UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #17

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Alleywayman why did he hesitate? Because he didn’t want to be seen is my guess. Not in general but not by Sandy Mac. Footage - you see him come from The front of Claudias - round the corner towards the alley and out of view - he’s walked on the main road so has no problem with being seen. He only hesitates for Sandy Mac - why?
I think he hesitates because he does not want to be seen coming from an ally way it looks more like stalking then !
 
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I think he hesitates because he does not want to be seen coming from an ally way it looks more like stalking then !
He’s not coming from an alleyway - he’s on a pavement in Heworth place!
 
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bbm

..... or the 2 helpers were very quick with their arrival at Claudia's. And in addition very uncareful, actually, if they parked just in front of Claudia's door.
Doesn't make really sense. IMO
Parking in front of Claudia's door conveniently blocks the cctv from over the road though.
 
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Parking in front of Claudia's door conveniently blocks the cctv from over the road though.
It’s a good point but how would they be aware it was there and pointing in that direction? Of course perhaps locksmiths know that kind of stuff. You wonder was she dead before she hit the ground and carried out? Was she forced into a car? Did she voluntarily go taking her rucksack? I think the man seen between the cars has a rip on his elbow which makes me think there may have been a struggle.
 
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It’s a good point but how would they be aware it was there and pointing in that direction? Of course perhaps locksmiths know that kind of stuff. You wonder was she dead before she hit the ground and carried out? Was she forced into a car? Did she voluntarily go taking her rucksack? I think the man seen between the cars has a rip on his elbow which makes me think there may have been a struggle.
I believe the camera installed in front room ? Of the house opposite belonged to a poi ! If the thing was planned wouldn’t they disable it ?
 
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I have a question :
The police sent the allyman clip to experts even abroad . Now did they do the same with bus cctv ?
 
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Process of elimination.

The SUV in the bus is likely to be owned and driven by either DR or PR. On the bus footage a man appears crabbing between the suv and the car in front, he looks to have a ripped sleeve on his jacket - this is unlikely to be Sandy Mac as he’s seen earlier at 7.15pm passing on the alleywayman footage (in a Sandy Mac).

There was a thread earlier in 2020 (on here) talking of the cctv and vandalism at quartz travel - if you go back there and read through the thread you will see that DR normally drinks in the sports bar at The Nags and drives an suv, whilst the brothers drive vans and cars.
 
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I have a question :
The police sent the allyman clip to experts even abroad . Now did they do the same with bus cctv ?
Can anyone help please to keep the mods happy but I cannot find the link stating police sent allywayman clip to experts even abroad ! Thanks
 
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I believe the camera installed in front room ? Of the house opposite belonged to a poi ! If the thing was planned wouldn’t they disable it ?
Not if he didn't live there till after claudia went missing and was still living in heworth place at the time!!
This has been discussed many times now, but anyone can easily verify with a quick check on electoral records, or a quick google of when number 41 was sold.
 
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Process of elimination contd
This is the link to the thread re my earlier post


In my opinion - (so not fact) if it’s SR in the front car and DR in the SUV parking across the pavement - it’s unlikely to be a jealous rage and rather more a planned attack that caught CL out of the blue as just moments earlier she was planning her weekend/Mother’s Day etc. JK was in the Nags working that evening receiving the earlys text without the trademark kiss.
 
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Process of elimination contd
This is the link to the thread re my earlier post


In my opinion - (so not fact) if it’s SR in the front car and DR in the SUV parking across the pavement - it’s unlikely to be a jealous rage and rather more a planned attack that caught CL out of the blue as just moments earlier she was planning her weekend/Mother’s Day etc. JK was in the Nags working that evening receiving the earlys text without the trademark kiss
 
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If it was a planned attack would you park your car( s) right outside ?
 
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If it was a planned attack would you park your car( s) right outside ?
Criminals do - let’s face it - they can say they parked there as they were in the nags for a quiz night.
 
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Alleywayman why did he hesitate? Because he didn’t want to be seen is my guess. Not in general but not by Sandy Mac. Footage - you see him come from The front of Claudias - round the corner towards the alley and out of view - he’s walked on the main road so has no problem with being seen. He only hesitates for Sandy Mac - why?
Are the working together and he doesn't want to be seen with him together. Is one going to her front door and the other hanging back?
 
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DR probably the least explored member of the Nags 4 - what’s known about him? Can we 100% say he had a SuV matching the one seen on the bus footage in March 2009? A mix up about something he said led to his arrest for murdering Claudia - you wonder how that could possibly have happened! Suspect in missing Claudia Lawrence case slams police misunderstanding
 
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DR probably the least explored member of the Nags 4 - what’s known about him? Can we 100% say he had a SuV matching the one seen on the bus footage in March 2009? A mix up about something he said led to his arrest for murdering Claudia - you wonder how that could possibly have happened! Suspect in missing Claudia Lawrence case slams police misunderstanding
Quoting the above Daily mail link the police say the cig butt found in her car could be that of her killer !
Now one has to assume it ( dna) did not match any of the four ?
 
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