GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

[BUF]

IMO, the prosecutor is handling this defensive witness well

 

[Megnut]

Witness doesn't think TH staying up all night playing video games and doing cocaine to stay awake led to any fatigue.

MmmOk.

 

[bajaflash]

Lol if he has adhd and self medicated with cocaine, that actually would put him in a more toned down attitude/manner, in comparison to a non adhd person using it and being ramped up on a stimulant.

Source: my 20s and witnessing its effects.

 

[tlcya]

she took 140 pages of notes. State plans to have her go through her notes. State has put post its all throughout to indicate things they want to delve into with her.

He sent a text to his boss at Outback before leaving: Told his boss to F off because he had extra dishes to wash.

(state plans to call out all the things in her notes that she choose not to put in her report.)

 

[TMich6811]

What the f
How embarrassing

 

[tlcya]

TH said he staged suicide to make his girlfriend mad. That didn't quite make it into her report. State claims his suicide attempts were basically phoned in and not serious attempts.

none of which made it in to her report.

her report says: cognitive distortion caused by extreme depression leading up to the (??) contributed to his already precarious ability to solve problems and deal with stress.

 

[Megnut]

Poor TH powerless over life.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Horner's fetal alcohol diagnosis was also mentioned by the defense. Ryan explained that she believed that Horner has fetal alcohol spectrum disorder as opposed to fetal alcohol disorder.

Ryan also spoke about Horner's inability to cope with and handle stress. She said that although he had problems with his work, his home life, and his relationships that served as stressors, his inability to cope was based in his biology.

She told the jury that she felt Horner's drug use was done "in an effort to modulate his mood and anxiety rather than just wanting to go out and party."

"For example, the cocaine use was because he was sleep-deprived," Ryan said. "He was also using those Bangs, which have like 300 milligrams, very high-potency caffeine. He was using those to stay awake, and of course, to improve his mood because he was very depressed."

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[tlcya]

his reaction to his autism, depression, the drugs was to kidnap Athena Strand.

The precipitator was him panicking because she saw him snorting cocaine.

That is the "point of the spear" in her view.

Oh FFS.

She says in her opinion had Athena not seen him snorting coke none of this would have happened.

 

[Megnut]

Witness standing firm. Athena seeing TH smoking cocaine was the precipitant.

Admits that, with no 'being seen doing cocaine", then there's no catastrophizing.

Bingo.

Didn't happen that way.

 

[tlcya]

he didn't have a problem solving how to get rid of a body did he? No.

He didn't have any problem manipulating the situation to make sure he got the same truck the next day did he? No.

He had no problem solving how to keep access to his crime scene the next day? correct.

GO STATE!!

 

[tlcya]

Did you notice whenever he shows up to the truck stop he is able to manipulate the clerk to give him free cleaning supplies? That wasn't manipulating he just asked.

State: But he did, he told clerk he would kick the poo and vomit out onto the gas station pavement if he didn't right? Well yes.

 

[Megnut]

The hour battering Athena was his difficulty problem solving????????

 

[tlcya]

notes highlight in orange with upward arrow. indicating his Cocaine use went up two weeks before. then she noted "not acc" meaning not accurate. she can't recall why she wrote that wasn't accurate.

her report stated he hadn't used cocaine in months before the murder but he used that day because he was so fatigued

 

[tlcya]

the coke he used that night he found at home, already had it, but hadn't used in over a month

because every cokehead I have ever known (and I have known quite a few having lived the 80s and 90s) always loses track of their cocaine and finds it months later

 

[BUF]

More and more “I don’t remember” and “I don’t know” as the prosecutor is going through her notes and her report

 

[Megnut]

Hey, Doctor, what if the precipitating event was sexual frustration which he planned to resolve by stealing a little girl he could dominate, overpower and violently sexual assault?

What if he did it because he wanted to?

 

[helpfulcharlie]

Can I ask why you think this seems haphazard and unplanned?

Yes. Planned, maybe, but only minutes into the future, without regard to obvious consequence. It seems extraordinarily impulsive. How do you "plan" something like this in such a way that you're so obviously going to be the prime suspect and so obviously going to be captured?

Maybe he just has a broken "consequences" circuit. You could argue that he was aware of the 40 hour recording limitation and egotistically thought he wouldn't be a suspect until that time expired, but given his google searches it doesn't seem like his awareness was that deep.

No, I really think this wasn't planned more than ten minutes in advance. I feel like it was an impulse. Maybe the impulse had been simmering for quite some time, but a fourth-grader could have planned this crime better than he executed it.

At least that's how I see it.

 

[Megnut]

More and more “I don’t remember” and “I don’t know” as the prosecutor is going through her notes and her report

Her university should mail that check back.

 

[tlcya]

antisocial personality disorder. Impulsive behavior.

it wasn't impulsive when he covered the camera an hour the day before. Wasn't impulsive when he covered the camera before approaching Athena's home right? That is planning.

Witness says he only covered the camera because he was using cocaine and weed in the truck. She admits this is an assumption on her part.