TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #3

[JosieMae]

Considering that the killer's vehicle was tracked after the murder on various cameras before disappearing, it just seems to defy the odds that the license plate was never seen.

 

[vls12345]

I know LE were not able to track the truck via cameras after a certain point.

Since the truck drove by at 2am also, was that footage reviewed? If so, where did the truck go after the 2am drive-by?

MOO.

 

[Frankeeeh]

Hello fellow sleuths, new here


So this case i rather fascinating and show's how cold people can be,

We can all agree that this is individual must be caught and be brought to justice.

A few things i have question me,

The suspect obviously had knowledge of the camera's and we can see that duo to the actions they made and why they have not been identified, he knew Sergio was leaving around 06:48 the exact the same point when he made the decision to turn into a other street so there is a certain knowledge and we can discuss if this information was well known but it seems to me this individual had somewhat insider information or staked out the house and i am no expert on professional hits but this take a significant amount of time to know someone there pattern and you do not get that just from 2 times watching a house.
If he did a thorough check they where aware of camera's, so what if Liz was not setting up a garage sale ? It's almost like they had access to camera's and saw every move the Barazza's made and acted through that (I know crazy theory but it's this is extremely timely planning that causes me to say this ) We could all agree that the window of opportunity if extremely tight....

I have been watching the video over and over again and i think it's a long coat or jacket the suspect is wearing as you can see him pulling the gun out of it and Liz gets startled and moves back as a human reaction (duo to Liz saying good morning and IMO the perp says garage sale where the answers "Yup") There has to be logic in the action in the suspect being at the exact same time as Liz is outside alone setting up and it reeks like someone gave the suspect information of the actions at that house but obviously i could be wrong.
As we know the Nissan Frontier was seen at 02:00 AM in the suggestion that he was scouting but if this where to be true and unless we do not have all the camera footage how come that same camera did not see the car leave? we have camera footage of different commercial camera's but gets lost in a area that has no camera angles.... I think he turned around because he was somewhat knowledgeable for his escape route and made that turn and went back to Liz her house.

Recording
I hear Liz say, "Good Morning, Yup, and Sure" Like the perp was asking her something and i doe believe he was asking garage sale where Liz reacted upon, although the last part is somewhat muffled there are certain things you here from i got you b*tch to it doesn't matter but i can hear distinct masculine voice and i think the suspect was somewhat mistaken on the fact that the NEST doorbell did recording or thought it would not have picked up his voice. IMO i think that he asked Liz that question to keep her in place, he also said something else and i cannot make out what it is but Liz reacts "Yup" and they seem to handover something to each other but we cannot be sure as LE did not make that public although can could be a huge lead for us loving sleuths to help.

 

[arielilane]

• 01/25/2019 = Friday
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• Early Morning [Approximately 02:00 AM] Black Nissan Frontier observed on neighborhood cameras driving by Liz’s house.
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• Early Morning [06:08:15 AM] Liz drives to the local Starbucks to get a coffee.
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• Early Morning [06:16:05 AM] Liz arrives home to begin setting up for Garage Sale (VIDEO).
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• Early Morning [06:17:00 - 6:47:00 AM] Liz and Sergio start arranging items outside on the driveway.
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• Early Morning [06:47:50 AM] The Nissan Frontier arrives and pulls into the neighborhood Princeton Place Drive from Kuykendahl Road and then drives into the Goddard School parking lot.
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• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] The Nissan Frontier leaves the Goddard School parking lot to conceal on a different street.
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• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] Sergio leaves the property to go to work, in a white panel van.
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• Early Morning [06:51:40 AM] The Nissan Frontier comes back into view and heads towards the Barraza home.
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• Early Morning [06:52:12 AM] The murderer does a 3-point turn on Cedar Walk, parks behind Liz’s car, and then exits walking towards the driveway where Liz is still setting up.

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whokilledlizbarraza.com

In viewing the video, the killer is aware of nest cam location. Killer avoids being caught on camera by parking out of view of the cam and killer exists the vehicle out of cam view by running through the yard to get to Liz. IMO

 

[arielilane]

Yikes, someone should let them know that the date that shows up in the snippet above (from the link you posted) is incorrect—states murder occurred in 2010.

It is fixed now. Good catch!

 

[MysteryMisfits4Truth]

ADMIN WARNING:
Remember….2 people in the truck is simply a THEORY not established FACT.
The source of this theory is the recently approved YT video by Arrin Stoner linked in this post:, AND in the opening post of this thread.

