UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #11

[keep-it-real]

Possible but evidence of drugs ( if any )does not mean Evidence of murder .

numerous boyfriends doesnt mean evidence that were the cause of her disappearance either.

My interest right now is in looking at possible links in her private life between people she knew, and any criminal activities that they may have been part of .. then to consider possible ways in which they may have used her willingly or unwillingly in those activities...or she them which could obviously become a catalsyt for her disappearance.

 

[cortina]

we aren't getting any further with the jealous boyfriend theory...so why not have a look. at their criminal activities.....it doesn't mean you have to give up on. your theory...its. just widening the net and we might come up with more potential perps....popejohns secret boyfriend maybe...whatever their motives

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Perhaps we should ask, who would be such a valuable person, that "half of Heworth/half of the NH's customers" didn't help the police to find Claudia's abductor/murderer? Who had to be protected so very effective? Who hadn't deserved it morally (in the eyes of the Heworth Four and other people), to be caught by police?
My first answer would be: a blameless woman.
MOO

 

[keep-it-real]

Perhaps we should ask, who would be such a valuable person, that "half of Heworth/half of the NH's customers" didn't help the police to find Claudia's abductor/murderer? Who had to be protected so very effective? Who hadn't deserved it morally (in the eyes of the Heworth Four and other people), to be caught by police?
My first answer would be: a blameless woman.
MOO

Does the answer actually lie in your question FG... WAS SHE ACTUALLY ABDUCTED..IS SHE ACTUALLY DEAD?

 

[Popejohn3]

Does the answer actually lie in your question FG... WAS SHE ACTUALLY ABDUCTED..IS SHE ACTUALLY DEAD?

Oh if it were so !

 

[Popejohn3]

Oh if it were so !

Oh I hope I’m not misunderstood by far the best outcome would be for her to turn up safe and sound at her mother’s flat !

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Oh I hope I’m not misunderstood by far the best outcome would be for her to turn up safe and sound at her mother’s flat !

I think, it is rather impossible, even if her mother has (had) a feeling, that Claudia might be still alive.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Does the answer actually lie in your question FG... WAS SHE ACTUALLY ABDUCTED..IS SHE ACTUALLY DEAD?

One could doubt, but everything speaks for it and doesn't speak for disappearing of her own, living happily at a holiday destination since 2009. ALTHOUGH I saw some docu about a place, I have forgotten unfortunately. It was like a holiday destination and seen was a woman at something like a restaurant (no guest), who could have been Claudia in her advanced years. The same face, straight hair - in my mind the face is still 100% present. I forgot to write down quickly, which TV docu I saw (probably it has been in the middle of the night; I was verrry fascinated but also lazy).

 

[keep-it-real]

One could doubt, but everything speaks for it and doesn't speak for disappearing of her own, living happily at a holiday destination since 2009. ALTHOUGH I saw some docu about a place, I have forgotten unfortunately. It was like a holiday destination and seen was a woman at something like a restaurant (no guest), who could have been Claudia in her advanced years. The same face, straight hair - in my mind the face is still 100% present. I forgot to write down quickly, which TV docu I saw (probably it has been in the middle of the night; I was verrry fascinated but also lazy).

I would be extremely interested in this programme FG do you remember which year and season you say this programme was screened was it on UK tv, please think hard about what you remember about the programme small details can prove valuable ie did the programme give the viewer however fleeting a visual of the restuarant, large or small, did it show the bar perhaps also the location of the bar within the restuarant, was restuarant kerbside or waterside were there othere restuarants next to it, how were the tables dressed did they have tablecloths/colour etc what did the restaurant seats look like, was the restaurant full or empty, how were the people eating dressed formal or casual? were these peole heavily suntanned, can you remember any signage ,was it day or night, did you notice any vehicles... I cant stress to much to you how important this might be.
Was it a programme solely on Claudia?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

How Police Are Using 'Super Recognizers' Like Me to Track Criminals
How Police Are Using 'Super Recognizers' Like Me to Track Criminals

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I would be extremely interested in this programme FG do you remember which year and season you say this programme was screened was it on UK tv, please think hard about what you remember about the programme small details can prove valuable ie did the programme give the viewer however fleeting a visual of the restuarant, large or small, did it show the bar perhaps also the location of the bar within the restuarant, was restuarant kerbside or waterside were there othere restuarants next to it, how were the tables dressed did they have tablecloths/colour etc what did the restaurant seats look like, was the restaurant full or empty, how were the people eating dressed formal or casual? were these peole heavily suntanned, can you remember any signage ,was it day or night, did you notice any vehicles... I cant stress to much to you how important this might be.
Was it a programme solely on Claudia?

