TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #5

[morf13]

To be clear, not saying LE didn't do their job. Only saying triple/double looks may be necessary. Go back to the friends, best friend of Liz Barraza and reinterview or re-review those interviews. Re check Liz’s colleagues’ interviews and alibis. The best friend or a close friend is going to know more about Liz and what was going on in her life prior to the senseless brutal killing than most anyone, maybe including S. Moo

To me, this is clearly someone that knew Liz's husband Sergio would be leaving that morning. Minutes before Sergio leaves, the truck is a short distance away at the Goddard School. 3 minutes after Sergio left, the truck pulled up in front of Liz.
As I recall, I don't think Sergio's route took him by the Goddard school that morning (can anyone verify that?)
So somehow, the killer is waiting for Sergio to leave, and as soon as he does, the killer jumps into action. No way that is a coincidence IMO.

On one hand, I think this killer has to be someone familiar with Liz and/or Sergio, but it's clear, their 'Beef' was with Liz.
Someone that knows Sergio's schedule, and has a beef of some sort with Liz, you think has to have a connection to them, and know them.

On the other hand, I don't think this person knew the area all that well. I think that's why they drove around earlier, hours before the murder getting a layout of the area, looking at the roads.
Some people have theorized that after the shooting, the killer drove back by Liz 2 minutes later just to make sure she was dead. That would be foolish at that time of the morning to drive back by a couple minutes after you thought you just killed someone. People are going to be up getting ready for work. The gunshots are going to draw people's attention, they are going to look out windows, and call police- and that is exactly what happened. I think the more likely scenario is that after they raced off, they either went the wrong way, or got lost and drove back by Liz, not because they wanted to, but because they either didn't realize they were after getting confused, or they only knew a certain way out. I think them not knowing the area is backed up, because they go down into the dead end culde sac and rather than turn around and come back by all the residences, I think the panicked and decided to go off road and get out of that development.

So, is this someone that knows the couple, or at least one of them good enough to know what time Sergio left, but NOT good enough to have been to their home before? Was this person hired by someone to kill Liz?

A couple other things nag at me. One thing is the possibility of a disguise. It's hard for me to see a lot in the video, but I do see a dress/housecoat/robe- something like that, and long hair. Seems like it could be a woman, or man dressed like a woman. But I also thought at one angle as the killer is walking up to Liz, that I can see Breasts on the shooter. Could that too be part of a disguise, it's possible. (Watch that video again closely paying close attention to the killer's upper body front, and see if you see what I see). Disguise, or not, and whether Liz knew the person or not, it does not seem to me like Liz knew them. But then again, maybe the disguise would be enough to fool Liz.

Also, the shooter races up to Liz, walking very fast in my opinion. I know it's been theorized that the killer made small talk about the garage sale as they walked up to Liz, perhaps to put her at ease, but once the killer is up close enough to shoot, they seem to engage in some interaction. I cant see exactly when the gun comes out, but it seems to me at one point Liz jumps back a few steps, but she doesn't run off or scream, and the killer does not start shooting right away, they wait several seconds.

Lastly, it does appear to me that the killer DID hand Liz something. It looks like the shooter reaches out to Liz with their left arm and Liz reaches out with her right. It's been rumored that the killer gave Liz a letter. It does not seem as if the killer picked that letter up if it fell(and if there was actually a letter), so police may have recovered the letter and that could contain some major clues we are not aware of. In fact, maybe something so strong, police have chosen not to release it to the public. You would think they might share it and ask the public to help ID the writing, etc, but they have not. Maybe it was typed and the public could not help with it any way. It could be hold back evidence, and what was in the letter would be something only the actual killer, or anyone else involved may know the contents of. If this person was just there to kill Liz, they could have shot her several seconds earlier. Instead, it seems like they wanted to deliver some kind of message to Liz, not just shoot her


Either way, at the end of the day, I think this person was there to kill Liz. Period. It's not a robbery. It's not a random attack on someone. Someone targeted Liz, and seemed to have a working knowledge of when to strike that morning AND that they would find her outside. That should really help police narrow down potential suspects.
Still think that Truck is the key. Someone owned it, rented it, or borrowed it. (I guess technically they could have stole it but doubt that) Hopefully they are checking in neighboring states too, not just Texas

 

[PawneeDew]

Some people see a flowy robe like a female Star Wars character may wear (think Daisy Riddles character) and some people think they see a wig.

