TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

[DTPeke]

I have never seen the caliber of the murder weapon identified. I think it is a LE hold back. I only found one Internet source that indicated that Liz was killed with a .380 revolver, but I don't see anything indicating that website was credible.

I haven't seen any discussion on Websleuths on the recovered bullet weight.

Sgt. Ritchie "there was one round recovered, the round was small to medium-sized caliber possibly a 380." - Paula Zahn Episode: Season 25, Episode 8 "A Fairy Tale Ruined" 2022

He also mentioned the projectiles, on Nancy Grace, "....we do have some of the projectiles...that have been entered into the national ballistics database by the Harris County Institute of Forensic Sciences."

Although, Ritchie does not mention the Texas Rangers they also have a state-of-the-art forensics lab. The Ranger assigned to Liz's investigation is out of the Montgomery County office. That is where they have a big lab specializing in Firearms Analysis which includes identifying: identification of bullets (i.e. caliber, make, and potential list of firearms if no firearm is collected).

It is very interesting what the Rangers are capable of.....​

I wouldn't be surprised if the answers are right there within the first 20/25 pages of the initial investigation. jmo

It would be no surprise to me either or if the answers lie within the phone calls made that morning, or the night before, à la Dan Markel murder.

That always niggled at me when Paula Zahn said no unusual calls....it came from her though not Ritchie. Sometimes what appears as a usual call is the murderer or coconspirator!

I just don't want people working with her to be overlooked. The moment it was found her job at the company a a221222a ²2w2w2²222222awas regular data entry, I think interest to work plummeted. Her being a clerk doesn't negate the change

BTW, I started answering then went to lunch and put my purse on the phone.
What I want to say, just because Liz was not a super-big person in her huge company doesn’t exclude another data entry clerk hating her.

I thought you were being clever and typing like a data entry clerk.

hmm some investigator I am.

I recall Sgt. Ritchie saying he looked to see if there was any type of bad relationships or any type of threats going on and all employees were at work that day. I thought he also said he looked at arrival times and none would have time to commit the murder.

l guess that doesn't exclude co-workers under the premise it is a murder for hire. I agree workplace hostilities can become viscous. IMO, I don't find this as likely as someone closer to Liz and/or Sergio.

I believe both Sergio and Brandon Bevers have a very, very good idea of who killed their wives but just cannot say it out loud for various reasons and/or do not want to acknowledge their (probable) family could have their wife killed.

Sergio did say one name out loud and acknowledge it on national television. He has named at least one family member, his father on Paula Zahn. He said he has questioned his father many times asking if he had any type of involvement. The show ended on that note with Sergio saying he still doesn't talk to his dad to this day.

Sergio never mentioned it again though even when asked if he knows of anyone. He does seem to allude to it in his last interview at the Memorial Bench Ceremony.

Barraza says he fights to maintain his innocence.

I've always kept Liz in my heart, and I always will.

But I've kept going in my life trying to think of somebody who did this to her that might be close to me, that I might be friends with, that I might live with.

I have no idea. I've not been okay with it, but just there's nothing I can do about it. So I've just continued to show that I'm an open book to the police, that I'm here to do whatever I can to, to solve this.

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Sorry guys for the Monster Post. I am always a tad embarrassed when I take up the whole page and I am sure this post will.....Justice for Liz!

 

[DTPeke]

R2-LZ Liz Barraza Memorial Droid

R2-LZ Liz Barraza Memorial Droid. 350 likes. The page for the Building and Promotion of R2-LZ - The Liz Nuelle Barraza Memorial Droid. This is

www.facebook.com

The R2 Memorial Droid for LIZ.

Another example of how much Liz is loved and missed.

Mr. & Mrs. Nuelle are such wonderful people maneuvering this horrific murder with such grace and dignity.

Does anyone know if this was completed? It seems the posts just stopped.

I also thought it was interesting to see what a 3-d printer is capable of.​

******** Justice cannot come soon enough! *******​

 

[DTPeke]

Crime Junkie did a podcast on Liz's cowardly horrific murder (February 2025)

It had some new information I have not heard before (or might have forgotten - 6 years is way 2 long!!).

