GUILTY TX - Adrian Peterson for child abuse, The Woodlands, 2014

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If indeed he does play on Sunday, you know what I'd like to see? Everyone in the stadium armed with "switches," shaking them in the air every time he takes the field.

I can dream.

Actually I would like to see him beaten into the ground. This is obviously the only language he understands. Where is the outrage from everyone here?
 
  • #123
What is really surprising to me is the lack of interest in this case.
 
  • #124
Actually I would like to see him beaten into the ground. This is obviously the only language he understands. Where is the outrage from everyone here?

I'm here and beyond furious!

And I'm very very sad that people cling to their own ignorance so stubbornly.


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  • #125
The fans are sickening and the vikings are sickening.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
  • #126
What is surprising to me is the fans that wore his jersey to the game.

And the lack of interest in a child being hurt.

So I guess he did not upset community standards.

Good message . ,
 
  • #127
The fans are sickening and the vikings are sickening.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Yep.

Wonder if Peterson would have been reinstated today if the Vikings had won big yesterday instead of having their butts handed to them?
 
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  • #131
This man is going to get away with savagely whipping his four year old little boy. In article after article, in the comments sections, people are vociferously defending the right to use corporal punishment on small children. And although the majority will say, "Well, Adrian Peterson went a bit too far.", the scary thing is they are there, commenting on an article about child abuse, not by expressing horror, but by angrily defending their right to beat their children. That speaks volumes.

AP will get away with this. Even a GJ failed to indict. Why? Because people are so threatened by criticism of corporal punishment that they will fail to react to even the worst of it. Corporal punishment of children cannot be criticized because they are scared that their own use of it will be criticized. Because deep down in their hearts, they know it's wrong. And they fear being called a bad parent.

Well, I do not think a parent who has given a smack to their kid's rear end now and then is an evil parent or a bad person. It is what they know and what is instinctual to many due to how he or she was raised. I disagree with hitting in any form, but I can't say those who have smacked their kid on occasion are bad parents (and BTW, it would be untrue for me to say that I myself have never resorted to a smack or a grab or had the urge to do it myself in my lifetime. The difference is I know that it was wrong. I firmly believe it is a damaging form of discipline and I would never do it again with any child).

But IMO, we have to evolve as a society away from the belief that a tiny child's parent, their first role model, the very person they depend on for love, safety, security and protection, a person who outweighs them by almost triple in some cases, is employing reasonable discipline when they loom over that tiny child and strike them.

And the conversation is important because even though people shout that a small spanking is vastly different than leaving bruises and cuts and bleeding whip marks, AP is going to get away with this because the vast a majority of spanking parents who may serve as jurors or judges, will not allow the government to tell anyone how to raise their child. They will not allow anyone to encroach that sacred right to inflict physical pain on one's own offspring as a means of "teaching". They will not allow any criticism to bleed into what they, in their secret heart of hearts are ashamed that they do, behind closed doors, to their trusting, vulnerable children.

Adrian Peterson "went a little too far". Adrian Peterson has a right to discipline his child in the way he sees fit. Adrian Peterson "used his judgment as a loving parent" as his attorney so artfully and intelligently stated. Adrian Peterson is simply trying to keep his child from going to prison. Adrian Peterson could be anyone.

That's the mindset of the public and that's why he's not going to pay for this nor learn from it enough to stop it. And let me tell you that his confident statements about why he did it and how he feels about it, his unapologetic candor, that's going to drive the point home - He could be any "loving parent" and no one's going to tell me I'm a bad one.

We have not evolved.

Finally, let's be frank about this. Corporal punishment is a major part of black culture in America. Huge. Yet one in three black male children can expect to be incarcerated at some point, in some form during their lifetimes. So "whuppins'", they really work, right? We have to start to realize, all Americans, the absolute illogic in the belief that beating a child, hitting them, will save them from a bad life and help them to grow to be a good, responsible person. The populations in our prisons, black, white, whatever, prove that is untrue.

(P.S., I am very aware that the reason for the vast discrepancy in the numbers of people of color versus whites in prisons is due to a host of complex factors. That is not the point).
 
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  • #133
I posted this in the wrong thread. I meant to post it here, so I'm reposting it:

This man is going to get away with savagely whipping his four year old little boy. In article after article, in the comments sections, people are vociferously defending the right to use corporal punishment on small children. And although the majority will say, "Well, Adrian Peterson went a bit too far.", the scary thing is they are there, commenting on an article about child abuse, not by expressing horror, but by angrily defending their right to beat their children. That speaks volumes.

AP will get away with this. Even a GJ failed to indict. Why? Because people are so threatened by criticism of corporal punishment that they will fail to react to even the worst of it. Corporal punishment of children cannot be criticized because they are scared that their own use of it will be criticized. Because deep down in their hearts, they know it's wrong. And they fear being called a bad parent.

Well, I do not think a parent who has given a smack to their kid's rear end now and then is an evil parent or a bad person. It is what they know and what is instinctual to many due to how he or she was raised. I disagree with hitting in any form, but I can't say those who have smacked their kid on occasion are bad parents (and BTW, it would be untrue for me to say that I myself have never resorted to a smack or a grab or had the urge to do it myself in my lifetime. The difference is I know that it was wrong. I firmly believe it is a damaging form of discipline and I would never do it again with any child).

But IMO, we have to evolve as a society away from the belief that a tiny child's parent, their first role model, the very person they depend on for love, safety, security and protection, a person who outweighs them by almost triple in some cases, is employing reasonable discipline when they loom over that tiny child and strike them.