I see a woman around Liz’s age (late 20s- early 30s) who just rolled out of bed dressed to do something like walk the dog, smoke a cigarette, etc.

The robe and ugg style soft boots just scream that to me.

I'm just catching up...I was reading this and the thought came to me that maybe the shooter traveled a ways..Whenever I went on a trip, especially in a car, I always wore 'comfy' clothing. As in sweatpants, t-shirt, etc. Hmmmm

 

[PawneeDew]

I always wonder why some of these idiots think they’re going to get away with murder. But this case shows that sometimes they do get away with it, even on video. Great planning or just good luck?

Good question..I say good planning, in my opinion.

 

[PawneeDew]

I rewatched the video and a few things stood out to me.

The shooter very calmy walked up to Liz.

Liz greets them, but then takes a HUGE step back, and appears to be nervous/frightened/intimidated. (Wonder if Liz saw the gun or knew this person and was already scared)

The shooter has something extended from their left arm. Some people speculate they were handing a note to Liz. But was it a note? Or was this person showing them something on a phone?

Their left arm is extended for a while, and the second Liz leans in a little to see better, that is when she is shot.

I am no video analysis expert but that is what I saw after watching it again a couple of times.

If this analysis has some accuracy, I wonder if the shooter was distracting Liz so she wouldn't run away, had something to confront her with, or both?

I definitely think the killer held something in his/her left hand to distract Liz, in the video, a second afterwards; shoots Liz with their right hand. If I recall correctly...

 

[PawneeDew]

This, right here, is why I believe the killer has to be connected to the husband.

To, to many coincidences in my opinion..

 

[PawneeDew]

I think it comes down to what is most probable. If the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X was spotted at 2 am (or according to Arrin Stoner's video 12:30am) coming down a certain street at that time police are going to check out every house on that street to see about vehicle registration addresses for that vehicle. My guess is police did exactly this and got vehicle registrations for Nissan Frontier Pro-4X trucks for the entire subdivision.

Whether it is the vehicle itself or the license plate or the murderer, one question I would like to ask Elizabeth Barraza's husband would be, "Did she usually go out a little after 6 am to go to Starbucks and return around 6:15 am each day? Was it just that day or was going to Starbucks in the morning at least a 2-3 day a week occurence?" The reason is at the end of Arrin Stoner's video, he has bonus footage. The bonus footage is of Elizabeth Barraza getting into her car and warming it up for about a minute, then leaving to go to Starbucks. Then she returns, parking the car on the street, and going inside the house.

Why did the killer not commit the crime then? It was still dark outside. Whether when she left of when she returned, if the killer had shot her then, they could have gotten in their vehicle and been out of there before Sergio even came outside. Plus, identification would have been very difficult, especially of the killer.

Maybe Sergio might say she went to Starbucks often, but I would have gotten surveillance tapes from inside Starbucks and the drive-thru for 6-7am to see how many times during that week leading up to her murder, she went to Starbucks at approximately the same time as the morning of her murder. My opinion is that the killer was waiting for her to leave for work and expected that to happen at around 6:30 to 7 am. The killer may never have seen her leave to go to Starbucks that morning.

Maybe he needed an alibi? Needed to be seen in a certain place at a certain time?

 

[Sjöberg]

One thing I did not see mentioned in this case, and maybe I missed it, does anyone know about what was done regarding cell phone pings & tracking in the area that morning? Because a person with that truck, who also pinged in that area, would certainly have some explaining to do. Then again, if they were smart, they may have left their cell phone at home. Let's hope they were not smart.

I am very hopeful, that a geo-fence warrant would solve that case. However, I don't think they have even tried to get one (?) and afaik, these can be tricky to get. Something-something-privacy-amendments. So I guess the safe way is waiting for a POI and then looking at their phone data, as opposed to a general geo-fence.

I'd love to have a closer look at the ex'es and their new partners and one-sided love interests etc for the both of them. The killing just feels a lot like a revenge.

 

[morf13]

I definitely think the killer held something in his/her left hand to distract Liz, in the video, a second afterwards; shoots Liz with their right hand. If I recall correctly...

The issue with this is that instead of handing Liz something to distract her, the killer could have just shot her. One they made their way right up to her they were close enough to strike, so no need to really distract

 

[fridaybaker]

I am very hopeful, that a geo-fence warrant would solve that case. However, I don't think they have even tried to get one (?) and afaik, these can be tricky to get. Something-something-privacy-amendments. So I guess the safe way is waiting for a POI and then looking at their phone data, as opposed to a general geo-fence.