There were a few things I thought might be a little off, hopefully you'll watch and give your opinions. If not, I'll post what I found new.​

The link below has some extra pictures on the webpage and the audio version of the podcast.

I pasted the picture of the green-belt area of the possible escape route (provided by Liz's parents to CJ).

I also included the YouTube version if you prefer watching. They use some visuals.

MURDERED: Elizabeth Barraza | Crime Junkie Podcast

Elizabeth Barraza was 29 when she was gunned down in her driveway in Tomball, Texas, while setting up for a garage sale. The murder was so calculated and shocking, police were certain they'd catch her killer within hours. But years later, the case is still unsolved. And her family’s hoping that...

crimejunkiepodcast.com

The Nuelles retraced the shooter’s likely exit route, a greenbelt at the end of a cul-de-sac that leads to the main road.
Photo courtesy of Bob & Rosemary Nuelle.

**Justice 4 Liz** hurry up with those subpoenas.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Crime Junkie did a podcast on Liz's cowardly horrific murder (February 2025)

It had some new information I have not heard before (or might have forgotten - 6 years is way 2 long!!).

There were a few things I thought might be a little off, hopefully you'll watch and give your opinions. If not, I'll post what I found new.​

The link below has some extra pictures on the webpage and the audio version of the podcast.

I pasted the picture of the green-belt area of the possible escape route (provided by Liz's parents to CJ).

I also included the YouTube version if you prefer watching. They use some visuals.

MURDERED: Elizabeth Barraza | Crime Junkie Podcast

Elizabeth Barraza was 29 when she was gunned down in her driveway in Tomball, Texas, while setting up for a garage sale. The murder was so calculated and shocking, police were certain they'd catch her killer within hours. But years later, the case is still unsolved. And her family’s hoping that...

crimejunkiepodcast.com

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The Nuelles retraced the shooter’s likely exit route, a greenbelt at the end of a cul-de-sac that leads to the main road.
Photo courtesy of Bob & Rosemary Nuelle.

**Justice 4 Liz** hurry up with those subpoenas.

Its very contradictory- one the one hand the pre-murder drive-by's suggest this person was unfamiliar with the location, on the other hand using this way to escape suggests they knew this had an outlet.

 

[lonewanderer]

Crime Junkie did a podcast on Liz's cowardly horrific murder (February 2025)

It had some new information I have not heard before (or might have forgotten - 6 years is way 2 long!!).

There were a few things I thought might be a little off, hopefully you'll watch and give your opinions. If not, I'll post what I found new.​

The link below has some extra pictures on the webpage and the audio version of the podcast.

I pasted the picture of the green-belt area of the possible escape route (provided by Liz's parents to CJ).

I also included the YouTube version if you prefer watching. They use some visuals.

MURDERED: Elizabeth Barraza | Crime Junkie Podcast

Elizabeth Barraza was 29 when she was gunned down in her driveway in Tomball, Texas, while setting up for a garage sale. The murder was so calculated and shocking, police were certain they'd catch her killer within hours. But years later, the case is still unsolved. And her family’s hoping that...

crimejunkiepodcast.com

View attachment 595977
The Nuelles retraced the shooter’s likely exit route, a greenbelt at the end of a cul-de-sac that leads to the main road.
Photo courtesy of Bob & Rosemary Nuelle.

**Justice 4 Liz** hurry up with those subpoenas.

Its very contradictory- one the one hand the pre-murder drive-by's suggest this person was unfamiliar with the location, on the other hand using this way to escape suggests they knew this had an outlet.

Sounds like a great way to put an off road truck to use….

 

[sunspun]

I'm really surprised more speculation and even investigation isn't done into his father's possible role. Sergio publicly named his father as one possible suspect on a televised interview, and said that he has directly asked his father multiple times whether he was involved, and AFAIK, Sergio says they still do not have any relationship to this day. I think he came short of outright accusing his father, but publicly acknowledged he has suspicions. That alone, imo, should say a lot and makes me wonder if he could be involved.

I'd like to hear more about his father's alibi at the time she was shot. I thought he was reported to be waiting at the Lowes with work crew guys for Sergio to arrive so they could start their workday. But Sergio never made it to Lowes because he got some alert from his home security system or possibly Ring camera. So would he have known for sure that his dad really was at Lowes at the time she was shot? He was supposed to be there with other people though, so they should be able to say. Never heard about any interviews from them or statements about that. Besides, he could be involved without having actually done the shooting himself.

