UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #14

[keep-it-real]

Up not in my apologies... and it’s a pic of a what appears to be face that’s apparent as he walks up towards the alley. From morning cctv. The other pic was of another black suv like the one outside her house on Melrosegate. Different pic to the one above. Getting a file size error for some reason.

Does the error message say the pic you are trying to upload is too big LuluR38?
How are you trying to up load from a screenshot or from a copy and paste https?

 

[UKjester]

well.... in the video released at some point - initially thought to be CL walking to work on THURSDAY morning (at the post office) - there was soeone walking towards the camera on the opposite side of the payment shortly after CL walked in the opposite direction - in the same clothing. I seem to recall that this was proven NOT to be C, but I cannot find anything to substantiate either way.

There is also another person in a white/light coloured top and baseball cap who must have walked straight past CL (if it was her).

This video start at 1.52 Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence 'white clothes man' is right at the end.

If anyone can confirm whether anything else was said about this sighting on the Thursday morning - can you please point me in the right direction? Thank you

well that was the first time I had seen the post office footage from Thursday morning. That would suggest it may have been CL? Did she fall or crouch down behind the post box?
Interestingly the silver car (Mercedes) appears again on the weds afternoon behind the fiat punto. I was more interested in the van based on previous posts

 

[UKjester]

are you able to zoom in on the passenger in the first picture?

Has this been covered in earlier posts? I did read that the passenger in that SUV was identified by the same necklace. There was a photo of her leaving a house with the same necklace. I thought I read it in Major Lang’s blog but it wasn’t there so must have been on WS

 

[shadwell]

are you able to zoom in on the passenger in the first picture?

Had a go - though it gets messy pretty quickly. Most of the face has been blurred but looks like a hint of the right eye in the tinted windscreen surround (?)

 

[keep-it-real]

well that was the first time I had seen the post office footage from Thursday morning. That would suggest it may have been CL? Did she fall or crouch down behind the post box?
Interestingly the silver car (Mercedes) appears again on the weds afternoon behind the fiat punto. I was more interested in the van based on previous posts

First of all I thought the person stooped down to pick something up but on repeated viewing I think the person may have been attacked, either way after that a person flees in the direction of the Uni pursued by someone attempting to bring them under their control. Wether that is the same person or there were two people walking together I cannot tell for sure, but I lean to there being two people.
They disappear out of sight but are seen almost immediately coming back towards Melrosegate PO. One of the figures is struggling to keep a hold of the other and as they pass the post box a third person comes to aid the other person to control the figure that had been pursued.
Its a difficult piece of footage to view due to the quality and probable light there also has to be a consideration that like other cctv footage in the case other things in the footage may have had to be ommitted.
Sometimes I feel somethings may appear differently again there may be reasons for that.. thats just my opinion as are any observations I may make.

 

[Nikynoo]

Had a go - though it gets messy pretty quickly. Most of the face has been blurred but looks like a hint of the right eye in the tinted windscreen surround (?)
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Thanks. I think the passenger is male? I was hoping that the lighter patch ner the neckline was jewellery

 

[Nikynoo]

Has this been covered in earlier posts? I did read that the passenger in that SUV was identified by the same necklace. There was a photo of her leaving a house with the same necklace. I thought I read it in Major Lang’s blog but it wasn’t there so must have been on WS

I haven't seen any posts, but I haven't looked, but yes, its the necklace I'm interested in.

 

[Pinkizzy]

First of all I thought the person stooped down to pick something up but on repeated viewing I think the person may have been attacked, either way after that a person flees in the direction of the Uni pursued by someone attempting to bring them under their control. Wether that is the same person or there were two people walking together I cannot tell for sure, but I lean to there being two people.
They disappear out of sight but are seen almost immediately coming back towards Melrosegate PO. One of the figures is struggling to keep a hold of the other and as they pass the post box a third person comes to aid the other person to control the figure that had been pursued.
Its a difficult piece of footage to view due to the quality and probable light there also has to be a consideration that like other cctv footage in the case other things in the footage may have had to be ommitted.
Sometimes I feel somethings may appear differently again there may be reasons for that.. thats just my opinion as are any observations I may make.