I'd love to have a closer look at the ex'es and their new partners and one-sided love interests etc for the both of them. The killing just feels a lot like a revenge.

The problem with the “love interest” angle is that LE can’t find anything on their phones, or digital imprints that would indicate anything like that. That’s highly unusual. It would require such planning. Usually someone sees/meets someone they are attracted to and things unfold from there with at least a text or two before they would be buying burner phones, etc.

Also, if you met someone, either new or “reconnecting”, a very natural thing in this day would be to Google them. Go onto their Facebook page. Etc. I’d think LE would be all over even the slightest hint of an affair/swinging, etc. like white on rice.

 

[Sjöberg]

The problem with the “love interest” angle is that LE can’t find anything on their phones, or digital imprints that would indicate anything like that. That’s highly unusual. It would require such planning. Usually someone sees/meets someone they are attracted to and things unfold from there with at least a text or two before they would be buying burner phones, etc.

Sorry, I was slightly off in my wording - I think it might be for example a very old "broken heart" thing that got escalated due to a trigger that might have nothing to do with Liz and Sergio atm, not that anyone was actively cheating or in contact with them. Many people are very aware of the new partners etc of their or their partners exes from ~10 years ago without having been in direct contact with said exes in these years. Social media usually keeps us well informed about way too many details (like the general location of where they live). I'd be very interested in having a look who might have felt that Liz "stole the love of her life" or "chose S over him" - a new break-up with a next partner, or said partner feeling like "as long as she lives, I cannot fully have him" might push some people to very crazy actions. Especially if they have been silently hating them for several years.

Of course, it might be any other grudge. I just can't shake off the feeling that it was so up and personal, feels so emotional - and old broken hearts are easier to hide than money/career grudges. Though maybe some sort of a pride thing...

If it really was "just" a murder-for-hire, it is indeed a bizarre one. An overweight female (?) with a revolver, getting lost on the streets and needing 4 shots. And that murder-for-hire still needs a motive. There might as well be one, of course, but nothing has really been singled out.

EDIT: what also made me think about online-stalking being a component here (though with a targeted victim, it pretty much always is to some degree), was the Google searches increase (quoted the Mar 31, 2023 post):

Former member WelshChappie provided an explanation in a recent video regarding Elizabeth Barraza name searches.

• Prior to the murder: EB name search remained fairly consistent number of times.
• Right before the murder (approximately from Dec 2018- January 2019): EB name search increases.

So WHO was searching Liz’s name prior to the murder? This is no coincidence, imo.

 

[JnRyan]

I always wonder why some of these idiots think they’re going to get away with murder. But this case shows that sometimes they do get away with it, even on video. Great planning or just good luck?

The previous drive by, possible disguise, use of a revolver, possibly parked waiting for Sergio to leave - good preparation and planning. But even a great plan can go sideways with a stroke of bad luck. I'd say they had a healthy dose of both.

 

[JnRyan]

To me, this is clearly someone that knew Liz's husband Sergio would be leaving that morning. Minutes before Sergio leaves, the truck is a short distance away at the Goddard School. 3 minutes after Sergio left, the truck pulled up in front of Liz.
As I recall, I don't think Sergio's route took him by the Goddard school that morning (can anyone verify that?)

Sergio's route didn't take him past the school? I don't recall hearing his exit route and I guess i just assumed he drove past the school. Right off I don't recall one way or another. It almost seems like the killer had to have seen his vehicle and that would have been the point of parking at the school, but again I don't remember Sergio's route.

 

[Sjöberg]

I don't recall hearing his exit route and I guess i just assumed he drove past the school. Right off I don't recall one way or another.

Yes, I feel that the the only thing that makes sense is that the killer saw Sergios car leaving. But AFAIK, we don't know what the killer in the car was able to see while parked at the school, nor do we know what route Sergio took (though it is likely IMO that he passed in the visual range of that parking lot, as there are not too many roads out of that block). If anyone has more details on that, I'd be thrilled. Or any map with sightings, tbh.

 

[morf13]

Sergio's route didn't take him past the school? I don't recall hearing his exit route and I guess i just assumed he drove past the school. Right off I don't recall one way or another. It almost seems like the killer had to have seen his vehicle and that would have been the point of parking at the school, but again I don't remember Sergio's route.