As for motive, I've read about his father's philandering with multiple affairs, even while still married to Sergio's mom, so maybe he's less than stellar moral character, but he doesn't have any criminal history, AFAIK. But there were reports of his financial instability or money woes, specifically the story about a paycheck that bounced, that the father paid Sergio. How murdering Liz would benefit him financially only makes sense in a convoluted, indirect way though. Something about the fact that there was a life insurance policy on Liz, that much is true, and it was in my mind substantial. I've forgotten how much exactly. Sergio the beneficiary. So his father wouldn't directly stand to gain from that, but maybe somehow.

There's also the fact that Sergio has never claimed the life insurance money though. I'm unclear on if he tried to, but was denied because it was still being investigated, or because he himself hasn't ever been cleared, or if he never tried to claim it after all.

Just curious about one thing, did his father know Sergio's current wife prior to Sergio meeting her?

 

[acutename]

Crime Junkie did a podcast on Liz's cowardly horrific murder (February 2025)

It had some new information I have not heard before (or might have forgotten - 6 years is way 2 long!!).

There were a few things I thought might be a little off, hopefully you'll watch and give your opinions. If not, I'll post what I found new.​

The link below has some extra pictures on the webpage and the audio version of the podcast.

I pasted the picture of the green-belt area of the possible escape route (provided by Liz's parents to CJ).

I also included the YouTube version if you prefer watching. They use some visuals.

MURDERED: Elizabeth Barraza | Crime Junkie Podcast

Elizabeth Barraza was 29 when she was gunned down in her driveway in Tomball, Texas, while setting up for a garage sale. The murder was so calculated and shocking, police were certain they'd catch her killer within hours. But years later, the case is still unsolved. And her family’s hoping that...

crimejunkiepodcast.com

View attachment 595977
The Nuelles retraced the shooter’s likely exit route, a greenbelt at the end of a cul-de-sac that leads to the main road.
Photo courtesy of Bob & Rosemary Nuelle.

**Justice 4 Liz** hurry up with those subpoenas.

it would take a certain kind of person to find this- an off roader or a biker/jogger, or a person around
when the development was built or a local.
I guess you could see it on Google maps but you would not know that it was still mowed, clear,
navigable IMO

 

[DTPeke]

It's very contradictory- one the one hand the pre-murder drive-by's suggest this person was unfamiliar with the location, on the other hand using this way to escape suggests they knew this had an outlet.

It does seem contradictory.......BUT

I won't be shocked to learn they have been inside Liz's house before.

I will say, when I finally drove the neighborhood years after, I quickly got disoriented, I had to pull over. A truck pulled right next to me, rolled down his window (and I'm already feeling like a lookey-loo skulker and guilty being there); he was LOST too. I have never seen so many cul-de-sacs in one neighborhood.

This surprised me on Crime Junkie; they are quoting Detective Ritchie as saying the truck was in the neighborhood the night before but did not drive by the Barraza house. Is this new or just to me? I think I mistook Mr. Nuelle speculation as fact.

So now it seems to me at least, the drive that night was for this sole purpose to look at the exit route and possibly check the schedule of the Officer that lived on Sandusky.

Prompted by Mr. Nuelle cancelling coming that evening. They found out she is now going to be ALONE.

Everything else they already know about, Liz's day off, the garage sale, Sergio's earlier than usual schedule, what he drives.... it's simply go time now.

Sounds like a great way to put an off road truck to use….

Yes, it does especially for jumping that curb onto the possibly wet and muddy grass. There are definitely less conspicuous vehicles but they're not 4X wheel drive.

Nerves of steel and very well-planned.

 

[Charlot123]

I'm really surprised more speculation and even investigation isn't done into his father's possible role. Sergio publicly named his father as one possible suspect on a televised interview, and said that he has directly asked his father multiple times whether he was involved, and AFAIK, Sergio says they still do not have any relationship to this day. I think he came short of outright accusing his father, but publicly acknowledged he has suspicions. That alone, imo, should say a lot and makes me wonder if he could be involved.

