TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #27

[R.U.Kidding!]

I think my statement may have been misunderstood.

What I was trying to say, is that I don't understand how Holly's cousin being on a television show has anything at all to do with finding Holly. Or why it would be 'dismissive' of her cousin to be on a tv show. :waitasec:

If Holly had a cousin who was an oncologist, and who continued to treat cancer patients while Holly was missing- or a cousin who was a cosmetologist who continued to cut hair while Holly was missing- or a cousin who was a pet sitter who continued to take care of other peoples' pets... would that make them 'dismissive' of Holly's situation??

And why on earth does it matter what Holly's cousin is doing??

And I feel the need to say again, that WS's is a victim friendly forum. Mod's- please correct me if I am mistaken- but imvho, this train of thought is completely useless in the search for Holly, and does not respect the victims' family.

Oriah-

Sorry , let me try this again.

You are right--Whitney involvement with the Survivor show will absolutely not help in finding Holly. However some on here feel she did this to "keep Holly's case" out there, and my point is "good try" but don't think so.

IMOO- It is dismissive of the severity of the case and it's impact on Whitney.

Could YOU Oriah, with your Sister-like cousin still missing, just say
"Survivor? what a great idea!!!" On Tv, Millions of people watching,and snappy little promos leading up to the new season. Holly Who??

The comparisons to Cosmetologists, Pet Sitters,and Oncologists continuing their profession in light of a tragedy is what they should do....but if one of them left their job to go on a reality show--How weird would that be...and that is what makes the whole Whitney/ Survivor thing strange.

Furthermore I think WS is extremely considerate of the Bobo family as victims. No disrespectful accusations here, only discussion.

 

[Oriah]

Oriah-

Sorry , let me try this again.

You are right--Whitney involvement with the Survivor show will absolutely not help in finding Holly. However some on here feel she did this to "keep Holly's case" out there, and my point is "good try" but don't think so.

IMOO- It is dismissive of the severity of the case and it's impact on Whitney.

Could YOU Oriah, with your Sister-like cousin still missing, just say
"Survivor? what a great idea!!!" On Tv, Millions of people watching,and snappy little promos leading up to the new season. Holly Who??

The comparisons to Cosmetologists, Pet Sitters,and Oncologists continuing their profession in light of a tragedy is what they should do....but if one of them left their job to go on a reality show--How weird would that be...and that is what makes the whole Whitney/ Survivor thing strange.

Furthermore I think WS is extremely considerate of the Bobo family as victims. No disrespectful accusations here, only discussion.

BBM:
Nope.

But then again, it's my job to find missing and lost persons. And I have no sister-like cousins, lol. So I guess I'm a bad judge, because I wouldn't be going on a reality show either way- my reality is not tv. It's finding real-life missing persons. Holly's cousin is a performer. So a tv show does not strike me as odd at all for her.

I suppose I feel I have come across enough friends and families of missing persons- and in particular, those missing under traumatic and/or violent circumstances- to make a conscious decision to try and NOT judge their behavior- or the place they are at- when they decide to continue their career, or carry on with their life in many other ways.

That said, I personally completely agree that Holly's cousin has a wonderful opportunity to get Holly's name and face out to the public due to the degree of publicity surrounding her career.
But I feel strongly that each loved one of a missing person should be free to decide how they would like to handle that decision themselves, without criticism- barring possible involvement in the missing persons disappearance.

I do not think Holly's cousin had a thing to do with her abduction; I think she has chosen to pursue her career in the manner she has chosen, while still having sensitivity about Holly's abduction. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. It might not be our thing- but it's hers.

I would hate to be judged for returning to SAR immediately after having a loved one go missing. Ironic, huh?
But do you see what I'm trying to say?

 

[~n/t~]

yeah that someone was supposed to go get :crazy:

Each interview has little nuggets...

So perhaps the screams were early...

Now its the son of a neighbor who heard them...

Bobo's kept house and cars unlocked...

What version are we on? I forget. :waitasec:

 

[~n/t~]

Oriah, are you in LE or part of a search organization? Just curious because you said it is your job to find missing persons.