When we hear from LE that there were 2 people in the suspect’s truck, ONLY THEN may we discuss it as a FACT with a link to substantiate it.
Until then, we can discuss it as ONE person’s OPINION from their ONE approved YT episode.

Please be clear that WHAT you are stating and commenting on is related to SPECULATION/THEORY/OPINION from a single YT episode.
Otherwise other members take it as a fact and that’s how runaway rumors gets started.


THANKS!

Can't thank you enough for posting this! I had heard of this case previously, but watching this video really gave all new layers of angles to look into.
Definitely worth a watch to get a whole picture of the overall circumstances, as well as some theories to mull over amongst the community.
This case is truly baffling for so many reasons.

 

[arielilane]

Links to Press and Media

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As can be seen in the above, A Be on the Lookout, or BOLO, was issued at 07:00am, a short five minutes after the killers truck was last sighted headed East Bound on Cedar Walk at 06:55am. Shortly after the BOLO is issued, at 07:05am, a Deputy radios that he’s traveling south bound on Kuykendhal road and is behind a vehicle matching the BOLO, a black Nissan Truck.

The deputy follows for several minutes, likely waiting for other units to catch up given the suspect is armed, before at 07:10am Deputy George Henson of Precinct 4, stops the Nissan Truck at 6225 FM2920. Then, the officers enter the truck, acquire the occupants details and run them, along with the vehicle VIN, through their database. We are not told of the resulting outcome, and nothing more is said in the public release version.

<modsnip - Medium dot com is not an approved source for Websleuths>

 

[arielilane]

NEWS: Episode Air date October 30, 2022
We just heard from the Executive Producer Dana that the episode is tentatively scheduled to air on October 30, 2022 on Investigation Discovery. A day later, it also becomes available on Amazon Prime for streaming on "On The Case With Paula Zahn"/ Amazon Prime.
A few days before the airing they do release a short trailer of the episode on Paula' Zahn's Facebook page. Please look out for that too. Links to Press and Media

 

[SnowAngels]

Links to Press and Media

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whokilledlizbarraza.com

As can be seen in the above, A Be on the Lookout, or BOLO, was issued at 07:00am, a short five minutes after the killers truck was last sighted headed East Bound on Cedar Walk at 06:55am. Shortly after the BOLO is issued, at 07:05am, a Deputy radios that he’s traveling south bound on Kuykendhal road and is behind a vehicle matching the BOLO, a black Nissan Truck.

The deputy follows for several minutes, likely waiting for other units to catch up given the suspect is armed, before at 07:10am Deputy George Henson of Precinct 4, stops the Nissan Truck at 6225 FM2920. Then, the officers enter the truck, acquire the occupants details and run them, along with the vehicle VIN, through their database. We are not told of the resulting outcome, and nothing more is said in the public release version.

Elizabeth Barraza - Four Shots on Friday!

The senseless murder of Elizabeth “Liz” Barraza.

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This is maddening. So cops stopped them, got details, don’t the police have a record of this happening? So….shouldn’t they know who was in the truck? I don’t understand why this is still a mystery. Police stopped the vehicle and spoke to the occupants! I am certain they have a license plate number at a minimum!!

 

[MachinaCollecta]

Links to Press and Media

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whokilledlizbarraza.com

As can be seen in the above, A Be on the Lookout, or BOLO, was issued at 07:00am, a short five minutes after the killers truck was last sighted headed East Bound on Cedar Walk at 06:55am. Shortly after the BOLO is issued, at 07:05am, a Deputy radios that he’s traveling south bound on Kuykendhal road and is behind a vehicle matching the BOLO, a black Nissan Truck.

The deputy follows for several minutes, likely waiting for other units to catch up given the suspect is armed, before at 07:10am Deputy George Henson of Precinct 4, stops the Nissan Truck at 6225 FM2920. Then, the officers enter the truck, acquire the occupants details and run them, along with the vehicle VIN, through their database. We are not told of the resulting outcome, and nothing more is said in the public release version.

Elizabeth Barraza - Four Shots on Friday!

The senseless murder of Elizabeth “Liz” Barraza.

medium.com

Wow that’s interesting! I wonder if it was the wrong vehicle, just so happened to be the same make? Stranger things have happened.

 

[wary]

Wow that’s interesting! I wonder if it was the wrong vehicle, just so happened to be the same make? Stranger things have happened.

That sounds extremely believable—and actually, nothing at all strange about two black Nissan pickups being on the road.

MOO

 

[SnowAngels]

That sounds extremely believable—and actually, nothing at all strange about two black Nissan pickups being on the road.

MOO

From what I recall reading, the exact make and model of this truck is not common. I might try to find a link…but I think because of that, this was very likely the same truck. Odds are too great.