I'd like to hear more about his father's alibi at the time she was shot. I thought he was reported to be waiting at the Lowes with work crew guys for Sergio to arrive so they could start their workday. But Sergio never made it to Lowes because he got some alert from his home security system or possibly Ring camera. So would he have known for sure that his dad really was at Lowes at the time she was shot? He was supposed to be there with other people though, so they should be able to say. Never heard about any interviews from them or statements about that. Besides, he could be involved without having actually done the shooting himself.

As for motive, I've read about his father's philandering with multiple affairs, even while still married to Sergio's mom, so maybe he's less than stellar moral character, but he doesn't have any criminal history, AFAIK. But there were reports of his financial instability or money woes, specifically the story about a paycheck that bounced, that the father paid Sergio. How murdering Liz would benefit him financially only makes sense in a convoluted, indirect way though. Something about the fact that there was a life insurance policy on Liz, that much is true, and it was in my mind substantial. I've forgotten how much exactly. Sergio the beneficiary. So his father wouldn't directly stand to gain from that, but maybe somehow.

There's also the fact that Sergio has never claimed the life insurance money though. I'm unclear on if he tried to, but was denied because it was still being investigated, or because he himself hasn't ever been cleared, or if he never tried to claim it after all.

Just curious about one thing, did his father know Sergio's current wife prior to Sergio meeting her?

So Sergio has the father who is a philanderer and of such moral qualities that Sergio himself accuses the father of potentially being involved in harming Liz. He also has a much-suffered mother who, character-wise, is probably opposite to the father.

I would like to ask Sergio, does he think that he, himself, took after the father or the mother?

 

[Marzipan]

Does anyone know of an approved source for the pre-crime audio captured at the Barraza home, I believe on their Nest/Ring cam? I’m talking about the audio from early in the morning when Liz and Sergio are getting ready for the yard sale and when, it seems, that he leaves. Would appreciate a reliable, respected, approved source in order to all hear it and be able to discuss.

 

[DTPeke]

I'm really surprised more speculation and even investigation isn't done into his father's possible role. Sergio publicly named his father as one possible suspect on a televised interview, and said that he has directly asked his father multiple times whether he was involved, and AFAIK, Sergio says they still do not have any relationship to this day. I think he came short of outright accusing his father, but publicly acknowledged he has suspicions. That alone, imo, should say a lot and makes me wonder if he could be involved.

Yes, this disappeared as quickly as the dark colored Nissan Frontier, Pro-4X crew cab, with a Pro-4X decal that is kind of green & white in color with what looks like a possible badge under the tailgate.

I still don't know what to think. Makes me wonder too.

Sergio introduces his dad as a possible suspect in 2022 but by 2023 when asked he can't think of anyone.

Can you think of anyone that would want Liz dead? "Honestly, no. It doesn't make sense why anybody would want to hurt her."

I'd like to hear more about his father's alibi at the time she was shot. I thought he was reported to be waiting at the Lowes with work crew guys for Sergio to arrive so they could start their workday. But Sergio never made it to Lowes because he got some alert from his home security system or possibly Ring camera. So would he have known for sure that his dad really was at Lowes at the time she was shot? He was supposed to be there with other people though, so they should be able to say. Never heard about any interviews from them or statements about that. Besides, he could be involved without having actually done the shooting himself.

Sergio did make it to a construction like shop, a Lowes.

Per Sergio verified by his coworkers. - Nancy Grace: Wife Shot Dead Prepping Garage Sale, Was it a Hit? (August 5, 2024)

It sounds like they are together but still a little muddied ???.. - KHOU 11 exclusive: Elizabeth Barraza's husband speaks to Grace White about wife's 2019 death (January 26, 2023)

“…. after I saw the alarm, I was like, hey, I gotta go. I told my coworkers, I told my father, hey, I gotta go, something's going on with Liz. She's not answering her phone because I tried calling her. She didn't answer."

then later in the interview after he's left driving and reviewing the NEST cam, and hears Liz scream and gunshots, he says

"The first person I called was my dad because he was, because I guess cause he just answered, and I was just like, dad, something happened to Liz, something, something happened. There's gunshots and he's like calm down, relax. We don't know what happened. Just get there and we'll be there soon because he was going, I guess, get the guys ready and he eventually came back over to the house."

