UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #13

[keep-it-real]

Good Spot @Tri-Lambda delta and lets hope that LE are watching this thread as they may wish to either do a pond dive or at the least re interview him for his whereabouts in 2009??

But if she did meet her fate in this way:

A. She would have been leaving the house very late for getting to work
B. Somehow her best "Friend" had a knowledge of the accident "Gone before she hit the ground" and to not tell police about this would be classed as withholding evidence would it not?

Perhaps this is a something the police did look at as you say the comment by Jen King could suggest an accident involving a car also I noticed in the Donal McIntyre tv doc Clive Driscoll mentions a possible senario of lads or a lad bundling her into a car.
start at 39.21

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That quite a suped up mini he certainly liked fast cars... I wonder if he knew Claudia?

 

[oudzuid]

Yes those are the vehicles. can you get a rotated view on them. From them from the front and above?

Can someone explain what the photos of vehicles are pointing us in the direction of?

 

[oudzuid]

Perhaps this is a something the police did look at as you say the comment by Jen King could suggest an accident involving a car also I noticed in the Donal McIntyre tv doc Clive Driscoll mentions a possible senario of lads or a lad bundling her into a car.
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That quite a suped up mini he certainly liked fast cars... I wonder if he knew Claudia?

This was OldTommy at Number 62 Heworth Place and he was talking about a much earlier occasion when CL and her mates bundled into a car to head off from the Nags into the city centre as they often did.

 

[oudzuid]

To be honest it was another person who I thought may have been working for Simpsons that took me to that location.
That aside I would be interested to know if any of these lads worked for Simpsons, as when the bus passes the white van parked outside Quartz travel there appears to be someone in the passenger seat.

Is this an airport shuttle bus provided by Simpsons and would their not be people on that bus if they were being taken to the airport?

 

[oudzuid]

Perhaps this is a something the police did look at as you say the comment by Jen King could suggest an accident involving a car also I noticed in the Donal McIntyre tv doc Clive Driscoll mentions a possible senario of lads or a lad bundling her into a car.
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That quite a suped up mini he certainly liked fast cars... I wonder if he knew Claudia?

KIR TLD?

 

[Blonderabbit]

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One question.

 

[Yozzer]

Perhaps this is a something the police did look at as you say the comment by Jen King could suggest an accident involving a car also I noticed in the Donal McIntyre tv doc Clive Driscoll mentions a possible senario of lads or a lad bundling her into a car.
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That quite a suped up mini he certainly liked fast cars... I wonder if he knew Claudia?

Clive Driscoll on Donal Macintyre video 'I feel more likely that this might have been a meeting that has gone wrong' 39m 20.
Donal Macintyre from 41m 40 onwards. 'I believe she left her own home of her own volition for an overnight stay with her lover, a man with a complicated love life like her own.'
Gerard Tubb Sky News 'It would make most sense for Claudia to have left that house on her own accord; she left that house on her own two feet, I'm pretty certain.' 38m 30.

They know a lot more than us.

 

[Blonderabbit]

Clive Driscoll on Donal Macintyre video 'I feel more likely that this might have been a meeting that has gone wrong' 39m 20.
Donal Macintyre from 41m 40 onwards. 'I believe she left her own home of her own volition for an overnight stay with her lover, a man with a complicated love life like her own.'
Gerard Tubb Sky News 'It would make most sense for Claudia to have left that house on her own accord; she left that house on her own two feet, I'm pretty certain.' 38m 30.

They know a lot more than us.

the majority of the evidence points to her leaving home alive and happy

 

[Andyboy]

the majority of the evidence points to her leaving home alive and happy

I haven't seen any evidence of that

 

[keep-it-real]

Clive Driscoll on Donal Macintyre video 'I feel more likely that this might have been a meeting that has gone wrong' 39m 20.
Donal Macintyre from 41m 40 onwards. 'I believe she left her own home of her own volition for an overnight stay with her lover, a man with a complicated love life like her own.'
Gerard Tubb Sky News 'It would make most sense for Claudia to have left that house on her own accord; she left that house on her own two feet, I'm pretty certain.' 38m 30.

They know a lot more than us.

Yes @Yozzer I agree. I respect Gerard Tubb and even more so Clive Driscoll
Clive also goes on to say he didnt rule out the possibilty that someone she knew may have offered her a lift. approx 39.30 in the video
Can I ask your thoughts on when you think she might have left her home on Heworth Rd, and do you think she actually left with someone who was giving her a lift to meet someone else?

 

[Andyboy]

Be more likely and make more sense may or not be correct, but the only definite is she left at some point as she Isn't there now

 

[Yozzer]

Yes @Yozzer I agree. I respect Gerard Tubb and even more so Clive Driscoll
Clive also goes oon to say he didnt rule out the possibilty that someone she knew may have offered her a lift. approx 39.30 in the video
Can I ask your thoughts on when you think she might have left her home on Heworth Rd, and do you think she actually left with someone who was giving her a lift to meet someone else?

I believe she died overnight from 9 onwards and don't think she needed a lift to where she was visiting.
In response to your question, I think CD was referencing Peter L who believes she was picked up on the way to work in the morning by someone she knew. PL has said this in interviews from 2017 onwards. I would suggest CD was politely acknowledging PL's theory because it can't be ruled out (as he states) while preferring the 'meeting that went wrong' theory.

 

[Blonderabbit]

I believe she died overnight from 9 onwards and don't think she needed a lift to where she was visiting. I think CD references Peter L who believes she was picked up on the way to work in the morning by someone she knew. PL has said this in interviews from 2017 onwards. I would suggest CD was politely acknowledging PL's theory because it can't be ruled out (as he states) while preferring the 'meeting that went wrong' theory.

She may have left for an overnight stay at any time beyond 3pm on the 18th - the calls to her mum etc may of been from elsewhere.

 

[Popejohn3]

I believe she died overnight from 9 onwards and don't think she needed a lift to where she was visiting. I think CD references Peter L who believes she was picked up on the way to work in the morning by someone she knew. PL has said this in interviews from 2017 onwards. I would suggest CD was politely acknowledging PL's theory because it can't be ruled out (as he states) while preferring the 'meeting that went wrong' theory.

The meeting that went wrong probably happened in his car ... he was determined to get an answer as to why .... ? He stopped to give her a lift and she simply could not pretend she did not see him
This time she was in the open as opposed when she was safe in her house and ignored him ...

 

[Vixey]

I believe something took place on Wednesday evening, between 8.30 -9.30pm and wonder why Dai worded it as claudia carried out through the back entrance! I believe either back entrance exit, possibly through a property where persons are less visible by cctv imo x

 

[Blonderabbit]

The meeting that went wrong probably happened in his car ... he was determined to get an answer as to why .... ? He stopped to give her a lift and she simply could not pretend she did not see him
This time she was in the open as opposed when she was safe in her house and ignored him ...

"He" who's he?

 

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Father of missing chef Claudia Lawrence dies at 74

Peter Lawrence, campaigner for families of missing people, has died without learning what happened to his daughter

Peter Lawrence, a retired solicitor and campaigner for the families of missing people, died on Thursday in St Leonard’s Hospice in York after a brief illness, his family said in a statement.

His daughter, a 35-year-old chef at the University of York, was reported missing on 19 March 2009 after she did not show up for her shift that morning. Police believe she was murdered, but her body has never been found.

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[Popejohn3]

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