NOT a program re Claudia. Maybe a docu re emigrants in Mallorca or somewhere else. The woman wasn't the main person, but only shown for a few minutes. I only saw her upperbody and I think, she didn't speak.
I don't remember all the things, you are rightful asking about, sorry. Had I watched attentive and normal, I would be able to answer. But unfortunately it wasn't like that really. If I will have an idea sometime, I will post it here, promised!

 

[keep-it-real]

How Police Are Using 'Super Recognizers' Like Me to Track Criminals
How Police Are Using 'Super Recognizers' Like Me to Track Criminals

I know police have been using these recognisers for some in London in the tracking and apprenhension of shoplifters..

 

[keep-it-real]

NOT a program re Claudia. Maybe a docu re emigrants in Mallorca or somewhere else. I don't remember all the things, you are asking about, sorry. Had I watched attentive and normal, I would be able to answer. But unfortunately it wasn't like that really. If I will have an idea sometime, I will post it here, promised!

Thankyou much appreciated FG .. but can you remember wether it was an english programme on english tv?

 

[keep-it-real]

NOT a program re Claudia. Maybe a docu re emigrants in Mallorca or somewhere else. The woman wasn't the main person, but only shown for a few minutes. I only saw her upperbody and I think, she didn't speak.
I don't remember all the things, you are rightful asking about, sorry. Had I watched attentive and normal, I would be able to answer. But unfortunately it wasn't like that really. If I will have an idea sometime, I will post it here, promised!

Excellent ... your a star FG

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Thankyou much appreciated FG .. but can you remember wether it was an english programme on english tv?

No, it was not from an English TV, but German, I think.
There are different programs, which present foreign countries in a nice way, sometimes re emigrants, sometimes nothing to do with emigrants.
The person, who looked like Claudia, wasn't presented as an emigrant - that I know for certain! The woman appeared casually in the picture, I was excited because of the look - and it was over.
ETA: I'm guessing, it might have been during the last 2 months perhaps. Which doesn't say anything about the docu; maybe a repeated docu from years ago. But the person looked like being in her mid forties, not too young, not too old, just Claudia's real age today.

 

[keep-it-real]

No, it was not from an English TV, but German, I think.
There are different programs, which present foreign countries in a nice way, sometimes re emigrants, sometimes nothing to do with emigrants.
The person, who looked like Claudia, wasn't presented as an emigrant - that I know for certain! The woman appeared casually in the picture, I was excited because of the look - and it was over.
ETA: I'm guessing, it might have been during the last 2 months perhaps. Which doesn't say anything about the docu; maybe a repeated docu from years ago. But the person looked like being in her mid forties, not too young, not too old, just Claudia's real age today.

I thought I could possibly do a programme screening search to narrow it down but you have different channels in Germany if i start with docu channels which would be the ones you suggest I start with

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I thought I could possibly do a programme screening search to narrow it down but you have different channels in Germany if i start with docu channels which would be the ones you suggest I start with

Have sent an email and asked for help. Idk, if the person will answer. If she does, I will have some names of docus in German TV.

 

[Popejohn3]

I rewatched Donold Machintry today and Driscoll believes allyman was not local .
Because he was not seen before or after in the area .
And I would have thought the equipment would record over after how many days or weeks ?
He also thinks it “was a meeting that went wrong “.
It blew up out of proportion because very few if any knew what really happened!
People loved her and all wanted to help .
Even the odd woman she upset revealed info she hoped would help the police in finding her.
I honestly believe the NH people and close friends and family when they say they knew nothing !

 

[ArcadeFire]

Thread has gone a bit quiet of late, just like operation cabin. I suppose we can’t keep commenting when nothing new happens...

 

[Popejohn3]

Thread has gone a bit quiet of late, just like operation cabin. I suppose we can’t keep commenting when nothing new happens...

I hope this time round the police have taken me seriously but I do know why it’s harder for them and not just the elapsed time .