How murdering Liz would benefit him financially only makes sense in a convoluted, indirect way though. Something about the fact that there was a life insurance policy on Liz, that much is true, and it was in my mind substantial. I've forgotten how much exactly. Sergio the beneficiary. So his father wouldn't directly stand to gain from that, but maybe somehow.

$250,00 with a double indemnity clause (accidental death), $500,000.

Very convoluted. I believe Ritchie theorized financial gain for Oscar and Sergio was talking about a possible confrontation about the paycheck and affairs being the motive.

There's also the fact that Sergio has never claimed the life insurance money though. I'm unclear on if he tried to, but was denied because it was still being investigated, or because he himself hasn't ever been cleared, or if he never tried to claim it after all

Ritchie advised Sergio his recommendation to the insurance company was not to pay it out (True Crime Junkie) and said at the bench memorial Sergio has never asked for the insurance money.

I'm really surprised more speculation and even investigation isn't done into his father's possible role. S

It has to be investigated to the fullest, as does the 501st member named. A defense attorney's dream.

LE has said they looked into dad's financial records, phone, and administered a polygraph, he passed.

AJ Armstrong (Houston case). His brother was introduced as an "alternative" suspect. AJ was ultimately convicted in his 3rd trial (2 hung juries).

Ritchie is right about the obstacles he is against and has faced. I sense he very much wants to tell us the story by his memorial interviews. Hopefully one day soon he will.

 

[DTPeke]

Does anyone know of an approved source for the pre-crime audio captured at the Barraza home, I believe on their Nest/Ring cam? I’m talking about the audio from early in the morning when Liz and Sergio are getting ready for the yard sale and when, it seems, that he leaves. Would appreciate a reliable, respected, approved source in order to all hear it and be able to discuss.

There is only one source I have ever seen. If you can't get it approved, one alternative would be to start an WS group chat for discussion.

sidenote: about time, Barry Morphew arrested today for his wife murder!!!!

 

[Vedder]

There is only one source I have ever seen. If you can't get it approved, one alternative would be to start an WS group chat for discussion.

sidenote: about time, Barry Morphew arrested today for his wife murder!!!!

YESSSSS!

 

[Sjöberg]

Stories like this make me wonder about Liz's prior relationships (even if casual): WI - Man and his girlfriend try to poison 2 of his exes with cyanide - MADISON, May 2025

 

[arielilane]

 

[lonewanderer]

Wrong thread delete please

 

[arielilane]

For those interested, on June 23 and June 30, True Crime Broads (theyre awesome podcasters, jmo) did two additional episodes on Liz Barraza. They did a prior podcast with Liz's parents in August 2024. Well worth a listen.

 

[Charlot123]

I was away from this case because nothing obviously moved, but coming back after a while, remember one phrase by Sergio, “we are a good people living in a good neighborhood”.

And considering that he was right, of course there is a chance of it being some random psycho, but how low is it compared to the people who’d be truly involved?

It still revolves around the people who knew her the best, IMHO. Could be money, could be jealousy, but some “initiation rite at garage sale” is unrealistic.

 

[FromGermany1]

I was away from this case because nothing obviously moved, but coming back after a while, remember one phrase by Sergio, “we are a good people living in a good neighborhood”.

And considering that he was right, of course there is a chance of it being some random psycho, but how low is it compared to the people who’d be truly involved?

It still revolves around the people who knew her the best, IMHO. Could be money, could be jealousy, but some “initiation rite at garage sale” is unrealistic.

Couldn't SB stay in his "good neighborhood"? Why did he turn his life around so quickly after the murder, as if he'd only been waiting to be free? Did the murderer do him a favor? Does SB have to be grateful for his fate for a long time to come?

 

[Bounceycat]

Couldn't SB stay in his "good neighborhood"? Why did he turn his life around so quickly after the murder, as if he'd only been waiting to be free? Did the murderer do him a favor? Does SB have to be grateful for his fate for a long time to come?

Why do you say he turned his life around so quickly? Relevant facts and timeframes, please.