It was in the details in the video made by Arrin Stoner at the 6:50-7:00 mark. I don't know if he is accurate in his depiction, but he clearly shows Sergio going a different route, NOT towards the Nissan.
I think his video was well done, but Arrin states some things as FACTS when they are actually his OPINION. (Such as the shooter is 100% a man) Nonetheless, it is a good walk thru of the area and details

 

[iamnotagolem]

I'm 90% sure Sergio drove by the school. Here is the timeline Timeline

As far as the killer driving back by the house, I don't think it was to verify Liz was dead (she wasn't), I think the killer specifically went that way for another reason. Let's say there was a second person in the truck, that person was picked up in the concealed location where the truck went after leaving Goddard school.

• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] The Nissan Frontier leaves the Goddard School parking lot to conceal on a different street.

Then after killing Liz, the killer dropped the passenger back off at the concealed location then went back by the house on their way down out of the neighborhood. That way the killer and passenger weren't seen leaving the area at the same time.

JMO

 

[morf13]

One thing I was thinking about, is that IF there is a note in this case that the shooter gave Liz, even if they wore gloves to protect against prints, they may not have realized that their DNA may be on there as well. Something like the MVAC system might be able to recover it

 

[morf13]

It was in the details in the video made by Arrin Stoner at the 6:50-7:00 mark. I don't know if he is accurate in his depiction, but he clearly shows Sergio going a different route, NOT towards the Nissan.
I think his video was well done, but Arrin states some things as FACTS when they are actually his OPINION. (Such as the shooter is 100% a man) Nonetheless, it is a good walk thru of the area and details

Actually the video only shows Sergio driving towards another road but does not fully show his route. Here's a screenshot. I'd actually love to see surveillance footage of Sergio's travel that morning

 

[arielilane]

To me, this is clearly someone that knew Liz's husband Sergio would be leaving that morning. Minutes before Sergio leaves, the truck is a short distance away at the Goddard School. 3 minutes after Sergio left, the truck pulled up in front of Liz.
As I recall, I don't think Sergio's route took him by the Goddard school that morning (can anyone verify that?)
So somehow, the killer is waiting for Sergio to leave, and as soon as he does, the killer jumps into action. No way that is a coincidence IMO.

rsbm

Start timestamp @30:00. In addition, S confirmed being behind the truck but still looking for that video.

01/25/2019 = Friday

• Early Morning [Approximately 02:00 AM] Black Nissan Frontier observed on neighborhood cameras driving by Liz’s house.
• Early Morning [06:08:15 AM] Liz drives to the local Starbucks to get a coffee.
• Early Morning [06:16:05 AM] Liz arrives home to begin setting up for Garage Sale (VIDEO).
• Early Morning [06:17:00 - 6:47:00 AM] Liz and Sergio start arranging items outside on the driveway.
• Early Morning [06:47:50 AM] The Nissan Frontier arrives and pulls into the neighborhood Princeton Place Drive from Kuykendahl Road and then drives into the Goddard School parking lot.
• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] The Nissan Frontier leaves the Goddard School parking lot to conceal on a different street.
• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] Sergio leaves the property to go to work, in a white panel van.
• Early Morning [06:51:40 AM] The Nissan Frontier comes back into view and heads towards the Barraza home.

Timeline

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[arielilane]

Actually the video only shows Sergio driving towards another road but does not fully show his route. Here's a screenshot. I'd actually love to see surveillance footage of Sergio's travel that morning

I too would love to see the footage of his drive out that fateful morning! moo

 

[DeDee]

RE: S departure and the killer's arrival...

One must find a route to Kuykendahl Rd. in order to exit their particular neighborhood as the options are limited. The B location pin is adjacent to Goddard School Parking lot on Prince Pl.


https://www.bing.com/search?q=8623+cedar+walk+dr+tomball+tx+77375&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN

From the either school's parking lot, it is possible to view vehicles that pass along Kuykendahl Rd.

When S leaves home at 6:48, the killer leaves the Goddard School at 6:48. That's uncanny. Is it a coincidence?

• Early Morning [06:47:50 AM] The Nissan Frontier arrives and pulls into the neighborhood Princeton Place Drive from Kuykendahl Road and then drives into the Goddard School parking lot.
• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] The Nissan Frontier leaves the Goddard School parking lot to conceal on a different street.
• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] Sergio leaves the property to go to work, in a white panel van.
• Early Morning [06:51:40 AM] The Nissan Frontier comes back into view and heads towards the Barraza home.