GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #13

[Midwestmama78]

I've known meth users that were overweight and stayed overweight. He could have just started in the last few months it can take up to a year to show signs of meth abuse.
I had a few male model types that used meth recreationally and had perfect skin, hair and teeth. I never would have known.
You can smoke meth or put up your bum. There wouldn't be any other paraphernalia needed.
http://www.drugs.com/cg/methamphetamine-abuse.html

Well, this would fit with TH's apparent anal fixation.

bbm

 

[matou]

He seemed very desperate for what he wanted. From his fb, it seems that it was happening right at home or in his car (smoking dope). I wonder if he was given an ultimatum and that led to him covertly doing whatever it took to get his 420. I think he was leaving the house late at night and returning before morning. Also, what about Hydrocodone/Oxycodone use based on his "doned out" fb post?

 

[floridamomma]

The lack of drug is interesting. Some people said the toilet paper tubes could be used for smoking.

I do not want to ask hubby to experiment. Seems like the tubes are too small for sex purposes?

lololol.... maybe he had a teeny weenie.

 

[skibaboo]

http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/synthetic-drugs.html

This on Spice.

Spice was purported to be a legal replacement for cannabis and was often sold as incense in head shops. Instructions for use specifically state that the product was not for human consumption but that fooled no one. Spice, also known as K2, is composed of one or more chemicals sprayed onto herbal material. These chemicals are known only as HU-210, JWH-018 or JWH-073, among others.

Besides being legal in the US until 2012, Spice would not show up on many existing drug tests in the early days of its distribution. It found popularity among some members of the military, but this was short lived. In 2011, more than 1,500 sailors were relieved of duty after being found to be using Spice. The military had to scramble to update drug tests and institute drug abuse monitoring programs in part due to the internal crisis created by Spice abuse.

Spice was found to cause anxiety, hallucinations, psychosis and paranoia in some users. Several deaths were associated with Spice, often because of paranoia or violence triggered by use of the drug. But lack of drug tests for Spice in the early days of its distribution made accurate reporting on resulting deaths impossible.

OK, I'm gonna say it. I used to smoke spice, mixed with tobacco. I had my reasons, medical ones. I smoked it for about 3-4 years before it was made illegal to buy here. Spice is known as a term for synthetic cannabis but really spice is a brand name, not sure about K2 cos I had never heard of it before. Spice Silver, Spice Gold and Spice Platinum are the names.

I had no adverse side effects whilst smoking it, it helped my anxiety whilst I smoked it, but the anxiety was worse when I stopped. I didn't smoke it to help anxiety, I smoked it because someone told me how pot was being found to help crohns disease, but of course that is illegal. I looked into it and came across this spice. I didn't smoke a lot, and never smoked it during the day. Just in the evening to help the nausea and my appetite. I honestly can't see how smoking a lot of it would make you do anything but struggle to get off the couch. Not sure about bathsalts because again I don't know what that is. :twocents:

ETA: In my defense I was pretty desperate. I'd been in and out of hospital since I was 12, 60+ surgeries, lost a lot of bowel, including my colon to this disease. 20 years of pred has left me with osteoperosis, the meds they put me on to keep me in remission after my last surgery in 2002 messed with my liver. The sooner the UK goes with MMJ the better IMHO. Good news though, I am still in remission

 

[Backwoods]

In the city by me, a prominent person was busted for having sex with a 16 year old male he met on Craig's. They were in an outdoor area and I forget if it was LE who caught them or a park personnel o r whatever.

Anyway, money exchanged hands. Among other things.

Prostitution is illegal so no money can be mentioned in an ad.

Are there code words or I wonder how the price is determined? I wonder how much an encounter goes for?

It has crossed my mind -- and I hate to type this -- what "price" someone might offer someone else to procure a child.

 

[floridamomma]

can someone pm me re cl? curiosity is getting to me...

 

[ctkid]

Well, this would fit with TH's apparent anal fixation.

bbm

I thought that also, plus some water applied with a water hose might make it absorb faster.