 

[SnowAngels]

Edit: After some more thought and careful reading, I can see how pulling any black Nissan truck over is much more generic and less likely to be an exact match for the make and modal. So…I’m probably off in my connect the dots here…sigh.

 

[MachinaCollecta]

Edit: After some more thought and careful reading, I can see how pulling any black Nissan truck over is much more generic and less likely to be an exact match for the make and modal. So…I’m probably off in my connect the dots here…sigh.

I agree that the odds would be stacked in favour of it likely being the same truck, but I just can’t imagine that they pulled over the one that may have contained the apparent perp and came away with nothing to tell the public. Unless they’re keeping their cards close to their chest on whoever was in there and the information they obtained if it IS the same truck.

 

[Curiousobserver]

I think if LE pulled over a black truck and initially thought for whatever reason it was not the right truck, since that time they have certainly gone back a number of times and re-looked at the occupants/owners of that truck very carefully.


I agree it's quite a coincidence but I think if there were any linkage to EB for those occupants it would have been uncovered by now.

 

[MimosaMornings]

A black full size Chevy or Ford truck would be common. (Silverado or Lone Star edition) Next would be a Dodge.
Less common - Nissan Frontier and Honda Ridgeline.
The bigger the truck the better. It’s a Texas thing.
Dominant color - white. Black/gray/silver next most popular. A lot of fleet vehicles are white.
JMO

 

[Cryptic]

Something that bothers me about the outfit/costume is Liz's apparent lack of reaction to it. From what I can make out, she doesn't comment on it, and even though she was into cosplay herself, I would have expected some sort of reaction to a stranger turning up to her garage sale at 6am in full costume. That bit just raised some questions for me.

The approaching assailant might not be in full costume. Rather, they might have been wearing components of a costume.

As for wearing components of a costume.....

Years ago, I knew members of another cosplay "world" (SCA, which blends historical medieval with Lord of the Rings with where ever the participant's imagination went. Very unlike 501 legion's costume accuracy).

The member of the group were crafty in that they made alot of their own gear. It was not uncommon for them to wear partial costume around campus. For example, "elfin" boots with jeans, a cloak in the fall, Three Musketeers shirts, and an endless variety of crystal type jewelry.

Getting to the point.....

In the victim's hobby interest or sub culture, it might not be very unusual for fellow cosplayers to go around in partial costume. Likewise, such a partially costumed person showing up at another coplayers garage sale at 6:00 am in hopes of being the first to examine any cool cosplay gear for sale might not be unusual either.

As a result, the victim does not show a physical reaction, nor does she immediately comment on the costume elements worn by the approaching person?

 

[stmarysmead]

Was the garage sale just a coincidence? Would the murder have taken place that day without it? I don’t think so.

The killer appears very familiar with the doorbell camera, as others have noted before. He psrks, walks, and positions himself pretty much out if view.

IMO, he also seems to know that Liz will be there that morning, and he seems to wait until S. Is gone. So what would he have done if there had been no garage sale? Evenwith the dusguise, we can see from the video of Liz returning from the coffee run…any approach to the door would have given pretty good shots of the killer. I don’t think this meticulous killer would have risked that. He would also need to ring a doorbell and wait for her to answer, all upping the chance of neighbors seeing this jndividyal and/or his car/license plate.

My guess is that somehow they learned of the garage sale and confirmed when they saw signs st the 2AM driveby.

Another wild thought of mine. Liz was very talented at making these costumes…she even made shoes she never got to wear. Sometimes i wonder if this sloppy costume and wig was making fun of the cosplay group…

 

[fridaybaker]

Stmarysmead: YES. I've been mulling this thing over and I've never been convinced that it was a StarWars fan. However, from what I can see in the video, it does look like someone tried to look like Princess L. -whatever her name is. (Not a SW fan here.) Now I CAN see someone who hated Liz dressing like PL, sort of, in an offhand, limited-effort way, as a way to mock her. If so, that would tell me that a woman is behind it, although I've always thought of the killer as a man. Hmmm.

 

[SnowAngels]

Stmarysmead: YES. I've been mulling this thing over and I've never been convinced that it was a StarWars fan. However, from what I can see in the video, it does look like someone tried to look like Princess L. -whatever her name is. (Not a SW fan here.) Now I CAN see someone who hated Liz dressing like PL, sort of, in an offhand, limited-effort way, as a way to mock her. If so, that would tell me that a woman is behind it, although I've always thought of the killer as a man. Hmmm.

The person in the passenger seat could be the instigator and she could be a woman…