. and Lisa Croslin used to live next door to him, and he had remained friendly with
the family even after they had moved away. Mr. Martin was unable to tell me the exact day the theft occurred but
he believed it was possibly last Wednesday or Thursday (08-19-09 or 08-20-09), Lisa Croslin and Hank Croslin Jr.
had come over to his residence to use his telephone, which they did often, due to the fact there telephone at
there residence had been turned off.

Wasn't it quite a few months that went by before he told LE about it. He said the Croslins used to be his neighbor and used to use his phone. They knocked on his door at 4:00am to use his phone. These people are used to sleeping all day and awake all night (rc included) imo.

Anyway did tommy steal the collector's gun before or after Haleigh vanished. Since we know the gun theft happened, I am trying to place where Hank and Lisa lived. We know at the time of the theft they were gone from the San Mateo neighborhood; we also know they had to live there too. We also know that he knew Chelsea and Timmy. Is this because they also lived nearby at the time?

I would love to talk to this guy. He must have a wealth of information.

I tried to answer one of your questions above in purple. Not sure if you can access links from your computer but here is the link to the police report http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/09/16/croslin.police.report.pdf

Just in case you can't open the link here is the narrative, the theft occurred after Haleigh went missing and I had originally wondered about the timing of the arrest as well, seems soon after one of the Croslins gets taken in for questioning another one is arrested for something. I thought perhaps it was Misty that told Detective Taylor that Tommy stole a gun from Mr Martin but the witness on the police report is Lisa Croslin.

Police report narrative: ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
2009 - 7481
Detective Ken Taylor D1177
INVESTIGATIVE DETAILS:
On August 25, 2009, I made contact with Marvin (M.P.) Martin, at his residence located at 204 Sunglow Ave. I
advised Mr. Martin I had received information that he was possibly the victim of a theft form his residence.
Mr. Martin told his pistol had been stolen, but he had gotten back. I asked Mr. Martin to explain the
circumstances of the theft.
Mr. Martin advised me Hank Sr. and Lisa Croslin used to live next door to him, and he had remained friendly with
the family even after they had moved away. Mr. Martin was unable to tell me the exact day the theft occurred but
he believed it was possibly last Wednesday or Thursday (08-19-09 or 08-20-09), Lisa Croslin and Hank Croslin Jr.
had come over to his residence to use his telephone, which they did often, due to the fact there telephone at
there residence had been turned off.
Mr. Martin advised me he noticed his firearm, a Colt Army Special .38 caliber revolver missing from his bedroom,
either on Friday or Saturday he was unsure. Mr. Martin told me he called Timmy Croslin residence, the son of
Lisa Croslin. I asked Mr. Martin where Timmy Croslin lived. Mr. Croslin told me he was not sure, he only knew it
was somewhere in New Jersey. I looked through Mr. Martin's caller identification phone and located a number
he believed belonged to Timmy Croslin (774) 268-9166, but he was unsure. Mr. Martin told me he spoke with
Timmy's wife; he was unable to remember her name. Mr. Martin stated he told her "I know either Lisa or Hank
stole my gun and I want it back." I asked Mr. Martin why he was so sure one of them had stolen the firearm. Mr.
Martin told me they had been the only ones inside his residence, and he has not been anywhere since they had
been at his residence.
I asked Mr. Martin how he got the firearm back. Mr. Martin told me about two hours after he made the call, to
Timmy Croslin's wife, Lisa and Hank Croslin Sr. arrived at his house and returned the firearm to him. I asked Mr.
Martin who he thought had stolen his firearm, Lisa or Hank Jr .. Mr. Croslin said that Lisa told him that Hank Jr.
Had stolen the firearm, but he was not sure which one of them had stolen the firearm.
In view of the above listed information, this investigation is deemed cleared pending. Further reports will be
rendered on a timely basis, if and when deemed warranted.
Clearance Status: CASE NOT CLEARED Clearance Code: ADULT Number of Cases Cleared 1
Case Not Cleared Type. CASE NOT CLEARED (DETECTIVE FOLLOW-UP)

 

[elle1919]

are you guys ready for this one... 130 magnlia satsuma is listed to a kristy overstreet as in joe overstreets sister except she lives in tennessee (really actually does live there) i had no clue why you guys were even talking about this address but i remembered it from when i was digging up the overstreets
here is the white pages link
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=130+magnolia&where=32189
here is the myspace link
http://www.myspace.com/krissy53185
meet kristy joe's sister and if i was to guess it was another case of borrowing a family members identity as both timmy and hank sr have used destiney's (tim daugter) before

Kristy is def Joe's sister as is Kayla, who has also been mentioned on numerous occasions throughout this investigation by Misty.

another link: http://www.myspace.com/380818970

 

[4Jacy]

Are we all on the same page that Chelsea and Timmy lived on Magnolia in Crescent City? since there are two/three magnolias, I lose my focus.

Somebody tell me when Lisa and Hank lived in San Mateo near marvin martin....since there is also a Magnolia in Satsuma/San mateo area..this is getting more and more difficult to track.

Marvin, the victim knew to call Chelsea to find Lisa and Hank....odd. Remember the guy saying misty told him to pray for her and she didn't want to babysit anymore or something like that.

BBM WOW, I had forgotten about that Whisp. Do you remember when that was and what the situation was? tia

 

[Kimster]

When was that Kimster?

Just these past few days!

 

[E-U-R]

GER went out to take photos of the Magnolia addy for us today, but her battery died on her camera. She will go out again tomorrow to take photos.
She took photos of all the Magnolia addys in Satsuma, but we don't think that is where Hank Lisa were living. She is going to the one LF posted TATE owner, (appraisal records) we think we have narrowed it down to that being the house they lived at, the 130 Mag...
http://www.putnam-fl.com/patc.inq/pa/dpa2.pl?id=37651

The big problem is so many Magnolia roads in the area, GER took photos on Sunday and they are posted - Parking Lot thread, I think.
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

it is definitely the one off of shore drive that is the exact address in question