 

[Oriah]

Oriah, are you in LE or part of a search organization? Just curious because you said it is your job to find missing persons.

Professional SAR. We work with LE all the time.

 

[wfgodot]

Thread #27 Round-Up
Missing in Tennessee

Shelly Mook....178 days
Holly Bobo......134 days
Zaylee Fryar....118 days
Gail Palmgren..113 days

 

[~n/t~]

More -

Karen said she was in her school's cafeteria when she got the message that a neighbor's son had heard screams coming from their home.

"I think at that point I knew something was wrong because I knew Holly had a test, a big test, that day," she said. "And at the time she came and told me that, Holly should've already been gone to school."

Karen said Clint, who was at home asleep at the time, did not hear screams.

"Well, when I spoke to Clint, and he asked me did Holly not have school today because her car was still here, then I really knew something," Karen said.

He also asked his mom if Holly was going hunting with her boyfriend. Karen said no and that her daughter should have already been at school because she had a test.

Karen panicked, making two calls to the police as she made her way home and informed her husband, who also rushed home from work.

She said when her son realized what had happened, he also called the police.

The family said they still believe that Holly is alive, and that belief drives them.

IDK but for a family who allegedly spends almost every night having dinner together, I find it odd that CB would not have known Holly had an important exam that morning.

What a close family unit. Dinner together almost every night. Baking muffins every morning. ok off to read .....I only had time to read the highlights.

 

[~n/t~]

No mention of DS in any of the articles? Did I miss it? :waitasec:

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

BBM:
Nope.

But then again, it's my job to find missing and lost persons. And I have no sister-like cousins, lol. So I guess I'm a bad judge, because I wouldn't be going on a reality show either way- my reality is not tv. It's finding real-life missing persons. Holly's cousin is a performer. So a tv show does not strike me as odd at all for her.

I suppose I feel I have come across enough friends and families of missing persons- and in particular, those missing under traumatic and/or violent circumstances- to make a conscious decision to try and NOT judge their behavior- or the place they are at- when they decide to continue their career, or carry on with their life in many other ways.

That said, I personally completely agree that Holly's cousin has a wonderful opportunity to get Holly's name and face out to the public due to the degree of publicity surrounding her career.
But I feel strongly that each loved one of a missing person should be free to decide how they would like to handle that decision themselves, without criticism- barring possible involvement in the missing persons disappearance.

I do not think Holly's cousin had a thing to do with her abduction; I think she has chosen to pursue her career in the manner she has chosen, while still having sensitivity about Holly's abduction. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. It might not be our thing- but it's hers.

I would hate to be judged for returning to SAR immediately after having a loved one go missing. Ironic, huh?
But do you see what I'm trying to say?

Forgive me Oriah, I had forgotten you have a Search and Rescue background.
You have first hand experience in working with victims and their family, and I can understand your POV. Please know I never meant to give the impression Whitney had anything to do with her cousins disappearance, I like you would just react to that kind of trauma in a very different way.

....but then those differences are what make us human! Thank you for your service. Sleuth-on.....:seeya:

 

[plaidmom]

I agree. It might also be noted that a young, aspiring singer who is apparently not nationally recognized would take any opportunity to be seen on t.v. in hopes of furthering her career... even if it's just a reality show.
There is nothing wrong with that, IMO. People cannot put their lives on hold when there is a crisis in the family. She has to think of her own future.
Eventually, everybody has to return to their lives, and their jobs. It's difficult, but no one can stay in limbo forever.

I think it's fine to move on and pursue goals.

However, I think what I, and perhaps other WS posters, may be having a hard time digesting is that the show happens to be Survivor.

Sure, it's just a game. A game where the players are dropped off in a remote location and forced to perform out-of-the ordinary tasks in order to preserve their (virtual) lives. Survivor Philippines was actually subtitled "Kidnapped!" BTW.

Soooo, it's not just joining a reality TV show that is troublesome IMHO. It's the thought that the cousin will be "pretending" to suffer hardships that may very well be close to HB's reality; being whisked away, disoriented, and without supplies, possibly tortured psychologically, and finally having to plead for one's life (virtual in the cousin's case, real in HB's).