 

[Midwestmama78]

It has crossed my mind -- and I hate to type this -- what "price" someone might offer someone else to procure a child.

What a horrible thought. Hope that wasn't the case, for little Alanna's sake.

 

[x_files]

I know a big time crystal/meth users, I saw him at a pizza parlor on Sunday, and I said to myself, dang he's getting fatter. And saying that, the guy does have some strange sex thing going on, he has a stripper pole in his bedroom. He would describe different girls that were over as the flavor of the month.
I am not going to say anything about the videos that I hear he was in.

Stereotypically meth-heads usually do get scrawny, bad acne and rotten teeth but that's from years of serious chronic years of using and possible homelessness.
TH did look unhealthy and older than 17 so, in a few years it would take it's toll eventually.
MDA's aka mollies are also a drug to enhance sex and create sex addictions.

 

[sloane7777]

It has crossed my mind -- and I hate to type this -- what "price" someone might offer someone else to procure a child.

Look at poor little Shanyia Davis , appparently not much of a price ! maybe some drugs of choice ugh!

 

[x_files]

I thought that also, plus some water applied with a water hose might make it absorb faster.

It's called "booty bumping." Sorry, it's meth street slang for putting drugs up one's bum.
It's also used during sex.

 

[skibaboo]

I kinda hate to go here, but I had to go put my hand around a TP roll and if that is small, I must have a different view of size.

:floorlaugh: I thought the same, are we missing out or something? :floorlaugh:

 

[Flossie JMO]

drug paraphernalia=drug use by either mother or bf.
Unless grandpa saw a black velvet poster of Jimi Hendrix and jumped to wild conclusions.

I understand and not picking, was grandpa's wife that said it and drug paraphenalia could have been from BF. Just saying.

 

[human]

I kinda hate to go here, but I had to go put my hand around a TP roll and if that is small, I must have a different view of size.

I am thinking up and down in cardboard. Not around.

Any other images we can go to?

 

[x_files]

I understand and not picking, was grandpa's wife that said it and drug paraphanelia could have been from BF. Just saying.

There was another MSM quote that classmates said TH asked if anyone tried LSD/acid yet in 5th grade. He was either around drug use or very curious kid w/o much computer supervision.
I hope he didn't take LSD in 5th grade. yikes.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I've known meth users that were overweight and stayed overweight. He could have just started in the last few months it can take up to a year to show signs of meth abuse.
I had a few male model types that used meth recreationally and had perfect skin, hair and teeth. I never would have known.
You can smoke meth or put up your bum. [\b]There wouldn't be any other paraphernalia needed.
http://www.drugs.com/cg/methamphetamine-abuse.html

Good Lord I had no idea.

 

[x_files]

Good Lord I had no idea.

I am sorry for the horrible visuals and slang. I learned a lot working in bars listening to drunks talk my ear off.
One can 'booty bump" MDA as well. Used in recreational sex use and hook-ups. FYI.

 

[Flutterby80]

There was this kid when I was in 4th/5th/6th grade who my mind went to when I first saw/read about TH. This kid always SEEMED older than his age. He had a dirty mouth for a child, would ask us girls if we wanted to sit on his face at recess all the time. None of us had any clue what the heck he was talking about, but we stayed away from him as much as possible. He also wore rock t-shirts every day, had longish hair, talked about drugs. And he smoked cigarettes. He was a bully in the sense that he called us babies, etc for being shocked by him and avoiding him. I moved after sixth grade, so no idea what ever came of him but I can only imagine. At the age I was then, it never occurred to me that there was probably something very wrong in his home life. I wonder if the teachers ever reached out to his family at all. He seemed angry and worldly to us as kids, but now I can see there was probably more to him than met the eye.

 

[momtective]

I kinda hate to go here, but I had to go put my hand around a TP roll and if that is small, I must have a different view of size.

You my friend, have been deprived. :facepalm:

 

[Flossie JMO]

I am sorry for the horrible visuals and slang. I learned a lot working in bars listening to drunks talk my ear off.

Thanks, sorry tried to bold, did not work. Meth is not something I encountered in my crazy younger days.