Can you upload the footage?

 

[Nikynoo]

well that was the first time I had seen the post office footage from Thursday morning. That would suggest it may have been CL? Did she fall or crouch down behind the post box?
Interestingly the silver car (Mercedes) appears again on the weds afternoon behind the fiat punto. I was more interested in the van based on previous posts

BBM, I am unclear as to what you mean, can you please clarify? Also, the car at the end of the clip - is it the same or similar to the car we have been discussing? at 2.40 Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence

 

[shadwell]

well that was the first time I had seen the post office footage from Thursday morning. That would suggest it may have been CL? Did she fall or crouch down behind the post box?
Interestingly the silver car (Mercedes) appears again on the weds afternoon behind the fiat punto. I was more interested in the van based on previous posts

Same here- though I am a noob on this one and I'm sure it must have been discussed previously. Certainly a similar shape to the silver car in the two segments.

 

[shadwell]

First of all I thought the person stooped down to pick something up but on repeated viewing I think the person may have been attacked, either way after that a person flees in the direction of the Uni pursued by someone attempting to bring them under their control. Wether that is the same person or there were two people walking together I cannot tell for sure, but I lean to there being two people.
They disappear out of sight but are seen almost immediately coming back towards Melrosegate PO. One of the figures is struggling to keep a hold of the other and as they pass the post box a third person comes to aid the other person to control the figure that had been pursued.
Its a difficult piece of footage to view due to the quality and probable light there also has to be a consideration that like other cctv footage in the case other things in the footage may have had to be ommitted.
Sometimes I feel somethings may appear differently again there may be reasons for that.. thats just my opinion as are any observations I may make.

Hmm. Not sure I'm seeing as much action there. It's a shame there's no time stamp - I'm guessing the final early morning segment with the car and figure in white is some time later - much better light and the wheelie bin across the road (also seen in the 18/3/09 afternoon cctv) has gone from the pavement.

I initially see two figures walking South, the first appears to turn right just before disappearing (though may just have carried on and been obscured by bushes), the second bends down briefly as if to pick something up behind the postbox before continuing to the point where the first disappeared. Then cut to the second sequence of person walking back towards camera apparently looking at a phone (though it could be a bag strap across the chest). then cut to third sequence of figure in white (a bit unsteady?) and car passing.

 

[keep-it-real]

Can you upload the footage?

the melrosegate footage starts at approx 1.49.
This video doesnt have a setting to slow the speed of the video down, I think someone did upload it to Youtube that will have a setting to slow the speed down. which will help enormously particulary when viewing the figures returning from the Uni direction.
Last known movements of Claudia Lawrence

 

[LuluR38]

I haven't seen any posts, but I haven't looked, but yes, its the necklace I'm interested in.

It’s glasses clipped on over the top of the t shirt I think not jewellery....

 

[Pinkizzy]

Notice the red car making a U-turn when Claudia approaches the post box

 

[shadwell]

Notice the red car making a U-turn when Claudia approaches the post box

The one coming out of Burlington Avenue?

 

[Popejohn3]

The one coming out of Burlington Avenue?

That’s what I thought, turning right and not a u turn .

 

[Pinkizzy]

The one coming out of Burlington Avenue?

Oh yes, it's turning right

 

[LuluR38]

I was trying to determine if the Wednesday night stills of the SUV showed a orange work coat hung over the drivers seat.

Can anyone equipped with more than an iPhone confirm?

Looks like that to me, like a site safety orange abs likely reflective type top they wear.

 

[Miss Elizabeth]

It’s glasses clipped on over the top of the t shirt I think not jewellery....

Agreed. Do I also see a slight hint of boob (can I say that?)

~E

 

[Vixey]

No, I didn't. What is the relevance re Galloways statement?

He changed the road for suv direction from malton to bolton x