And the conversation is important because even though people shout that a small spanking is vastly different than leaving bruises and cuts and bleeding whip marks, AP is going to get away with this because the vast a majority of spanking parents who may serve as jurors or judges, will not allow the government to tell anyone how to raise their child. They will not allow anyone to encroach that sacred right to inflict physical pain on one's own offspring as a means of "teaching". They will not allow any criticism to bleed into what they, in their secret heart of hearts are ashamed that they do, behind closed doors, to their trusting, vulnerable children.

Adrian Peterson "went a little too far". Adrian Peterson has a right to discipline his child in the way he sees fit. Adrian Peterson "used his judgment as a loving parent" as his attorney so artfully and intelligently stated. Adrian Peterson is simply trying to keep his child from going to prison. Adrian Peterson could be anyone.

That's the mindset of the public and that's why he's not going to pay for this nor learn from it enough to stop it. And let me tell you that his confident statements about why he did it and how he feels about it, his unapologetic candor, that's going to drive the point home - He could be any "loving parent" and no one's going to tell me I'm a bad one.

We have not evolved.

Finally, let's be frank about this. Corporal punishment is a major part of black culture in America. Huge. Yet one in three black male children can expect to be incarcerated at some point, in some form during their lifetimes. So "whuppins'", they really work, right? We have to start to realize, all Americans, the absolute illogic in the belief that beating a child, hitting them, will save them from a bad life and help them to grow to be a good, responsible person. The populations in our prisons, black, white, whatever, prove that is untrue.

(P.S., I am very aware that the reason for the vast discrepancy in the numbers of people of color versus whites in prisons is due to a host of complex factors. That is not the point).
 
  • #134
Told ya!
Kids do not matter.

To bad that there wasn't a video....maybe seeing it would "move" people more ?

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There have been a few videos released of kids getting whipped by their parents. Same thing. People state that the kid isn't really being hurt and it's reasonable discipline.

We have a long way to go.
 
  • #135
I don't know of any state that allows 4 yos to be beaten until the skin is split and bleeding.

I am not personally saying this is okay, just explaining legally while AP may get off. State laws confirm the right of parents to inflict physical punishment on their children and legal provisions against violence and abuse are not interpreted as prohibiting all corporal punishment in childrearing.

My guess is that AP will go to counseling and pay a fine, but IMO he is not going to be exiled. The Vikes just let him back, and that, in itself, is sending a message. No comment yet from R Goodell.
 
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If indeed he does play on Sunday, you know what I'd like to see? Everyone in the stadium armed with "switches," shaking them in the air every time he takes the field.

I can dream.

You know what I'd like to see? For all the people that believe what this man was wrong to remember that Football
is a game, and REFUSE TO WATCH ANY TELEVISED FOOTBALL OR BUY TICKETS TO ANY LIVE GAMES UNTIL THIS 🤬🤬🤬 IS TERMINATED.

You want the NFL's attention? That is the one and only thing that will get it. As long as they are selling tickets and pulling in big TV audiences, they will continue to give lip service to caring about domestic violence and then do as little as they feel they can get away with.

Boycott the NFL. Period. Think it won't work? Think again. Any of you Country Music fans remember a little group called the "Dixie Chicks"? They were the hottest ticket in Country Music in decades and almost universally adored.
Then they made one comment against George Bush while on stage in England, and they were done. Done. Mind you I didn't approve of the way they were treated, and personally agreed with their comment, but their careers were, and are, toast.

It can be done. Someone has to get through to these boneheads that domestic violence against women is unacceptable, and is certainly unacceptable against an innocent child.

We are not talking about a dad swatting a childs butt with his open hand here. Yes, I know many people will argue there is not difference, but IMO there is. I didn't hit my kids and my husband would have cut off his arm before he would raise it to his kids, but my own mother swatted my butt a few times in my life. It happens, but that is not what we are talking about here. Not by a longshot.
 
  • #138
Hi everyone,

Just wanted to share my thoughts on this topic. I feel that Adrian Peterson was NOT *just* disciplining his son - he was taking his own frustration/anger out ON his son. He was probably getting frustrated with the kids fighting with each other, he let his anger take control of him, and he TOOK OUT his anger on that little boy.

I feel that when someone beats a child, it is usually the adult who cannot control themselves, and they take out their frustration on the child. Perhaps the adult has things going on in their life at the time that is causing them stress - other things independent of the child (I think usually this is the case). Or perhaps they just get angry at whatever is going on in the moment.

I know this from my own experience, that whenever I get very angry with my children, to the point where I want to spank them or hit them, it's usually because I am already stressed out about some other thing or another. So my patience for dealing with them is low at that point.If I'm not in a poor mindframe already, I don't get over-heated.

Now, my worst form of spanking/hitting is much, much milder than what Adrian did. And also I am not a 6'1, however many pound muscular football player. So I can imagine how much bigger and stronger people would be able to get carried away (taking out their own frustrations), and inflict great damage on a child, which is what happened in this case.

But if I can catch myself, and catch my anger, and REALIZE that my hitting my child is just me taking out my own frustrations on a defenseless child, then other people can too. So it's not an excuse. We are adults and we have the ability to realize the root causes and also the consequences and effects of our actions.

JMO.
 
  • #139
This absolutely disgusts me. I was pizzed when (I think) it was Charles Barkley defending this 🤬🤬🤬 yesterday, saying that all southern parents beat their kids. What a way to teach your little kid respect....by beating him with a switch and then you can wonder why he cowers from you when you are near. 🤬🤬🤬!

And the cycle of abuse continues. Barkley's an 🤬🤬🤬. Reminds me of those who tried to justify dog fighting (Michael Vick) because it was part of the 'black' culture.
 
  • #140
Gitana,
It is my understanding that it is not true that a grand jury failed to indict. Although the initial reports were that the first grand jury did not and the second one did, the district attorney denied this, saying there was only one grand jury.
Just FYI. :seeya:
 

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