I do have to wonder if that is one of the reasons she was chosen.

I think if she had joined the cast of "American Idol" or "America's Got Talent" or something along those lines that was actually related to her singing career, perhaps there might be less negative feedback.

JMO.

 

[Darcyline]

Explained by plaidmom, I see why people are a bit upset. However, this is technically her career and how she feeds herself. I won't attack her for taking a huge opportunity for an entertainer to receive. I am guessing Holly would have wanted her to take it too.

 

[plaidmom]

Explained by plaidmom, I see why people are a bit upset. However, this is technically her career and how she feeds herself. I won't attack her for taking a huge opportunity for an entertainer to receive. I am guessing Holly would have wanted her to take it too.

Thanks for being willing to entertain an opposing POV.

Since this is a victim-friendly forum, I thought I'd share the following tidbit from the "Survivor" wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_(TV_series)

The producers have generally made sure that all players will not back out prior to being stranded, and will generally have backup players on hand if they believe, from psychological profiles, that one or more will drop out.

BBM.

So the producers must KNOW that Whitney recently lost a loved one to abduction. And they are willing to bet on that.

Let's face it, a beautiful young blonde woman breaking down in front of the camera makes for good TV.

So, now I am not only concerned for Holly, but worried about her cousin as well.

That kind of exploitation makes me sick.

 

[cluciano63]

Personally I think the whole concept of "Survivor" is sick, no matter who is on it, JMO.

 

[shefner]

If you spend some time observing human nature, you'll soon feel a kick in the pants.

Self-preservation = necessary
Self-promoting = acceptable
Self-serving = yuck
Self-adoring = double yuck

 

[T4Tide]

No mention of DS in any of the articles? Did I miss it? :waitasec:

I may be wrong with my paraphrasing, and I'm on tapatalk, so no links...but didn't DS's grandmother say that HB and DS spent every single evening/night together and that the night of April 13th was the first one they had spent apart in a year? If so, did DS eat dinner with the Bobo's almost every night, also?

 

[JeannieC]

I may be wrong with my paraphrasing, and I'm on tapatalk, so no links...but didn't DS's grandmother say that HB and DS spent every single evening/night together and that the night of April 13th was the first one they had spent apart in a year? If so, did DS eat dinner with the Bobo's almost every night, also?

I don't believe it was mentioned as far as him having dinner with them but I'm sure he did if he was there every evening.

 

[helpfindthemissing]

Karen said she was in her school's cafeteria when she got the message that a neighbor's son had heard screams coming from their home.

"I think at that point I knew something was wrong because I knew Holly had a test, a big test, that day," she said. "And at the time she came and told me that, Holly should've already been gone to school."

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/index...-grieve-hope/4c09f19a56bc44da8dbbf24602b22cc7

Now it was a neighbors son who heard the screams? Maybe this is old news,IDK I dont remember seeing anything on that before.

 

[Whisperer]

Interesting to note the Bobo's didn't lock their doors or cars. The perp may have been in the house earlier or even waiting in her car. Maybe that is why she dropped the coke next to the car...

 

[Oriah]

Interesting to note the Bobo's didn't lock their doors or cars. The perp may have been in the house earlier or even waiting in her car. Maybe that is why she dropped the coke next to the car...

That's an interesting point, Whisperer.

I wonder if the dog(s) initially used, trailed from the car- or the Bobo's home.

 

[~n/t~]

I may be wrong with my paraphrasing, and I'm on tapatalk, so no links...but didn't DS's grandmother say that HB and DS spent every single evening/night together and that the night of April 13th was the first one they had spent apart in a year? If so, did DS eat dinner with the Bobo's almost every night, also?

IIRC, she was referring to the day Holly disappeared. That night was the first night they spent apart because she was missing. I'm guessing he was over there a lot.

I'm wondering what happened to the part in the article where it said KB texted DS every night. Is it the same article or is it a new one that we're still waiting on?:waitasec: